21 May 2024 |
Xliff |
How R U btw? |
00:28 |
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I appreciate your willingness to try my software, but for now it works only for Ubuntu |
00:29 |
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I don't have library data on other distributions |
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If you are NOT on ubuntu. Would appreciate the names for the following libs: glib, gio, gobject, pango, gdk and gtk+3 |
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ab5tract |
Xliff: sure, I'll give it a try |
01:21 |
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I'm a long-time Linux user that de-camped to macOS last year |
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gtk is notoriosly unsupported over here, but that's as good a reason to give it a try as any |
01:30 |
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jdv |
www.reddit.com/r/programming/comme..._creators/ |
02:03 |
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perl 6 and raku were created by people of different ages?:) |
02:04 |
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antononcube |
@jdv Yeah, but just different middle ages. |
02:16 |
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Hmm... I can make a better version of that graph in Raku. |
02:20 |
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And an even better one in Mathematica. |
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jdv |
what do you mean about middle ages? |
02:23 |
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antononcube |
Maturity of the creator(s), I guess... And that the average age Raku users is 56. |
02:26 |
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jdv |
the graph is about creator age. not user age. |
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the age of the creator or perl 6 and raku are both the same cause they are the same thing and it was larry |
02:27 |
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*of |
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antononcube |
I know it is about the creator age. I am basically saying "made by old people for old people." |
02:33 |
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ugexe |
Larry wasn’t the same age when he created each |
03:07 |
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Oh wait I thought it was Perl and Raku, not Perl 6 and Raku 😬 |
03:08 |
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antononcube |
This is what I got (so far) using "JavaScripdt::D3": |
03:42 |
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cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633...e8bac& |
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I have to mark bubble charts more “tunable” when it comes to labels colors and font sizes . |
03:51 |
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Probably the correlation of age-at-creation vs appeared vs rank is more interesting. |
03:57 |
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cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633...032a0& |
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cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633...8f2fc& |
04:07 |
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Xliff |
antoncube: Can you send me that data set? |
04:51 |
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Ah! datawrapper.dwcdn.net/rT0yG/1/ -- There is a link at the bottom to get the .csv |
04:57 |
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librasteve |
according to the data, Larry was 33 when he released perl - so smack in the middle of the Gaussian |
05:30 |
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if raku is to continue to thrive, we need to appeal to a new generation of coders … there’s a renaissance of languages for them to try Nim or Elm or Zig or Roc instead |
05:51 |
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holmdunc |
Elm is a bit moribund already and fading away. Doubt many teenagers use it |
06:53 |
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Though that's due to the idiosyncratic stonewall way the project is managed, not a reflection of the language features |
07:02 |
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patrickb |
m: "a".lines |
08:21 |
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camelia |
( no output ) |
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patrickb |
m: dd "a".lines |
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camelia |
("a",).Seq |
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patrickb |
m: dd "".lines |
08:22 |
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camelia |
().Seq |
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patrickb |
Is this a bug or a feature? |
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(The empty string returning no lines instead of an empty line.) |
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roast has no test covering this. |
08:40 |
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lizmat |
m: dd "".split("\n") |
08:42 |
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camelia |
("",).Seq |
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lizmat |
good question |
08:43 |
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it's at least consistent with "foo".IO.lines where "foo" is an empty file |
08:44 |
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antononcube |
@Xliff The provided TSV file is with incomplete lines. So, I cheated — I imported it in R first and exported it as “full lined” CSV. (It was too late at night for me to make an ad hoc proper importer.) That R importing introduced zeroes for missing data — so, the plots I pasted above can be misleading. |
09:09 |
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patrickb |
Datapoint the current behavior of Str.lines makes the following necessary: github.com/patrickbkr/Terminal-Wid...026efd1d40 |
09:13 |
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lizmat |
you can also write that as if $.text and the code blocks reversed |
09:15 |
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patrickb |
i.e. mapping lines of text will always return a list, except for the empty string where it returns nil |
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lizmat |
fwiw, I'm afraid changing it to produce an empty string, might break quite a bit of code |
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patrickb: alternately, you could use .split("\n") |
09:17 |
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patrickb |
In any case this should be roasted and doced. |
09:20 |
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lizmat |
and offered split(/ <?after \n> /) for the !chomp alternative |
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