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| ftq | p6: say 3.times 3 | 10:12 | |
| evalable6 | (exit code 1) 04===SORRY!04=== Er… | ||
| ftq, Full output: gist.github.com/695fec1327fb348c6b...181c7ef766 | |||
| ftq | hello | 10:18 | |
| MasterDuke | m: say 3*3; say "hello" x 3; (say "hello") xx 3 # not sure which you were trying to do with the `.times` | 10:22 | |
| evalable6 | 9 hellohellohello hello hello hello |
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| ftq | thx | 10:38 | |
| i have no clue either | |||
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| dakkar | m: role Times { method times($t) { return self * $t } }; say (3 but Times).times: 3; | 11:14 | |
| evalable6 | 9 | ||
| dakkar | 😜 | ||
| lizmat | m: role Times[\times] { method times() { return self * times } }; say (3 but Times[3]).times # :-) | 11:25 | |
| evalable6 | 9 | ||
| tadzik | m: m: role Times[\times] { method gist() { return self * times } }; say (3 but Times[3]) | 11:27 | |
| evalable6 | (exit code 1) This type cannot unbox to a native string: P6opaque, Int in block <unit> at /tmp/R9gciIwKDI line 1 |
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| tadzik | well thta's a fun error message | ||
| m: role Times[\times] { method gist() { return self * times } }; say (3 but Times[3]) | |||
| evalable6 | (exit code 1) This type cannot unbox to a native string: P6opaque, Int in block <unit> at /tmp/8lLVkhyyb1 line 1 |
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| tadzik | ah, it outsmarted me | ||
| dakkar | m: role Times[\times] { method gist() { return (self * times).gist } }; say (3 but Times[3]) | ||
| evalable6 | 9 | 11:29 | |
| dakkar | (ugh, I don't remember the name for the "canonical" embedding of the lambda calculus in a Hindley-Milner type system…) | 11:32 | |
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| PimDaniel | .tell Duke I just try to do package lookup through variables : let's say you have a package A::B:TRUC::D::E::F; my $truc='TRUC' how do you interpolate $truc to access to this package. If i write my %h = A::B::TRUC::D::E::F::; %h contains my symbols. if i write my %h = ::A::B::($truc)::D::E::F , Noooo :( | 13:37 | |
| tellable6 | PimDaniel, I haven't seen Duke around, did you mean kleb? | ||
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| PimDaniel | .tell Duke now back to the example, and look at my code but there's probably more simple example to explain what i wanna do. And please forget what the example do : it does nothing, i just want to undestand what is under the box `Raku`. | 13:39 | |
| tellable6 | PimDaniel, I haven't seen Duke around, did you mean kleb? | ||
| PimDaniel | I try to do package lookup through variables : let's say you have a package A::B:TRUC::D::E::F; my $truc='TRUC' how do you interpolate $truc to access to this package. If i write my %h = A::B::TRUC::D::E::F::; %h contains my symbols. if i write my %h = ::A::B::($truc)::D::E::F , Noooo :( | 13:40 | |
| I tried many solutions but none work :( | 13:41 | ||
| .tell Coke I just try to do package lookup through variables : let's say you have a package A::B:TRUC::D::E::F; my $truc='TRUC' how do you interpolate $truc to access to this package. If i write my %h = A::B::TRUC::D::E::F::; %h contains my symbols. if i write my %h = ::A::B::($truc)::D::E::F , Noooo :( | 13:42 | ||
| tellable6 | PimDaniel, I'll pass your message to [Coke] | ||
| PimDaniel | .tell Coke now back to the example, and look at my code but there's probably more simple example to explain what i wanna do. And please forget what the example do : it does nothing, i just want to undestand what is under the box `Raku`. | ||
| tellable6 | PimDaniel, I'll pass your message to [Coke] | ||
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| RaycatWhoDat | This is the first time I've been logged in longer than a hour or so. | 14:29 | |
| There were some very "interesting" conversations over the last few days. | |||
| tyil | RaycatWhoDat: this is why bouncers are so popular among IRC users | 14:31 | |
| there's just so much happening that you don't want to miss out on | |||
| El_Che | tyil: nw you're being sarcastic :) | ||
| tyil | El_Che: well, not on the reason bouncers being popular :p | 14:32 | |
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| RaycatWhoDat | Well, hopefully, it's not a common thing and I just missed it this whole time. | 14:34 | |
| tyil | RaycatWhoDat: it's not a common thing in #raku from my experience | 14:35 | |
| there's other networks where it is the norm, but Freenode is generally quite on-topic with most of its channels | |||
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| [Coke] | over the last few months, the most popular off topic convos were about US politics & space x launches. | 15:25 | |
| tellable6 | hey [Coke], you have a message: gist.github.com/47592bc3b8b618303f...e21312f74c | ||
| hey [Coke], you have a message: gist.github.com/3e6fd5e4395b08e853...284b829abb | |||
| [Coke] | thankfully only one of those is still exploding. | ||
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| tadzik | kek | 15:26 | |
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| lizmat | well, exploding: rapid unscheduled deconstruction :-) | 15:40 | |
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| lizmat | and I don't think it technically exploded: it crashed, releasing excess fuel that ignited | 15:41 | |
| it's al very impressive, but most of the damage is still from the crash, I'd say | 15:42 | ||
| tadzik | should've made them electric, Teslas at least don't explode when the roofs fall off | ||
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| El_Che | tadzik: they just autocombust | 15:58 | |
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| guifa | Well… that’s embarassing. LOL. Apparently on my number formatting module, I never thought to do a test for 0. And the standard way of determining the number of digits using ceiling log10 … doesn’t work with 0. | 16:50 | |
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| [Coke] | m: module THIS::THAT { our $WHY = 3; }; my $var = "WHY"; dd $THIS::THAT::($var); # PimDaniel | 17:26 | |
| evalable6 | Int $WHY = 3 | ||
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| PimDaniel | Thank's Coke, but i yet know how to do this : what i want to coherce into a variable is THAT: module $THIS::THAT { our $WHY ) 3; }; my $var = 'THAT' , and got the same result as Stash = ::THIS::THAT using $var, Thank's. | 17:40 | |
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| PimDaniel | sorry i'v put '$' before $THIS : remove it. | 17:41 | |
| The Stash inherits a hash and i want to get it but it seams to be impossible. | 17:42 | ||
| .tell Coke Thank's Coke, but i yet know how to do this. what i want to get from a variable is THAT: module THIS::THAT { our $WHY = 3; }; my $var = 'THAT' , (Stash) my %st = ::THIS::$var or THIS::$var:: or any , using $var, Thank's. | 17:46 | ||
| tellable6 | PimDaniel, I'll pass your message to [Coke] | ||
| [Coke] | if I've just sent it, you don't have to .tell me. :) | ||
| PimDaniel | ok sorry :/ | ||
| [Coke] | m: module THIS::THAT { our $WHY = 3; }; my $var = "THAT"; dd $THIS::($var)::WHY; | 17:47 | |
| evalable6 | Int $WHY = 3 | ||
| PimDaniel | True it work when you go forward, but i want to get the Stash object , kinda hash , not WHY element into THAT, Sorry. | 17:49 | |
| THIS::THAT::.kv works! | 17:50 | ||
| THIS.kv too. | 17:51 | ||
| *THIS::.kv | 17:52 | ||
| [Coke] | show me a line using .kv that works given that module? | 17:53 | |
| PimDaniel | Ok, i've may not writen it like this. | ||
| [Coke] | (or a different module if that one isn't sufficient) | ||
| m: module THIS::THAT { our $WHY = 3; }; dd THIS::THAT::.kv # ? | 17:55 | ||
| evalable6 | ("\$WHY", 3).Seq | ||
| PimDaniel | I confirm dd THIS::THAT::.kv works. | 17:57 | |
| [Coke] | m: module THIS::THAT { our $WHY = 3; }; dd THIS::('THAT')::.kv # so this is the error | 17:58 | |
| evalable6 | (exit code 1) 04===SORRY!04=== Er… | ||
| [Coke], Full output: gist.github.com/fcbb8c663e8a6fd51a...486b997d99 | |||
| [Coke] | Combination of indirect name lookup and call not supported | ||
| PimDaniel | you said $THIS::($var)::WHY | ||
| [Coke] | so if you can't do it with syntax, you'll have to do it indirectly. | ||
| the $ is because the WHY is a scalar. | 17:59 | ||
| (the $ at the beginning) | |||
| PimDaniel | look at that : pastebin.com/DjBCeDXE | 18:00 | |
| MyModule::Inner::.kv works for me. | 18:01 | ||
| What are your running with? : re 'module THIS::THAT { our $WHY = 3; }; dd THIS::THAT::.kv ' => ("\$WHY", 3).Seq | 18:04 | ||
| re is an alias='raku -e' | |||
| tonyo | m: module X { package I { our $v = 42; } }; say X::I::<$v>; | 18:05 | |
| evalable6 | 42 | ||
| PimDaniel | m: module THIS::THAT { our $WHY = 3; }; dd THIS::THAT::.kv | ||
| evalable6 | ("\$WHY", 3).Seq | ||
| tonyo | PimDaniel: ^ | ||
| PimDaniel | Hi tonyo | ||
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| PimDaniel | Ok Coke i think a must look at the url you gave me, thank's | 18:07 | |
| I suppose a solution for that is to loop into hashes, then , attributes. It is probably wanted since Stash i do well understand means something like `hidden`, please tell me if i'm wrong. | 18:10 | ||
| Nothing is urgent: i just wanna understand what is under the box (Raku). | |||
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| tonyo | 🤦♀️ | 18:29 | |
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| [Coke] | m: module THIS::THAT { our $WHY = 3; } ; var $x = "THAT" ; dd THIS.WHO{$THAT}.WHO | 18:32 | |
| evalable6 | (exit code 1) 04===SORRY!04=== Er… | ||
| [Coke], Full output: gist.github.com/e33dcd33e771fa70fb...4e7d53841c | |||
| [Coke] | m: module THIS::THAT { our $WHY = 3; } ; var $x = "THAT" ; dd THIS.WHO{$x}.WHO | ||
| evalable6 | (exit code 1) 04===SORRY!04=== Er… | ||
| [Coke], Full output: gist.github.com/7915f5e5288f80d637...7825fac3d4 | |||
| [Coke] | m: module THIS::THAT { our $WHY = 3; } ; my $x = "THAT" ; dd THIS.WHO{$x}.WHO | 18:33 | |
| evalable6 | Stash element = {"\$WHY" => 3} | ||
| [Coke] | ^^ | ||
| .WHO on something like THIS gives you its stash. then you can index it like you'd expect. | 18:34 | ||
| .tell PimDaniel m: module THIS::THAT { our $WHY = 3; } ; my $x = "THAT" ; dd THIS.WHO{$x}.WHO | |||
| tellable6 | [Coke], I'll pass your message to PimDaniel | ||
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| summerisle | m: say $_.base(64) for gather { with '/dev/random'.IO.open.read(32) { take .shift while .so } }; | 19:41 | |
| evalable6 | (exit code 1) base argument to base out of range. Is: 64, should be in 2..36 in block <unit> at /tmp/PylbyDHvNA line 1 |
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| summerisle | m: say $_.base(16) for gather { with '/dev/random'.IO.open.read(32) { take .shift while .so } }; | ||
| evalable6 | ED D0 2D 46 6A 79 98 8D C5 3E C9 E7 82 2D C8 2D 4D A2 30 B8 78 E7 5B 92 A7 65 8C 5F 67 1B 30 87 |
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| summerisle | m: say $_.base(16) for gather with '/dev/random'.IO.open.read(32) { take .shift while .so }; | 19:42 | |
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| summerisle | m: say $_.base(36) for gather { with '/dev/random'.IO.open.read(32) { take .shift while .so } }; | ||
| evalable6 | 1N X E 4H 1F 6W 4X 3P 3M |
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| tbrowder | .tell lizmat FYI the planet.raku.org does use both rss and atom format feed types. the README could use some love, and i'll try to help that iff i get my blog feed working | 20:25 | |
| tellable6 | tbrowder, I'll pass your message to lizmat | ||
| lizmat | ++tbrowder | ||
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| krako[m] | Sorry to annoy you again. I might be stupid but I see *.asc files with the files but don't find the public key... | 21:43 | |
| Anyone know where I can find it, please ? | |||
| (about the rakudo download files) | 21:44 | ||
| Sorry, I copy pasted my question from the raku's discord server like an idiot. | 22:11 | ||
| I downloaded 'rakudo-moar' and 'rakudo-star' from "rakudo.org". | |||
| With these files, there are `*.asc` files but I can't find the public keys. | |||
| Does anyone could help please ? | 22:12 | ||
| MasterDuke | tyil and Altai-man_ are who you probably want to ask | ||
| tyil | krako[m]: rakudo-star should be signed by my key, www.tyil.nl/pubkey.txt | 22:13 | |
| I should probably document it in the README at least | 22:14 | ||
| krako[m] | For this file `rakudo-moar-2020.12-01-win-x86_64-msvc.zip` I have this fingerprint `7A6C9EB8809CFEAF0ED4E09F18C438E6FF24326D` | 22:16 | |
| I imported your tyil but it doesn't match | |||
| *yours | |||
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| tyil | oh, windows, that would be hankache, but I haven't heard of him for ages | 22:16 | |
| krako[m] | I also downloaded this file `rakudo-moar-2020.12-01-win-x86_64-msvc.zip` | ||
| tyil | wait, no that's rakudo-moar, not rakudo-star | 22:17 | |
| I don't know who signs those | |||
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| krako[m] | thank you anyway ! | 22:18 | |
| tyil | krako[m]: I've asked on #raku-dev, perhaps someone's looking over there that can tell | 22:19 | |
| krako[m] | for the last cited file, I made a clipboard mistake. I also downloaded this file : `rakudo-star-2020.05.1-01-win-x86_64-JIT.msi` | ||
| tbrowder | i've submitted a PR for github.com/Raku/planet.raku.org if someone could please take a look | ||
| tyil | krako[m]: I only do rakudo-star's source release (usable on GNU+Linux and BSDs), hankache did the windows release for it, but as stated before, he's been missing for a while | ||
| tbrowder | pr #4 | 22:20 | |
| tyil | if you have the knowledge (and desire!) to play with github actions, perhaps you can set up an automated build to make a .msi out of it too :> | ||
| krako[m] | tyil: that's sad but ok ! Sorry, but I don't have a github account and don't know github actions | 22:21 | |
| tyil | too bad, but understandable | 22:22 | |
| the last thing I can offer you is hankache's repo, with instructions on how to build rakudo-star on windows | |||
| github.com/hankache/rakudo-star-win | |||
| if nothing else, you'd still be able to locally make your own up-to-date rakudo-star .msi :) | 22:23 | ||
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| krako[m] | not much... but thanks tyil ! | 22:33 | |
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| [Coke] | You can also do a build of rakudo on windows; installing zef after that and the modules you need is easy | 22:49 | |
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| [Coke] | I do occasional builds with strawberry perl & MSVC... 17? once you have the devtools command prompt and the perl, it's easy | 22:50 | |
| (and git) | |||
| El_Che | [Coke]: is the tooling available on Github Actions? | 22:57 | |
| [Coke] | No clue. I can give it a shot I guess. | 23:14 | |
| do we have github actions for, e.g. linux? | |||
| to do a build? | |||
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| El_Che | every repo has it | 23:30 | |
| you can run linux, windows, mac | 23:31 | ||
| en containers | |||
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