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| spacekookie | I managed to trace through the grammar and it kinda just seems like TOP is never executed. All other functions return what they're supposed to return and then it just ends | 00:01 | |
| MasterDuke | spacekookie: now is probably too late, but you could trying pinging moritz_ tomorrow. he's the grammar expert (literally wrote the raku book on grammars) | 00:04 | |
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| spacekookie | Oh cool! Thank you! | 00:05 | |
| I didn't know there was a raku book on grammars. That sounds like something I might want to read | |||
| MasterDuke | smile.amazon.com/dp/1484232275/ (link from raku.org/resources/) | 00:06 | |
| the book is good | 00:07 | ||
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| spacekookie | Awesome! Thank you :) | 00:08 | |
| I should probably go to bed too soon anyway x) Wanna be awake enough for the new yearsparty tomorrow | |||
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| Geth | doc: 6384364fc4 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/packages.pod6 Fixes error, closes #4004 |
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| linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/language/packages | ||
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| Geth | doc: 76a3d9f4e1 | (JJ Merelo)++ | META6.json Eliminates dep :arrow_down: |
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| systems | how to change where raku created the .raku/ folder by default? | 08:18 | |
| where the reply create it for example | |||
| i got it, i set $env:HOME = 'PATH' , its windows powershell thing | 08:39 | ||
| thanks to Jonathan Stowe on twitter 😉 | |||
| Geth | doc: 0b046f2e6b | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/modules.pod6 Fix broken link closes #3959 |
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| doc: 809b449f7f | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Type/Routine.pod6 Adds new routine to Routine and wraps, #4002 |
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| doc: 10d7d8398c | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Type/Telemetry.pod6 Adds new snap return value, refs #4002 |
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| linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/language/modules | ||
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| titsuki | m: say do { given (False, False) { when (True, True) { "same" }; default { "different" } } | 10:08 | |
| camelia | ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp> Missing block at <tmp>:1 ------> e) { "same" }; default { "different" } }⏏<EOL> |
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| titsuki | m: say do { given (False, False) { when (True, True) { "same" }; default { "different" } } } | ||
| camelia | same | ||
| titsuki | m: say (False, False) ~~ (True, True) | ||
| camelia | True | ||
| moon-child | m: say False ~~ True | 10:09 | |
| camelia | Potential difficulties: Smartmatch against True always matches; if you mean to test the topic for truthiness, use :so or *.so or ?* instead at <tmp>:1 ------> say False ~~ ⏏True True |
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| moon-child | ^ the culprit? | ||
| (though probably the previous code snippet should print a warning too) | |||
| titsuki | Thanks, I got it. | 10:10 | |
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| titsuki | m: say @(^10); my %h; %h{1;1} = @(^10); say %h{1;1}; | 10:17 | |
| camelia | (0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9) (0) |
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| titsuki | is this a bug? or is there any good ways to use a tuple as a hash key? | 10:19 | |
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| titsuki | m: say @(^10); my %h; %h{(1,1).join(";")} = @(^10); say %h{(1,1).join(";")}; # <- are there any solutions better than this way? | 10:35 | |
| camelia | (0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9) (0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9) |
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| lizmat | titsuki: two things: if you'd be using an object hash, that might have worked if Lists had been value types | 10:36 | |
| alas, they aren't | |||
| moon-child | how about a two-level hash? | 10:37 | |
| m: my %h; %h{1}{1} = @(^10); say %h{1}{1} | |||
| camelia | (0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9) | ||
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| lizmat | titsuki: maybe this can help: raku.land/zef:lizmat/Tuple | 10:37 | |
| titsuki | Thanks! I'll see this article | 10:38 | |
| article -> module | |||
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| Geth | doc: finanalyst++ created pull request #4005: Add filename extensions page |
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| guifa pokes codesections | 17:21 | ||
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| guifa | ugh I still can't think of a topic for FOSDEM. I've got some stuff planned for P&C but no real way to preview it / prep it in time for FOSDEM | 20:22 | |
| Anton Antonov | <guifa> Thanks for reminding me! I planning to post a proposal today. | 20:32 | |
| Here is a link to my Wolfram Community post "Connecting Mathematica and Raku" : community.wolfram.com/groups/-/m/t/2434981 . (I am not proposing that to FOSDEM...) | 20:33 | ||
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| guifa | Anton: going to take me a while to process all of that but very interested in it! My dad was a math professor although I think he used Maple more than Mathematica | 20:39 | |
| Anton Antonov | Maple! So, wrong!!! | 20:40 | |
| guifa | lol | ||
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| guifa | I've always thought it could be a cool demonstration of Raku's extensibility to make a module to extend Numeric to go beyond just complex numbers | 20:40 | |
| Anton Antonov | For my PhD studies in applied mathematics I did all my course work in all of these three languages/systems: Mathematica, Maple, MATLAB. | 20:41 | |
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| guifa | Like maybe some low hanging fruit could be somehow figuring out how to do n-roots losslessly, such that (√7)² == 7, just like (1/3) * 3 == 3 because of Rats | 20:42 | |
| Anton Antonov | Mathematica was a clear winner. | ||
| Yeah. Actually, it can be seen in the section "Encoders and decoders" in that post that Raku rationalizes the numbers given to it from Mathematica. Very few systems, except Mathematica can do that in a native way. | |||
| @guifa My FOSDEM proposal is extended version of this work: rakuforprediction.wordpress.com/20...with-raku/ | 20:44 | ||
| guifa | I <3 all things multilingual haha | 20:45 | |
| guifa . o O ( also reminds me my other other other other projects on localization frameworks ) | 20:46 | ||
| Anton Antonov | @guifa Yeah, good to know! Most like part of the Raku/Perl culture and cults, though. | 20:47 | |
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| I created a FOSDEM 2022 event titled "Multi-language Data Wrangling and Acquisition Conversational Agents". | 21:17 | ||
| moon-child | guifa: cas get hairy quickly. But I would still love to see something like that | 21:22 | |
| Anton Antonov | @moon-child Same here. In many ways I see Raku as the only potentially serious competitor of Mathematica. | 21:28 | |
| moon-child | competitor in what respect? | 21:29 | |
| I don't think anybody does all of things that mathematica does | |||
| and I think that, for every interesting thing that mathematica does, there is at least somebody else who does it too | |||
| guifa | moon-child yeah, a full CAS would be awesome, but overkill and almost certainly would be best just wrapping and passing to extant systems. | 21:36 | |
| But maybe with some work basic trig (possibly with π/τ, similar to how i works in complex numbers) and n-roots would add a lot of precision to every day ops | |||
| moon-child | even just with rational powers, checking equality gets hairy | 21:38 | |
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| [Coke]_ | hey, I got a raku book off my wishlist for the holidays. nifty | 21:50 | |
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| Geth | doc: 398d9591e3 | Coke++ | doc/Type/Routine.pod6 avoid neologism |
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| jjido | [Coke] you received it as gift? Nice | 21:55 | |
| Nemokosch | neologism? bruh | 21:59 | |
| not an appropriate use of the term I guess | 22:01 | ||
| [Coke] | sounded nicer than "made up word" | 22:04 | |
| basically, someone committed something without running the spell checker. | |||
| (could have also added it to the list of words if it was less neo) | 22:05 | ||
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| Ultimatt | Happy New Year (almost) | 22:14 | |
| I was wondering if there is any info on whats the best Rakudo build setup for ARM, specifically Apple M1 | |||
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| Anton Antonov | @moon-child "competitor in what respect?" -- Mathematical computations. | 22:51 | |
| @moon-chiled " I don't think anybody does all of things that mathematica does" -- agreed. Especially the synergy between symbolic and numerical computations is hard to replicate. | 22:52 | ||
| @moon-child "and I think that, for every interesting thing that mathematica does, there is at least somebody else who does it too" -- That is a claim many people make. I am not convinced. I have seen similar and inferior functionalities in other systems. | 22:54 | ||
| moon-child | cyc has the knowledge set. Maxima has the cas. Lisp has the symbolic manipulation and term-rewriting | 22:57 | |
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| gfldex pokes 2021 | 23:28 | ||
| It's dead, Jim. | |||
| Happy new Raku year! | |||
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| tbrowder | [Coke]_: which book did Santa give you? | 23:36 | |
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