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🦋 Welcome to the MAIN() IRC channel of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org). *** CONFERENCE TIME conf.raku.org *** This channel is logged for the purpose of keeping a history about its development | evalbot usage: 'm: say 3;' or /msg camelia m: ... | Log inspection is still being worked out Set by lizmat on 6 August 2021. |
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| lizmat | .oO( it's komkommertijd on #raku ) |
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| El_Che | (the Silly Season for the anglophones around here) | 08:42 | |
| Altreus | extra helpful weekly with all those video links on! | ||
| MasterDuke | yeah, that was a new one to me | 08:43 | |
| El_Che | I think lizmat is happy about the reddit conversations to feel the komkommertijd :) | ||
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| lizmat | actually, no: they drain me | ||
| El_Che | sarcasm sign | ||
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| Altreus | turns out there are lots of proposals for sarcasm signs | 09:48 | |
| El_Che | normally I would make a commitee and charter joke, but for people sanity, I keep it in my filter :) | 10:21 | |
| lizmat | filter++ | 10:27 | |
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| lizmat | afk& | 11:09 | |
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| lizmat clickbaits rakudoweekly.blog/2021/08/09/2021-...tcon-done/ | 17:05 | ||
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| tonyo_ | lizmat: most of my group thought is how to handle the auth .. does the group name suddenly occupy a username: `raku-community` so auth is `zef:raku-community` or should the auth be whoever is uploading and there's something else in the meta handling _who_ the org is | 17:20 | |
| guess that's what the `owner` field is for | 17:21 | ||
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| lizmat | yeah, unless there's another owner, "raku-community" or "raku-community-modules" would be the owner | 17:28 | |
| and if there's another owner, it wouldn't be a raku-community-module | |||
| now, on whoever is uploading: I don't think that's information that should be in the META | 17:29 | ||
| who uploaded it, is more a later forensics question than a decision on which module you should load for a given URI ? | |||
| ugexe | just have usernames and orgs be the same similar to github | 17:31 | |
| lizmat | would work for me... although it should be github.com/gitlab.com agnostic ? | 17:32 | |
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| ugexe | the auth shoudnt be something that changes much if ever, otherwise consumers will have be incentivized to not use them for e.g. `use Foo:auth<...>` | 17:33 | |
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| lizmat | agree | 17:35 | |
| tonyo_ | it'll be specific to the eco - that was my feeling too .. `raku-community` would eat that username but that seems like nbd | 17:36 | |
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| ugexe | yeah so really anything org related is pretty much separate from raku / meta6 | 17:46 | |
| you can fill out some arbitrary owner/whatever field automatically but that wouldnt realistically be consumed by anything | 17:47 | ||
| tonyo_ | yea. okay we're on the same page about it | ||
| Xliff | What does this error mean: Cannot call method 'package_at_key' on a null object | 17:51 | |
| in method COERCE at /home/cbwood/Work/BizzellAppServer/app/lib/Bizzell/Inventory/Instance.pm6 ($WORK::Inventory::Instance) line 33 | |||
| The package in question is definitely not defined, according to a .gist | |||
| This is in a method COERCE, btw. | 17:52 | ||
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| aixylinux | I just installed rakudo star bundle rakudo-star-2021.07-01-win-x86_64-msvc on Win 10. raku -u outputs strange characters. What is wrong? | 20:08 | |
| C:\Users\danhale>raku -v | |||
| Welcome to 𝐑𝐚𝐤𝐮𝐝𝐨™ v2021.07. | |||
| Implementing the 𝐑𝐚𝐤𝐮™ programming language v6.d. | |||
| Built on MoarVM version 2021.07. | |||
| raku -v, sorry, not raku -u | 20:09 | ||
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| [Coke] | It's unicode; getting that font right on windows is hard. One sec, will find the ticket #. | 20:14 | |
| hurm. I cannot find the ticket I thought I opened. | 20:15 | ||
| It's "Rakudo" and "Raku"; you'd need to a) be using the right codepage on windows, and b) have a font that can render those characters. | 20:16 | ||
| I think the plan is to make that ASCII if we're on windows. for now, it's cosmetic (but does indicate you might want to enable unicode in your shell) | 20:17 | ||
| ah, it was closed: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/4379 | |||
| read through that; it was closed in Jun, so I would have expected the fix to work in the .07 release | 20:18 | ||
| aixylinux | Thanks for the quick response. The REPL displays correctly. chcp says codepage is 437. What ought it to be? | 20:27 | |
| [Coke] | says in the ticket. | 20:31 | |
| (I always have to look it up) | |||
| aixylinux | The ticket says chcp 65001. That produces different garbage. | 20:32 | |
| [Coke] | m: say chr(0x00Df) ; # will probably make this work. | ||
| camelia | ß | ||
| [Coke] | Yes. | ||
| aixylinux | C:\Users\danhale>chcp 65001 | 20:33 | |
| Active code page: 65001 | |||
| [Coke] | which is the behavior I reported before lizmat closed the ticket. | ||
| aixylinux | C:\Users\danhale>rakudo -v | ||
| Welcome to 𝐑𝐚𝐤𝐮𝐝𝐨™ v2021.07. | |||
| Implementing the 𝐑𝐚𝐤𝐮™ programming language v6.d. | |||
| Built on MoarVM version 2021.07. | |||
| [Coke] | That's rendering ok here. | ||
| is that a cut and paste? | |||
| aixylinux | I see here the copy/paste displays correctly. Thanks anyway, if it's a known issue, I can wait for a fix. | ||
| [Coke] | (with it looking bad on your screen?) | ||
| aixylinux | no it looks good in this window. (Chrome browser) | 20:34 | |
| [Coke] | I think the fix is "don't try to use that unicode on windows.". I think part of the issue is that windows unicode-aware fonts do not cover that character range. | ||
| aixylinux | Ah so desu ka. Thanks for your help. | 20:35 | |
| [Coke] | yup, github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/5e1c97bae6 seems to show it using ASCII if we detect we're on windows. | ||
| Hai. | 20:36 | ||
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| justsomeguy | /c/c | 22:43 | |
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