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| andinus | is there a mojoliciuos-like for raku? | 05:37 | |
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| El_Che | Cro should be the closest | 08:07 | |
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| rindolf | hi all! what happened to TimToady ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Wall )? | 09:52 | |
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| Altreus | what do you mean? | 10:11 | |
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| Altreus | ugexe: I was hoping to do both :D | 10:12 | |
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| moritz_ | rindolf: I get the impression he mostly moved on from being the Perl/Raku BDFL | 11:05 | |
| rindolf | moritz_: ah | 11:06 | |
| moritz_: what is he up to now? | 11:07 | ||
| moritz_ | rindolf: I don't know. I try not to stalk my heros, and he hasn't come here and told us | ||
| rindolf | moritz_: stalk? is that what you call "caring about"? | 11:08 | |
| fine, i'll email him | |||
| El_Che | rindolf: don't take it like that. moritz_ is not attacking you | 11:09 | |
| moritz_ | rindolf: if 5 people do it, it's caring. If 2000 do it, it's stalking. I don't consider myself close enough to Larry to be one of 5 | 11:10 | |
| rindolf | email has become unreliable though w all the spam and anti-spam | ||
| lizmat | FWIW, I don't think Larry reads his email | ||
| rindolf | moritz_: ok | ||
| moritz_ | don't let that stop you though, you have to judge for yourself how close you feel | ||
| rindolf | moritz_: thanks | ||
| lizmat: that sucks, but i'll try anyway | 11:11 | ||
| lizmat | rindolf: I was not saying you shouldn't try, I was just saying: don't be disappointed if you do not get a response | 11:12 | |
| rindolf | lizmat: ok... | ||
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| lizmat | weekly: news.perlfoundation.org/post/commu...march-2021 | 11:27 | |
| notable6 | lizmat, Noted! (weekly) | ||
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| Altreus | lizmat: "Suggestion was made to add a 'donate now' button was made | 11:35 | |
| " | |||
| :) | |||
| lizmat | yeah, a Raku Foundation site would need to have that working *properly* | 11:36 | |
| Altreus | I was commenting on the repetition of "was made" | 11:39 | |
| it would appear to be a thinko | |||
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| demostanis[m] | Which architectures does Rakudo support? | 13:18 | |
| jdv79 | not as many as perl i suspect | 13:31 | |
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| El_Che | demostanis[m]: propably the archs where libuv runs | 13:33 | |
| Altreus | OOP *and* functional! | 13:39 | |
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| codesections | interesting. It appears that there's some turnover in the technical leadership for our sister language, Perl: perl.topicbox.com/groups/perl-core...f9e069641f | 14:03 | |
| leont | libuv is more about platforms, and less about architectures | 14:09 | |
| El_Che | leont: I am schooled now :) | ||
| leont | With architectures, the question is more about on which architectures we can jit | ||
| demostanis[m] | leont: And which are they? | 14:12 | |
| MasterDuke | right now, just x86. we just on arm, but don't jit there (though that has meant less and less for performance as spesh gets more and more capable) | 14:13 | |
| *run on arm | |||
| demostanis[m] | What's spesh? | 14:19 | |
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| MasterDuke | the moarvm dynamic optimizer that kind of slots inbetween the interpreter and the jit. it optimizes/re-writes the running program based on information it sees, but doesn't generate machine code like the jit does | 14:23 | |
| jnthn's blog posts are the place to go for more information if curious. 6guts.wordpress.com/ | 14:24 | ||
| parv | does anyone have an idea about the size of rakudo + moarvm if everything were statically compiled to the extent possible? | 14:26 | |
| that would be on amd64 | 14:27 | ||
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| lizmat | PSA: this week's Rakudo Weekly News will most likely be published on Tuesday this week, due to a planning snafu and other stuff happening | 15:06 | |
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| sena_kun | lizmat, take care! | 16:14 | |
| lizmat | yeah, I am... | ||
| just not enough time available due to some unexpected online and offline events | 16:15 | ||
| on top of not having any time after 8pm tonight | 16:16 | ||
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| tonyo | vrurg: i need to add some more logging stuff, i'm having trouble replicating the removal problem | 16:40 | |
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| codesections | does the `use trace` pragma not work in modules? It works fine in my .raku files, but doesn't seem to have any effect in a .rakumod file | 17:11 | |
| lizmat | I don't think it works with pre-comped files | 17:22 | |
| maybe add a "no precompilation" or some such ? | |||
| "use trace" will actually codegen the tracing into the bytecode | 17:23 | ||
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| codesections | lizmat++ thanks, that did the trick. | 17:47 | |
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| vrurg | tonyo: but I'm not mistaken about 24hr window, am I? | 19:20 | |
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| guifa realized he hadn’t been connected to IRC in a long time. Gives it 25% chance he has a message from tellbot waiting | 19:28 | ||
| 75% right! | |||
| patrickb | guifa: Someone recently (last 4 days or so) asked about the state of the binary grammar project. | 19:36 | |
| guifa | Ah, yeah, Brad posted a long (and great, as always) comment on the original proposal’s gist | 19:37 | |
| patrickb | colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_lo...04-07#l178 | ||
| guifa | Or at least, that’s probably what caused him to go back to look at it at least. | ||
| samebchase: I’m pausing work on binary grammars until RakuAST at the moment — I was able to inline things rather nicely, but while I *could* finish it up with embedded code, normal variable interpolation, etc, all of the work would need to be redone for RakuAST | 19:39 | ||
| samebchase: however, if you’ve got any ideas or feedback for the project in general, definitely take a look at gist.github.com/alabamenhu/2fec7a8...4a2ae2f04d | 19:40 | ||
| patrickb++ : thanks for heads up! | 19:41 | ||
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| tonyo | vrurg: you're not. i found the bug and should be fixed now | 20:01 | |
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| vrurg | tonyo++ | 20:25 | |
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| tonyo | if you want i can remove that manually vrurg - not sure how critical it is | 20:56 | |
| MasterDuke | tonyo: btw, did you see github.com/tony-o/perl6-slang-sql/pull/10? | 20:57 | |
| vrurg | tonyo: not critical. Somehow release tarball included a file from the previous release. Don't think anybody would use it as I published the next release already. | 21:00 | |
| [Coke] | Anyone interested in working on a .NET backend for nqp? Every time I start looking at it I get distracted, or wonder "how the hell can I...". Having someone else to chat with would help both ways. | 21:02 | |
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| tonyo | vrurg: i'll let it be then - just merged pull/10 | 21:34 | |
| MasterDuke | thanks | 21:36 | |
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| tonyo | thank you for the pr | 22:10 | |
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