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| rypervenche | I wonder if this is related: github.com/Raku/old-issue-tracker/issues/5669 | 00:36 | |
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| Geth | ¦ doc: coke assigned to tbrowder Issue Take advantage of new Raku --doc=auth-fmt capability github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3414 | 01:07 | |
| ¦ doc: coke self-assigned style choice of sub-directory github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3023 | 01:12 | ||
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| rypervenche | Oh, I got it to work by adding a "my" to the second one. Interesting. | 01:15 | |
| Geth | Raku-Steering-Council/main: e90a227248 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | nominations/2020/acceptance.txt Add my acceptance |
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| Geth | doc: ec82de941e | Coke++ | xt/word-variants.t alphabetize |
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| doc: 56594ec8ed | Coke++ | 2 files prefer 'subdirectory'. Closes #3023 |
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| linkable6 | DOC#3023 [closed]: github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3023 [xt] style choice of sub-directory | ||
| Geth | doc: a88182cd22 | Coke++ | doc/Language/modules.pod6 fix whitespace |
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| linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/language/modules | ||
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| jmerelo | Morning all. Created a specific page for hacktoberfest-friendly issues in the Rakuverse here raku.github.io/hacktoberfest/ Please add your proposal via PR | 06:09 | |
| Xliff | Where's this year's hacktoberfest page? | 06:12 | |
| jmerelo | Xliff: right there or github.com/Raku/hacktoberfest if you want to go there directly | 06:13 | |
| Xliff | Thanks! | ||
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| MasterDuke | timotimo: looks good. only thing i saw was inconsistent capitalization between MoarMV/nqp/raku/rakudo/etc | 07:43 | |
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| [Coke] | .ask jmerelo - why use the unlicense? If someone is submitting something through that site on the way to another repo, we don't want to have a license mismatch. | 13:30 | |
| tellable6 | [Coke], I'll pass your message to jmerelo | ||
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| timotimo | notable6: weekly wakelift.de/can-you-appimageine-that/ | 15:40 | |
| notable6 | timotimo, Noted! (weekly) | ||
| timotimo | *clickbaits* | 15:41 | |
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| lizmat | sena_kun++ # a new Comma Complete release: twitter.com/koto_san_kana/status/1...5001529346 | 15:45 | |
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| sena_kun | jnthn++ for rescuing it | 15:55 | |
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| phogg | is there some method on Str analogous to strspn()/strcspn()? Or, how would you do the same thing the Raku way? | 18:03 | |
| [Coke] | phogg: given $a, $b of "thistle", "this", that's 4, "thistle", "nope" is 0... what is "thistle", "that". 2? | 18:07 | |
| codesections | phogg: The way I'd do this would probably be with a regex: | 18:08 | |
| m: say ('129th' ~~ /^\d+/).pos | 18:09 | ||
| camelia | 3 | ||
| codesections | (^^^ same as www.cplusplus.com/reference/cstring/strspn/) | ||
| (and `\d` could be a character range, like `<[abgiqu]>`) | 18:10 | ||
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| [Coke] | oh, I misread that function definition. | 18:11 | |
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| phogg | regex is the obvious choice, but constructing the character classes and handling the negative case is a bit of work | ||
| not the pleasant experience I was hoping for. I'll probably add something to Str to hide the noise. | 18:12 | ||
| Altai-man | This seems like a very specific case to add it to Str. | ||
| Can be done in a library, though. | 18:13 | ||
| phogg | what's all this mutability for if I can't extend the language locally? | ||
| s/can't/don't/ # or whatever | |||
| codesections | phogg: Maybe I'm misunderstanding how `strspn` works, but isn't `cset[] = "1234567890"` exactly the same as `^<[1234567890]>`? | ||
| Altai-man | Ah, you can extend it locally. | 18:14 | |
| phogg | codesections: it lacks a certain obviousness | ||
| Altai-man | I mean, it sounds very specific to add it to the language for everyone. | ||
| phogg | yeah, it's probably not too common | ||
| I'm converting some existing parser code and it's easier to not re-think all of the logic, at least not in the first pass | 18:15 | ||
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| codesections | I guess obviousness is in the eye of the beholder :D I'd find the regex version more obvious (and would need documentation to know what parameters to strspn mean). But I can understand if you feel the other way | 18:16 | |
| phogg | I only really came here looking for the secret $string[<weird raku magic>] answer that I wasn't seeing, if any. | ||
| lizmat | phogg: you can call routines from the standard library with nativeCall? | 18:17 | |
| which, if you're handling ASCII only, should be fine | |||
| codesections | m: say '129th'.match(/^\d+/).pos | ||
| camelia | 3 | ||
| phogg | codesections: well, if you had it in method form it would be "thistle".whatever("this") or "thistle".notwhatever("that"); | ||
| codesections | ^^^ if you want a method form | 18:18 | |
| Altai-man | m: sub foo($pattern, $str) { my @chars = $pattern.comb.unique; ($str ~~ m:g/@chars+/).max }; foo("strrrr", 'heh st strr ee') | ||
| camelia | ( no output ) | ||
| Altai-man | m: sub foo($pattern, $str) { my @chars = $pattern.comb.unique; ($str ~~ m:g/@chars+/).max }; foo("strrrr", 'heh st strr ee').say | ||
| camelia | ｢strr｣ | ||
| Altai-man | m: sub foo($pattern, $str) { my @chars = $pattern.comb.unique; ($str ~~ m:g/@chars+/).max }; say "strrrr".&foo('heh st strr ee') | ||
| camelia | ｢strr｣ | ||
| Altai-man | ^ this is method form | ||
| phogg | lizmat: not a bad idea | ||
| lizmat | docs.raku.org/language/nativecall#...rd_library | 18:19 | |
| Altai-man | m: sub whatever($str, $pattern) { my @chars = $pattern.comb.unique; ($str ~~ m:g/@chars+/).max }; say "thistle".&whatever('this') | ||
| camelia | ｢thist｣ | ||
| Altai-man | phogg, ^ | ||
| phogg | Altai-man: thanks | 18:22 | |
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| Geth | Raku-Steering-Council/acceptance-jj: e90a227248 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | nominations/2020/acceptance.txt Add my acceptance |
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| Raku-Steering-Council/acceptance-jj: f69581515e | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | nominations/2020/acceptance.txt Merge branch 'main' into acceptance-jj |
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| Raku-Steering-Council/main: 0ea2b886e7 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | nominations/2020/acceptance.txt Adds myself |
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| Raku-Steering-Council/main: f69581515e | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | nominations/2020/acceptance.txt Merge branch 'main' into acceptance-jj |
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| Raku-Steering-Council/main: 9d61712e82 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | nominations/2020/acceptance.txt Merge pull request #36 from Raku/acceptance-jj Adds myself |
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| Geth | Raku-Steering-Council/main: 6e088e1db3 | (Jonathan Worthington)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | nominations/2020/acceptance.txt Accept nomination |
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| moon-child | this might be more of a #moarvm question--let me know if it is--but is there any way to interactively view disassembly for a function or block? | 21:44 | |
| AlexDaniel | moon-child: no | 21:48 | |
| moon-child: you're interested in machine code, right? Not just AST? | |||
| timotimo: ↑ maybe you know a trick on how to get something? | 21:50 | ||
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| AlexDaniel | btw I used to think that it wouldn't be possible or at least wouldn't be useful, but julia does it and it's neat: gist.github.com/AlexDaniel/0b2f88f...41dc41be6c | 22:00 | |
| note that if you pass different types it'll give different code :) | 22:01 | ||
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| moon-child | AlexDaniel: yes, machine code | 22:23 | |
| AlexDaniel: I think I was vaguely aware that julia had that feature, but I mainly know it from lisp | 22:24 | ||
| AlexDaniel | yeah, we don't have anything as accessible to do that | 22:25 | |
| moon-child | e.g. try (disassemble #'(lambda (x y) (+ x y))) in sbcl or ccl | ||
| AlexDaniel | moon-child: btw I'm interested to know why you need that :) | 22:26 | |
| moon-child | no reason in particular; just curious about mvm codegen | ||
| AlexDaniel | ah, maybe try #moarvm indeed, people more knowledgeable than me should be able to chime in :) | 22:27 | |
| it's a bit quiet during this time of day but still | |||
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| timotimo | moon-child: you can set an env var to get moar to dump all the assembly in a folder of your choice | 23:19 | |
| i recommend setting it together with the spesh log so you can correlate the output of that with the assembly files | 23:20 | ||
| the magical incantation to disassemble lookslike | |||
| objdump -D -b binary -m i386:x86-64 -M intel /tmp/moar-jit.21554/moar-jit-0038.bin | |||
| moon-child | cool! Would be nice to be able to use interactively, but that's a start | 23:21 | |
| what's the env var? I can only find MVM_JIT_DUMP_BYTECODE | |||
| timotimo | yeah dump bytecode is one, MVM_SPESH_LOG is the other | 23:24 | |
| you might find shocking what you see :P | 23:25 | ||
| moon-child | wow! That's . . . big | 23:29 | |
| is there a good way to distinguish individual functions? | 23:30 | ||
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| timotimo | it should have a map file in the folder | 23:30 | |
| moon-child | nope; just .bin files and the log file | 23:32 | |
| timotimo | there's also MVM_JIT_DEBUG=1 which puts more info in the spesh log | 23:34 | |
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