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| japhb | softmoth: Failed to pass tests | 00:00 | |
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| edds | im sasha | 00:01 | |
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| japhb | softmoth: gist.github.com/japhb/1a0748d8a82d...6ce2fe329d | 00:02 | |
| edds | here no sign up button) | 00:05 | |
| how it works? | |||
| japhb | .ask timotimo Can you merge github.com/timo/json_fast/pull/73 ? | 00:07 | |
| tellable6 | japhb, I'll pass your message to timotimo | ||
| japhb | edds: Sign up for what? | ||
| softmoth | japhb, thanks. What version of rakudo are you using? | 00:16 | |
| japhb | softmoth: v2021.04-10-gbb069a99c | 00:20 | |
| softmoth | OK, I've been on 2021.02.1, I may need to check the latest. I may need to adapt to CompUnit::Repository changes, or maybe I just need to ignore any Repository that is `not .can('read-dist')` | 00:21 | |
| ugexe | yeah you shouldnt be using read-dist | 00:22 | |
| softmoth | ugexe, OK. My goal is to list "resources" for a dist. I got the dist from .candidates() | 00:23 | |
| ugexe | thats fine. what are you calling read-dist for? | 00:24 | |
| softmoth | not just "resources" but any files | ||
| It is a LazyDistribution | |||
| and I can't get anything from it. | |||
| IIRC | |||
| m: (.read-dist()(.dist-id).raku.put with $*REPO.next-repo.candidates("rakudoc").head).<files>.keys | 00:25 | ||
| camelia | Type Slip does not support associative indexing. in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| softmoth | :> $*REPO.next-repo.candidates("rakudoc").head | 00:27 | |
| CompUnit::Repository::Installation::LazyDistribution.new(dist-id => "988DBA7F826D57FAEEE3344CC021AB3A40D55432", read-dist => -> $_ { #`(Block|91308736) ... }, meta => ${:api(v1), :auth("github:Raku"), :checksum(Str), :source(Any), :ver(v0.2.3)}, prefix => IO::Path.new("/opt/raku/versions/moar-2021.02.1/install/share/perl6/site", :SPEC(IO::Spec::Unix), :CWD("/home/trs/g/raku/rakudoc"))) | |||
| I get that OK. But I don't know how to get to "files" and "resources" from there. | |||
| ugexe | say CompUnit::RepositoryRegistry.repository-for-name("site").candidates("Zef").head.meta<resources> | ||
| evalable6 | Nil | ||
| ugexe | works fine | ||
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| softmoth | Well I'll be. I could swear it was not, but it is! | 00:29 | |
| ugexe, thanks for that, I'll switch immediately | 00:30 | ||
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| edds | japhb how you recognize each other? | 00:51 | |
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| japhb | edds: Do you mean recognizing who is who on #raku in IRC? Registered nicknames on Freenode. | 01:18 | |
| edds | japhb but im just type random and hit enter | 01:19 | |
| are you know about difference with matrix? | 01:20 | ||
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| japhb | edds: Oh, yeah, by default IRC allows anyone to use an unregistered nickname; you register in order to reserve a name as just-for-you. | 01:20 | |
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| sasha | 🦋 | 01:25 | |
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| what ist this | |||
| oh its india symbol | 01:29 | ||
| this languages called 'scripts' | 01:31 | ||
| why | |||
| japhb | sasha: In what context? For example, in programming language use, a script is a (usually) small program. In Unicode use, a script is a set of symbols used to write a language. | 01:34 | |
| sasha | japhb oh), i mean en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devanagari | ||
| japhb | Yeah, that's the Unicode/typographical meaning. | 01:36 | |
| sasha | im not competent in this | 01:37 | |
| japhb | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing_system | ||
| sasha | i think this language absolytley beutiful en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_scripts | 01:38 | |
| i saw it recentley in ytubecomment so cool | 01:39 | ||
| japhb | Yeah, there are some really beautiful scripts. Humans, what can't they do, eh? :-) | 01:41 | |
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| sasha | so why you not using matrix ? | 01:42 | |
| hm | 01:45 | ||
| pictographic script | |||
| ideographic script | |||
| analytic transitional script | |||
| phonetic script | |||
| alphabetic script | |||
| every lang is script | |||
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| japhb | Those are broad classes of scripts, yes. | 01:46 | |
| IRC predates matrix by literal decades. :-) | |||
| sasha | it has stickers and reactions and quick reply | 01:47 | |
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| sasha | and looks different | 01:47 | |
| moon-child | all those sound like good reasons to avoid matrix | 01:48 | |
| sasha | looks like telegram | ||
| support payments too as im right | 01:49 | ||
| decentralized telegram) | |||
| but its same thing on first look | |||
| this and matrix i think | 01:50 | ||
| i mean* | |||
| not matrix im talk about element | |||
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| sasha | has calls and video calls and notifications | 01:51 | |
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| moon-child | why, it just gets worse and worse! | 01:52 | |
| sasha | security tweaks looks advanced | ||
| its just compare | |||
| dont hate it) | |||
| its can be good features for usual user | 01:53 | ||
| oh | 01:55 | ||
| i cant send file here | |||
| moon-child | sure you can | 01:56 | |
| dcc | |||
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| sasha | what? | 01:56 | |
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| sasha | element more juicier for features | 01:58 | |
| moon-child | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Client-to-Client | ||
| sasha | how to do it here | ||
| also i find this keybase.io/ | 02:01 | ||
| not tried but it works in onion | 02:02 | ||
| and they show you how they send bank card photos | |||
| super secure | 02:03 | ||
| c: | |||
| committable6 | sasha, I cannot recognize this command. See wiki for some examples: github.com/Raku/whateverable/wiki/Committable | ||
| sasha | committable6 youu scared me , bot | 02:04 | |
| volafile.org/r/1t186r01c | 02:09 | ||
| here interface of element #im not mine monero | 02:10 | ||
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| sasha | im changed message layout to irc mode | 02:10 | |
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| lizmat clickbaits rakudoweekly.blog/2021/05/03/2021-...ble-comma/ | 09:28 | ||
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| softmoth | Hi! I'm looking for more user testing on rakudoc, if anyone has a few minutes to try it and let me know how it works for you: zef update; zef install rakudoc --verbose | 15:08 | |
| ugexe | you can make zef update automatically with the --update flag | 15:12 | |
| zef install rakudoc --verbose --update | |||
| at least i think that still works lol | |||
| softmoth | thank you | 15:19 | |
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| raydiak | softmoth_: gist.github.com/raydiak/9c3e0352ed...d2d019570b | 17:14 | |
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| raydiak | doubt it matters but fwiw I'm running manjaro on a ryzen 5 | 17:18 | |
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| softmoth_ | raydiak, thanks, the test case is brittle. I appreciate your feedback, I'll sort that out. | 17:42 | |
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| raydiak | you're welcome, happy to help. thanks for your work on rakudoc | 17:44 | |
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| softmoth | I plan to implement fetching docs directly from github (to avoid the heavy dependencies of the current Raku/doc distribution), too. Currently it's of limited use unless you explictly set "RAKUDOC=/path/to/doc/doc" in the environment. | 17:47 | |
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| raydiak | we still have all the generation of svgs and html and everything packed into the same project as the actual docs? | 17:49 | |
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| tbrowder | hi, looking for advice on new module naming | 17:52 | |
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| softmoth | raydiak, yes, I've not been part of any discussions on that, but I know it's been desired for a long time to split it out | 17:53 | |
| I assume there's some non-trivial work needed for some reason | 17:54 | ||
| tbrowder | the primary purpose of the module is to convert from the Gregorian calendar dates (as used by DateTime) to other calendars | ||
| i'm considering such names as MultiCalendar, DateTime::Calendars, ... | 17:55 | ||
| raydiak | softmoth: definitely seems like a gross failure of separation between code and data, I'm a bit shocked it didn't happen years ago | ||
| tbrowder: I like DateTime::Calendars more between those two. though if it's only mainly for conversion and not other operations, also maybe DateTime::Convert or ::Converter or something along those lines | 17:57 | ||
| softmoth | tbrowder, maybe a less generic name would be helpful; many things might be a MultiCalendar or a Calendars, while your function is quite specific. | ||
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| softmoth | It's probably too cute but something like DateTime::Ex::Gregorian | 17:59 | |
| Just my first thought, I'm sure your choice will be fine. | |||
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| raydiak | if the other calendars you support are regional/cultural not e.g. astronomical/academic, maybe DateTime::International? if we're talking about what season it is on Mars then maybe DateTime::Interplanetry, ::Interstellar, ::Intergalactic, ::Universal or ::Multiversal depending on the scope of the implementation :) | 18:11 | |
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| CIAvash | tbrowder: Are you aware of the modules created by JFORGET: modules.raku.org/search/?q=Date%3A%3ACalendar | 18:33 | |
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| tbrowder | CIAvash: arg, i forgot...thanks for the reminder! | 18:44 | |
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| tbrowder | ok, those save a lot of work! | 18:55 | |
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| geth_ | doc/3517-word-variants: 37c97ae1b7 | (Stoned Elipot)++ | xt/word-variants.t Search/test for the word 'boolean', ref #3517 ... as it should be written 'Boolean'. This word variant test is all about case, thus the %variants hash now contains Regex values with the case-insensitive adverb when applicable. |
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| doc: stoned++ created pull request #3880: Search/test for the word 'boolean', ref #3517 |
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| Shaeto | Hi, a simple question: can I use action method for the root proto token (proto token test {*}) ? i want to process all variants in one method | 20:01 | |
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| geth_ | doc: 37c97ae1b7 | (Stoned Elipot)++ | xt/word-variants.t Search/test for the word 'boolean', ref #3517 ... as it should be written 'Boolean'. This word variant test is all about case, thus the %variants hash now contains Regex values with the case-insensitive adverb when applicable. |
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| doc: f94b7c206b | (Will Coleda)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | xt/word-variants.t Merge pull request #3880 from Raku/3517-word-variants Search/test for the word 'boolean', ref #3517 |
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| [Coke] | stoned75++ | ||
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| geth_ | doc: a3ac312eac | Coke++ | doc/Programs/03-environment-variables.pod6 prefer Boolean Closes #3517 |
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| stoned75 | thanks, my pleasure | 20:22 | |
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| tbrowder | ref calendars again, jforget's modules are great, but more detailed than what mine will be. i'm using E.G. Richards' system which uses an arithmetic conversion to/from an artificial calendar to convert dates of y/m/d between 15 calendars. just for some raku fun! | 20:47 | |
| so i still need a naming system for the set... | 20:49 | ||
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| tbrowder | CalendarConversions <= the name of the chapter detailing the mathematics | 20:56 | |
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| geth_ | doc: 4c12a38828 | (Stoned Elipot)++ | xt/word-variants.t Remove a leftover parenthesis and a trailing space |
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| doc: c63401bd32 | (Stoned Elipot)++ | xt/word-variants.t Search/test for 'sub-directories' ... as 'subdirectories' is (probably) prefered |
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| doc: 11a2a158b2 | (Stoned Elipot)++ | doc/Language/about.pod6 'subdirectories' is prefered over 'sub-directories' |
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