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| guifa | codesections: sorry just got home, but yeah, it does indeed look like for some reason it’s backtracking | 00:16 | |
| codesections | That's what I concluded. I decided it was worth opening an issue: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/3890 | 00:19 | |
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| guifa | Also wow. My InlineTest module is probably my most popular one yet | 00:29 | |
| I haven’t even added it to ecosystem yet lolol | 00:30 | ||
| but codesections++ ty for the idea :-) | |||
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| randyl22 | if a subroutine has 2 optional positional parameters with default values, is there a way to use the default value for the 1st and pass in a value for the 2nd? | 02:20 | |
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| cpan-raku | New module released to CPAN! Fcntl (0.0.2) by 03MSTEMLE | 05:07 | |
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| moritz | randyl22: if they are named parameters, it's pretty easy :-) | 06:12 | |
| tellable6 | moritz, I'll pass your message to randyl22 | 06:13 | |
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| randyl22 | moritz: that's what I wound up doing. I was just curious, though. I thought if I passed Nil for the 1st arg, it would cause the default to be used, but that didn't seem to be the case. | 06:48 | |
| tellable6 | 2020-08-29T06:13:01Z #raku <moritz> randyl22: if they are named parameters, it's pretty easy :-) | 06:49 | |
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| cpan-raku | New module released to CPAN! App::Mi6 (1.0.3) by 03SKAJI | 09:41 | |
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| cpan-raku | New module released to CPAN! Math::Libgsl::MovingWindow (0.0.1) by 03FRITH | 10:54 | |
| New module released to CPAN! Math::Libgsl::Matrix (0.2.0) by 03FRITH | 11:02 | ||
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| mendel | hi Folks! | 13:46 | |
| m: multi sub postfix:<+++>(Int) { "int" }; multi sub postfix:<+++>(Whatever) { "whatever" }; dd *+++; | |||
| camelia | WhateverCode.new | ||
| mendel | i was expecting it to print <<whatever\n>> - what did i miss? | 13:47 | |
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| masak | mendel: that the `*` term in expressions create a small "whatevercode" expression, like an auto-lambda-ing... thing | 14:16 | |
| m: say * + 2 | |||
| camelia | WhateverCode.new | ||
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| masak | m: say (* + 2)(40) | 14:17 | |
| camelia | 42 | ||
| masak | m: multi sub postfix:<+++>(Int) { "int" }; multi sub postfix:<+++>(Whatever) { "whatever" }; say (*+++)(*) | 14:18 | |
| camelia | whatever | ||
| masak | m: multi sub postfix:<+++>(Int) { "int" }; multi sub postfix:<+++>(Whatever) { "whatever" }; say (*+++)(42) | ||
| camelia | int | ||
| masak is in a maze of twisty little abstractions, all alike | |||
| mendel | masak: yup, my point is that my postfix:<+++> was supposed to be Whatever-aware (like eg. infix:<..> is) and not relying on auto-priming | 14:24 | |
| i was expecting the compiler to see that i have a multi candidate for Whatever, to signal that it wants the Whatever object instead of a WhateverCode object | 14:26 | ||
| codesections | masak: go NORTH | ||
| tbrowder | hi, i'm having trouble with openss | 14:27 | |
| module OpenSSL | 14:28 | ||
| lucs | mendel!!! | ||
| tbrowder | cannot find my native library which is in a non-standard place and is installed from source from openssl 1.1.1g | 14:29 | |
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| tbrowder | do i need a special symlink? | 14:30 | |
| masak | mendel: I know -- I guess the easy explanation is that compiler/syntax gets first dibs on decidion, and it decides that your expression is an abstraction | 14:31 | |
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| masak | mendel: it's a bit similar to if you define a `->` infix operator -- totally fine to do, but in a battle between it and the pointy-block syntax, your nifty operator meets a crushing defeat | 14:32 | |
| mendel | m: .raku.say for &infix:<xx>.cando(\(42, *) | 14:33 | |
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Unable to parse expression in argument list; couldn't find final ')' (corresponding starter was at line 1) at <tmp>:1 ------> 3.raku.say for &infix:<xx>.cando(\(42, *)7⏏5<EOL> |
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| mendel | m: .raku.say for &infix:<xx>.cando(\(42, *)) | ||
| camelia | multi sub infix:<xx> (Mu \x, Whatever $) { #`(Sub|77370832) ... } multi sub infix:<xx> (Mu \x, Num:D(Any):D $n) { #`(Sub|77370688) ... } |
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| masak | mendel: this is also similar to how (currently, in Rakudo) infix:<&&> and infix:<||> can not be overridden, because they have magical voodoo thunkish behavior that needs support from the compiler | ||
| mendel | i mean if the compiler always wins and auto-primes any operators when it sees a Whatever-star, then what's the point of the above multi candidate for infix:<xx>? | 14:34 | |
| tbrowder | same problem with other cro ssl dependencies | 14:39 | |
| mendel | yes, i see why `->` and infix:<&&> and infix:<||> are special - OTOH the un-conditional auto-priming of any operator sounds a bit confusing (considering that some operators have multi candidates with Whatever params) | ||
| i mean, i can understand that there's some reason why user-defined ops cannot have it, just i wonder why or if it was just me doing it the wrong way | 14:40 | ||
| thanks anyways! | 14:41 | ||
| lucs | mendel: Doing some Raku these days? | ||
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| tbrowder | i'm reporting public website access success with non-tls cro reverse proxy on apache. see florida-candidates.us | 15:28 | |
| going to try tls next with a managed domain... | 15:29 | ||
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| Geth | doc: 1b08242be7 | Coke++ | xt/final-newline.t cleanup... ...leftovers from the whitespace test we copied from |
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| Geth | doc: e2c7a87d12 | Coke++ | doc/Type/Signature.pod6 Remove unneeded augment, update explanation Closes #3455 |
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| linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/type/Signature | ||
| DOC#3455 [closed]: github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3455 [docs][xt] xt/examples-compilation.t doc/Type/Signature.pod6 failing | |||
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| Geth | ¦ problem-solving: fecundf assigned to jnthn Issue Extended identifiers- reserving :sym<...> scares me github.com/Raku/problem-solving/issues/225 | 16:36 | |
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| moritz | hi all. Currently on vacation with crippled Internet (no SSH, no IRC ports open), so if you want to reach me, try email :-) | 17:46 | |
| codesections | ... so how are you sending us that message on IRC? | 17:47 | |
| :D | |||
| moritz | mobile hotspot | ||
| codesections | I guess IRC doesn't take much bandwidth! | 17:48 | |
| moritz | yeah, but I have to switch my whole laptopt to mobile bandwidth, so I won't be doing that all the time | ||
| bye bye | 17:49 | ||
| codesections | Very reasonable. And besides -- you're on vacation! | ||
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| Geth | ecosystem: alabamenhu++ created pull request #532: Add Test::Inline |
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| tobs | m: multi sub postfix:<+++>(Int) { "int" }; multi sub postfix:<+++>(Whatever) { "whatever" }; say Whatever.new+++ | 18:16 | |
| camelia | whatever | ||
| tobs | what has special behavior in the compiler is only the `*` token which is otherwise an instance of Whatever. This is not what you want, probably, but you could have your own non-compiler whatever term and get in a habit of using that in places where you don't want currying to happen. | 18:18 | |
| m: multi sub postfix:<+++>(Int) { "int" }; multi sub postfix:<+++>(Whatever) { "whatever" }; sub term:<†> { state $†= Whatever.new }; say †+++ | 18:20 | ||
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Name must begin with alphabetic character at <tmp>:1 ------> 3) { "whatever" }; sub term:<†> { state $7⏏5†= Whatever.new }; say †+++ expecting any of: constraint … |
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| tobs | m: multi sub postfix:<+++>(Int) { "int" }; multi sub postfix:<+++>(Whatever) { "whatever" }; sub term:<†> { state $ = Whatever.new }; say †+++ | ||
| camelia | whatever | ||
| Geth | ecosystem: e270637bac | L'Alabameñu++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list Add Test::Inline See subject ^_^ |
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| ecosystem: 38e40133f5 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list Merge pull request #532 from alabamenhu/patch-9 Add Test::Inline |
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| Geth | doc: mendel++ created pull request #3599: Restore epub and bigpage |
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| Geth | doc: codesections++ created pull request #3601: Update method signatures to include *%_ |
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| mendel | masak & tobs: i found it finally, indeed it's NYI and should later use the multi signatures to decide whether to auto-prime: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/mast....nqp#L9968 | 22:45 | |
| thanks for the answers to both of you | 22:46 | ||
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| Xliff | \ | 22:51 | |
| \o even | |||
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| Geth | doc/master: 10 commits pushed by (Daniel Sockwell)++ review: github.com/Raku/doc/compare/e2c7a8...87be827b74 |
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| Xliff | mendel: Good stuff! | 22:59 | |
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