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| mykhal | gfldex: timtowdi, howewer requirement was rather to avid variables, than to have "this" | 06:21 | |
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| mykhal | .. s/avid/avoid/ | 06:26 | |
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| nahita | hi! i wonder why `+flat $(12, 84)` gives 2 but not 1... | 08:11 | |
| m: say +flat $(12, 84); | 08:12 | ||
| camelia | 2 | ||
| nahita | m: .say for flat $(12, 84) | 08:13 | |
| camelia | 12 84 |
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| mykhal | nahita: hi. i wonder why would you expect 1. List in numeric context gives its length | 08:50 | |
| nahita | I expected it not to be flattened since it's itemized and therefore gave 1. | 08:56 | |
| m: .say for flat ($(12, 84),) | 08:57 | ||
| camelia | (12 84) | ||
| nahita | `flat` respects it when in a list but why not above? | 08:58 | |
| mykhal | i probably miss something | 09:01 | |
| m: say $(12, 84).elems | |||
| camelia | 2 | ||
| nahita | m: .say for $(12, 84) | 09:02 | |
| camelia | (12 84) | ||
| nahita | m: .say for ($(12, 84),) | 09:04 | |
| camelia | (12 84) | ||
| mykhal | so you see | 09:05 | |
| nahita | no :) | ||
| mykhal | m: say ((1, 2), 3).flat | ||
| camelia | (1 2 3) | ||
| mykhal | m: say ($(1, 2), 3).flat | 09:07 | |
| camelia | ((1 2) 3) | ||
| mykhal | interesting. | 09:08 | |
| m: say $(1, 2).^name eq (1, 2).^name | |||
| camelia | True | ||
| mykhal | well, ok, it's somewhat more complicated than i thoughtd, will comment no more :) | 09:09 | |
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| mykhal | .. only that i think its meant not to flatten being item, not a whole "container" | 09:15 | |
| m: say ( +flat( [1, 2] ), +flat( [[1, 2], 3] ) ) | 09:19 | ||
| camelia | (2 2) | ||
| nahita | not sure I follow *"its meant not to flatten being item, not a whole "container"*; can you please elaborate? | 09:33 | |
| mykhal | "When you have a list that contains sub-lists, but you only want one flat list, you may flatten the list to produce a sequence of values as if all parentheses were removed. This works no matter how many levels deep the parentheses are nested.", from docs. It's talking about sub-lists | 09:35 | |
| nahita | I see; but itemized sublists are immune to flattening, right? But behaviour seems to change when passed directly to `flat` as `flat $(12, 84)` and I'm unable to see why... | 09:39 | |
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| mykhal | it does not treat the same the outer list-ish, "Interprets the invocant as a list, flattens non-containerized Iterables into a flat list, and returns that list." | 09:54 | |
| i wouldn't like/expect flatteing [[1, 2], 3] to ( [[1, 2], 3], ) | 09:55 | ||
| but frankly i initially wouldn't expect different treatment of innter list vs arrays as well :) | 09:59 | ||
| nahita | So it first calls `.List` on the argument and then flattens? | 10:12 | |
| (or `.list`; i don't know the difference) | 10:13 | ||
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| mykhal | nahita: something like that.. if it's an iterable, it iterates it, Iterable.pm6: method flat(Iterable:D:) { Seq.new(Rakudo::Iterator.Flat(self.iterator)) } | 10:30 | |
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| nahita | Thx; I also reached that and Rakudo::Iterator.Flat has some nqp stuff that I don't understand. What confuses me is: | 10:32 | |
| m: .say for $(12, 84) | |||
| camelia | (12 84) | ||
| nahita | iterates once... | ||
| mykhal | i can see 2 elems | 10:33 | |
| lizmat | but they're in a container :-) | ||
| m: .say for (12,84) | |||
| camelia | 12 84 |
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| lizmat | m: .say for $(12,84) | ||
| camelia | (12 84) | ||
| lizmat | well, I should say, they're itemized | ||
| mykhal | i thout we were talking about the outer iterable | 10:34 | |
| these items ate treated different weay than the original iterable | 10:36 | ||
| mykhal did not notice lizmat speaking now | 10:38 | ||
| nahita | I understand/expect `.say for $(12, 84)` to iterate once. What I don't understand/expect is why `.say for flat $(12, 84)` iterates twice but not once? How can `flat` flattens an itemized list? | ||
| lizmat | that's the idea of flat ? | 10:39 | |
| nahita | But it respects when `$(12, 84)` is in a list | ||
| m: .say for ($(12, 84),) | 10:40 | ||
| camelia | (12 84) | ||
| nahita | m: .say for flat ($(12, 84),) | 10:41 | |
| camelia | (12 84) | ||
| mykhal | m: say $(12, 84).raku; say ($(12, 84),).raku | 10:43 | |
| camelia | $(12, 84) ($(12, 84),) |
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| mykhal | crap | 10:44 | |
| m: say $(12, 84).flat.raku; say ($(12, 84),).flat.raku | |||
| camelia | (12, 84).Seq ($(12, 84),).Seq |
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| mykhal | consistent, if one does not expect flat to be classical recursive function | 10:47 | |
| nahita | it is recursive though, isn't it | ||
| mykhal | yes, but starting in top of items, not the whole arg | 10:49 | |
| .. but that is also misleading statement | |||
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| mykhal | it does recursively flatten the items, but flat is not flatten | 11:10 | |
| and Raku is not Haskell :) | 11:13 | ||
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| alex16 | Uploaded file: uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/232a733b...-13-16.png | 11:50 | |
| Help brother | |||
| MasterDuke | alex16: it looks like whatever os your phone is running doesn't have the dev package for openssl. i don't know if there's a way to exclude packages and/or modules with rstar, but you could always just install rakudo by itself, then manually install zef + modules | 11:55 | |
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| alex79 | Help me failed build | 12:00 | |
| Uploaded file: uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/889fcc5d...pasted.txt | |||
| MasterDuke | alex79: i'd suggest downloading rakudo.org/dl/rakudo/rakudo-2021.07.tar.gz instead of rakudo-star and trying that first | ||
| alex79 | Android 6.0 aarch64 | ||
| MasterDuke | people have built rakudo on other aarch64 systems (e.g., rpi4), so it's likely possible | 12:01 | |
| you'll probably need something like `apt install build-essentials` first (i don't know what the actual package name is) | 12:02 | ||
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| alex79 | what is the command to install it, I have extracted the file? | 12:08 | |
| MasterDuke | something like `perl Configure.pl --backends=moar --gen-moar --make-install` | 12:09 | |
| you can add a `--prefix=path/to/somewhere` if you want to install it to a particular directory | 12:10 | ||
| alex79 | fatal: not in a git directory | 12:16 | |
| MasterDuke | but it should still start building, right? | 12:20 | |
| alex79 | currently installing moarvm | 12:23 | |
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| alex79 | MasterDuke currently installing moarvm | 12:25 | |
| MasterDuke | it'll probably take a while | 12:26 | |
| alex79 | Updating submodules .................................... warning: Cannot protect .git/config on this file system - do not store sensitive information here. | ||
| Uploaded file: uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/fc647552...pasted.txt | 12:27 | ||
| How? | |||
| Util | alex79: Sanity check - Are you able to create+compile+run a C program in the directories where you are trying to build Rakudo? | 12:31 | |
| Good example to try: rosettacode.org/wiki/Hello_world/Newbie#C | |||
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| alex67 | MasterDuke How? | 12:46 | |
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| alex80 | someone help me how to install rakudo in termux i've been trying since morning looking for a solution | 13:20 | |
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| tonyo | does your excellent termux have perl? | 14:35 | |
| MasterDuke | i was helping them a bit, i believe their latest problem is that where they were trying to build was mounted noexec | 14:40 | |
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| nahita | mykhal: if it's already flat, `flat` doesn't flatten in effect yes. But `$(12, 84)` isn't flat on its own, right? And it also doesn't get flatten if it is an element of a list instead of directly supplying to `flat`. | 15:50 | |
| s/isn't flat on its own/is flat on its own/ | 16:05 | ||
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| mykhal | tonyo: my termux (not sure if excellent) has perl 5.34. after installing perl. | 16:58 | |
| tonyo | what's the output of running the perl Configure.pl stuff in the readme? | 17:01 | |
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| Summer | is doing /<$userinput>/; equiv to doing an eval on user input, in terms of potential damage? | 19:46 | |
| gfldex | m: my $input = '{ say "hello haxor!" }'; say 'ohai' ~~ /<$input>/; | 19:48 | |
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling /home/camelia/EVAL_0 Prohibited regex interpolation (use the MONKEY-SEE-NO-EVAL pragma to override this error but only if you're VERY sure your data contains no injection attacks). at /home/camelia/EVAL… |
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| gfldex | Summer: not quite on its own | ||
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| Summer | thats fairly neato | 19:49 | |
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| Geth | doc/py-nutshell-enumerate-patch: 1f990b6fed | (Trey Harris)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/py-nutshell.pod6 py-nutshell: Add how to enumerate in iteration Resolves #3924. Modified from suggestion in issue to include `kv()`’s other use case in maps, matching Python’s `dict.items()`. |
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| doc: treyharris++ created pull request #3925: py-nutshell: Add how to enumerate in iteration |
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| japhb | tbrowder: JSON::Hjson added as a decoder-only module to github.com/japhb/serializer-perf -- it's a lot slower than JSON::Fast at decoding the JSON subset of Hjson, but that's to be expected from JSON::Hjson's idiomatic Grammar-driven design; probably would be more fair to compare to JSON::Tiny than JSON::Fast. | 23:22 | |
| (Where "a lot slower" was 5-30x slower on my particular JSON test cases.) | 23:23 | ||
| tbrowder | japhb: thanks, and i'm not surprised. i do find it useful for config files. | 23:26 | |
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