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Geth | advent: 4fd859bea4 | (José JoaquÃn Atria)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | raku-advent-2020/drafts Add draft of Timer::Stopwatch article |
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advent: 6d20347c42 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | raku-advent-2020/drafts Merge pull request #74 from jjatria/patch-1 Add draft of Timer::Stopwatch article |
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jmerelo | github.com/Raku/advent/blob/master...authors.md Anyone missing here? | 06:25 | |
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patrickb | .tell moritz I'd like to put the logos of some companies / institutions using raku on raku.org. Do you think your company would be a fit? (Do you use Raku to an extent justifying such a claim?) | 08:55 | |
tellable6 | patrickb, I'll pass your message to moritz | ||
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moritz | patrickb: no :-( | 09:10 | |
tellable6 | 2020-11-30T08:55:20Z #raku <patrickb> moritz I'd like to put the logos of some companies / institutions using raku on raku.org. Do you think your company would be a fit? (Do you use Raku to an extent justifying such a claim?) | ||
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patrickb | moritz: OK. Thanks for the info. | 09:12 | |
lizmat: Could the weekly be a good place to ask for companies using Raku? | 09:16 | ||
tadzik | sounds like a good fit :) | 09:17 | |
patrickb | tadzik: Do you happen to use raku at work? | 09:22 | |
samcv: Do you happen to use raku at work? | 09:26 | ||
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tadzik | patrickb: not really, except for a time-tracking script that does some of my accounting (which I partially rewrote in Rust anyway) | 09:26 | |
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patrickb | tadzik: OK. Thanks for the info. | 09:27 | |
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Xliff | Can you .wrap a block? | 11:30 | |
Now that I look at docs.raku.org/type/Block, I'm beginning to think not. | |||
If that's true, how could one go about it? | |||
Or at least convert a block to a Routine. | 11:31 | ||
m: my $a = -> $a { $a * 2 }; $a.wrap: { say 'wrapped'; nextsame }; | 11:32 | ||
camelia | No such method 'wrap' for invocant of type 'Block'. Did you mean any of these: 'grep', 'map', 'Map', 'WHAT'? in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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Xliff | Well, that answers that question. | ||
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moritz | you can always, like, wrap it :-) | 11:44 | |
Xliff | Yeah. Did that. :) | ||
Trying to wrap Supply.tap properly. | |||
So far I have this: gist.github.com/Xliff/d57a7018b2bf...98ef24fd75 | 11:45 | ||
The question is... do I really need the Callable check? | 11:46 | ||
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raku-bridge | <pie_flavor> In the docs, the Packages page has lots to say about how to interpolate arbitrary variables into FQ names, but not how to turn FQ names into local names. Does Raku have any sort of import/use/using/alias construct, and if so, where should I have been looking for it in the docs? | 12:20 | |
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patrickb | pie_flavor: I think `is export` is what you are looking for. | 12:33 | |
pie_flavor: docs.raku.org/language/modules#Exp..._importing | |||
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patrickb | pie_flavour: I created an issue about the structure of the module documentation: github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3714 | 12:55 | |
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cpan-raku | New module released to CPAN! License::SPDX (3.11.0) by 03JSTOWE | 13:46 | |
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Xliff | Weekly Challenge 89 Task #1 was nice and easy, thanks to Raku! | 14:31 | |
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Xliff | Aaand... #2 takes way longer to execute than I thought it would. | 14:38 | |
But the main list is 362,880 elements large. | 14:40 | ||
Geth | ecosystem: 1fe23b83f4 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | README.md s/Perl6/Raku and remove coughing |
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Xliff | Challenge 89 solutions: repl.it/@Xliff/PointlessRudeGames#main.raku | 14:48 | |
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Geth | ecosystem: 6fb60b0031 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list Fix PSpec URL (it does have a META6.json now) |
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Geth | ecosystem: 10fdb33ebd | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 2 files Make sure shorter distributions are listed earlier E.g. Compress::Zlib before Compress::Zlib::Raw |
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Geth | ecosystem: cb2cb852cb | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | ADOPT-ME.md First version of ADOPT-ME page |
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Geth | ecosystem: f01742c23e | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 2 files First functional version of ADOPT-ME page |
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melezhik | jmerelo! how can I edit my advent post on wordpress? | 16:22 | |
Geth | ecosystem: coke++ created pull request #570: Minor cleanups |
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melezhik | I forgot to say HI ))) | 16:22 | |
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Geth | ecosystem: a2a35b33d2 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | ADOPT-ME.md Mention changes |
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melezhik | .tell jmerelo I dpn't see how can I edit advent posts in wordpress, if you please help me with that ... thanl | 16:37 | |
tellable6 | melezhik, I'll pass your message to jmerelo | ||
melezhik | thanks | ||
.tell jmerelo finally I've found the one | 16:42 | ||
tellable6 | melezhik, I'll pass your message to jmerelo | ||
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jmerelo | Sorry, I just saw this. I sent you instructions also in the post itself. | 16:48 | |
tellable6 | 2020-11-30T16:37:41Z #raku <melezhik> jmerelo I dpn't see how can I edit advent posts in wordpress, if you please help me with that ... thanl | ||
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perryprog | Say, I never was sure about this: regarding the message, "`zef install Readline` or `zef install Linenoise` or use rlwrap for a line editor", which of these line editors are the most "advanced"? | 16:52 | |
Never mind—I meant to install rakudo-star which includes something that makes the things work™. | 16:54 | ||
Ahhh except tab completion does nothing. (Context: re-setting up Raku on newish laptop) | 17:01 | ||
patrickb | weekly: github.com/Raku/raku.org/issues/155 | 17:07 | |
notable6 | patrickb, Noted! (weekly) | ||
patrickb | lizmat: As we said: Above is for the next weekly. | ||
lizmat | patrickb: ack | 17:08 | |
cpan-raku | New module released to CPAN! Gnome::Gtk3 (0.34.1.1) by 03MARTIMM | 17:12 | |
New module released to CPAN! Terminal::ANSI (0.0.5) by 03BDUGGAN | |||
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melezhik | .tell jmerelo I saw you changed my date to 7th of December? This is also fine. Sorry I just got back from vacations, so have not had enough time recently ... | 17:22 | |
tellable6 | melezhik, I'll pass your message to jmerelo | ||
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rba | patrickb: Do you plan a page with sponsors on raku.org? This was on my task list since > 12 months. Yet I haven't got a round touit... :-( | 17:29 | |
jmerelo | melezhik: yep, I schedule them as they come. | ||
melezhik: or as I have time to review them... | |||
melezhik | yeah, if my date is 7th of December, it's even better | 17:30 | |
patrickb | rba: Not sponsors, but users. | ||
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melezhik | I will have time for editing in that case ... | 17:30 | |
does it work for you, jmerelo? | |||
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rba | patrickb: So I create the sponsors page and you a user one? | 17:31 | |
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jmerelo | melezhik: yes, please do that. | 17:33 | |
patrickb | rba: I basically just want to put logos on the start page. I don't intend to create a separate page for this. | 17:36 | |
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Xliff | Is there a way to deserialize PHP object notation using Raku? | 17:36 | |
patrickb is away for dinner | 17:37 | ||
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Xliff | php serialized data example: www.w3schools.com/php/phptryit.asp..._serialize | 17:37 | |
sena_kun | Xliff, write a deserializer? | 17:39 | |
rba | patrickb: Simple is fine for me... En guete. | ||
Xliff | Well, I'd need the specs for that and I'd try. | ||
However when I am asking if there is a deserializer and someone answers back "write one?" I get a little discouraged. | |||
sena_kun: Is the answer: "No"? | 17:40 | ||
sena_kun | Xliff, if there is no such a module in the ecosystem (and there is no such judging by modules.raku.org/search/?q=PHP), I suspect the answer is "no". The good news is that grammars make it pretty easy to do, I think. | 17:41 | |
Xliff | Yeah. That's what I'm looking at right now. | ||
sena_kun | And Raku is not a very mature language with hundreds of thousands of libraries anyway. "Write one" can be either encouraging and discouraging depending on how you look at it, I think. | 17:43 | |
Xliff | Well... I'm gonna try and write it. | 17:44 | |
Wanna test when i'm done? :) | |||
sena_kun | Xliff, good luck! Well, I am not working with PHP, but automated tests are our best friends. | ||
Xliff, I think you have plenty of experience with all the really complex projects you achieved so far. :) But I will gladly look at the code as I wrote a couple of such. | 17:45 | ||
Xliff | :) | 17:46 | |
lizmat | And yet another Rakudo Weekly News hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2020/11/30/2020-...on-fosdem/ | ||
sena_kun | lizmat++ | 17:47 | |
Xliff | sena_kun: repl.it/@Xliff/InexperiencedSkyblu...#main.raku | 17:51 | |
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Xliff boots into Comma | 17:55 | ||
sena_kun | Xliff, this is something! | 17:59 | |
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sena_kun | I wrote github.com/Altai-man/perl6-Config-Netrc in 2016, but I was starting with Raku and the code is too horrible now... | 18:00 | |
lizmat | sena_kun: so you want to bring it up for adoption ? | 18:01 | |
sena_kun | lizmat, why? I think it works as it is and if someone will create a ticket I'll patch it up. | 18:03 | |
lizmat | sorry, misinterpreted your comment "code is too horrible now" | ||
sena_kun | More of a "very non-idiomatic Raku written by a total beginner", I guess. | 18:04 | |
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Xliff | sena-kun: repl.it/@Xliff/InexperiencedSkyblu...#main.raku | 18:20 | |
Got it working in Comma | |||
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Xliff | Is there a regex shortcut for matching a decimal number? | 18:21 | |
sena_kun | Xliff, grammar preview should help with this, yes. | ||
Xliff | sena_kun: What I used. :) | 18:22 | |
sena_kun: Although it hung a few times and I had to restart. :( | |||
sena_kun | Xliff, ouch, that's unfortunate. Something to reproduce would be nice. | 18:23 | |
Xliff | m: say pi.Str ~~ /<:Nd>+/ | ||
camelia | ï½¢3ï½£ | ||
Xliff | sena_kun: Intermittend, otherwise I would have bugged it. | ||
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Xliff | m: my regex float { <[+-]>?\d*'.'\d+[e<[+-]>?\d+]? }; pi.Str ~~ &float | 18:25 | |
camelia | ( no output ) | ||
Xliff | m: my regex float { <[+-]>?\d*'.'\d+[e<[+-]>?\d+]? }; say pi.Str ~~ &float | ||
camelia | ï½¢3.141592653589793ï½£ | ||
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Xliff | sena_kun: repl.it/@Xliff/InexperiencedSkyblu...#main.raku | 18:32 | |
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sena_kun | morayj, ping? | 18:37 | |
morayj | sena_kun: Hello | 18:40 | |
sena_kun | morayj, hey. How are you? | ||
morayj | sena_kun, All good. How's it going? | 18:41 | |
sena_kun | morayj, somehow making it. I was going to ask if you have an opportunity to look at the tickets for the website, and was worrying if things are ok. for you.And don't stress if you don't have one. :) | 18:44 | |
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morayj | sena_kun, Glad you're getting by...I've been working on issue 1. Using virtual machine and only 'sets, bags, and mixes' is loading for me (I know you have an issue about page load times, but other pages only seem to hang). So it seems ok for that page. But not sure about other pages.. | 18:47 | |
sena_kun | morayj, do you have coffeescript installed? | 18:48 | |
If not, you are the third person who tripped over this hang. :S | |||
morayj | sena_kun, Oh, no I don't think so...not reading properly :-) Will look into it | 18:50 | |
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sena_kun | morayj, this will fix loading of other pages, yes. Sorry for the inconvenience. | 18:51 | |
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morayj | sena_kun, no problem. Will see if it works ok with other pages tomorrow... | 19:02 | |
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sena_kun | morayj, thanks. I hope to finish this project this year, so don't hesitate to ping me if any help is needed. | 19:03 | |
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morayj | sena_kun, ok, no problem. Will do | 19:09 | |
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Xliff | sena_kun: Now converting to proper raku types! :) | 19:28 | |
repl.it/@Xliff/InexperiencedSkyblu...#main.raku | |||
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sena_kun | Xliff, does not look so discouraging now? :) | 19:44 | |
Xliff, you can package it afterwards into a basic module and +1 into ecosystem with your credits. | |||
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timotimo | would anybody be upset if the output format of stagestats would change significantly? | 20:28 | |
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MasterDuke | timotimo: your nested stats change? or did that already land? | 20:34 | |
timotimo | that already landed | ||
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leont | Does anyone know why the arch aur package for rakudo hasn't been updated to 2020.11? | 21:02 | |
MasterDuke | it usually only takes a day or two after i flag it out of date to get updated. but i've forgotten the last couple releases | 21:13 | |
just flagged them | 21:14 | ||
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stoned75 | I'm a bit surprised that there are so little occurences of the words [rl]value in Raku's doc | 21:29 | |
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Geth | doc/index-lvalue: fbb75568c6 | (Stoned Elipot)++ | doc/Type/Failure.pod6 Fix link |
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doc/index-lvalue: c92c12a36e | (Stoned Elipot)++ | doc/Language/glossary.pod6 correctly index lvalue |
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doc: fbb75568c6 | (Stoned Elipot)++ | doc/Type/Failure.pod6 Fix link |
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linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/type/Failure | ||
Geth | doc/index-lvalue: 29b94c7c80 | (Stoned Elipot)++ | doc/Language/glossary.pod6 Correctly index lvalue |
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doc: stoned++ created pull request #3715: Correctly index lvalue |
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codesections | Question: do we have an installation method that we prefer to direct new users too? | 22:53 | |
tellable6 | 2020-11-29T12:22:36Z #raku <patrickb> codesections: Do you know what the legal requirements for putting the logo of some company on the website is? Do the companies have to fromally approve? | ||
codesections | (I'm asking because I'm hopeful that the various Advent posts will attract new users and I'm not sure which way to point them) | 22:55 | |
guifa | Generally Rakudo star | 22:57 | |
codesections | In particular, my Advent post (which is scheduled for a few hours from now) links people to a README that I'm finishing up right now | 22:58 | |
guifa | Although for the Mac that can cause problems because of the lack of code signing ( tyil: I’m still going to get to work on that, sorry for the delay) | ||
tyil | guifa: I'm not in a hurry myself | 23:09 | |
mac users should still be able to compile it like the GNU+Linux users | 23:10 | ||
guifa | Yeah, the problem with that is they need to have the developer tools to do that, and that’s a double digit GB download =/ | 23:11 | |
but I’ve got two weeks of isolation coming so … I’ll figure it out :-) | |||
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tyil | damn, thats quite a big addition to the r* tarball | 23:19 | |
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[Coke] | codesections: need approval from someone at the company to mention them on the site/use the logo. And I would ask them to send an email from a corporate account so we have tracking. | 23:21 | |
(and if someone asks for it to be removed, we need to respond) | |||
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codesections | [Coke]: did you intend to mention patrickb rather than me? | 23:24 | |
guifa | tyil: ha, thankfully we wouldn’t need to serve those up. Mac OS is pretty good in that case about letting the user know in the first instance of trying to run any of those tools that they need to download them, and then conveniently walking them through the process. But still…. not ideal when perl and python, etc, are all preinstalled and ready to go | 23:27 | |
tyil | maybe with some time, Raku will be part of the pre-installed base ;D | ||
codesections | yeah, that *must* be why they removed Python – just to open up a slot for us! | 23:29 | |
tyil | we can dream | ||
[Coke] | codesections: oops. yes. | 23:32 | |
his send was sandwiched by two of yours, and I mis-scanned. | 23:33 | ||
codesections | That's what it looked like | ||
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codesections | How do we usually spell Rakuans? | 23:41 | |
tyil | can you give a definition? | 23:42 | |
codesections | Rakoons? | ||
tyil | a, raku users | ||
I call them rakoons | |||
codesections | yeah | ||
tyil | but there's no official word for it I think | 23:43 | |
something for the rsc to make a choice in? ;D | |||
codesections | yeah, just looking for a reasonable/consensus spelling, not for anything official! | 23:44 | |
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