🦋 Welcome to the MAIN() IRC channel of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org). This channel is logged for the purpose of keeping a history about its development | evalbot usage: 'm: say 3;' or /msg camelia m: ... | Log inspection is getting closer to beta. If you're a beginner, you can also check out the #raku-beginner channel! Set by lizmat on 25 August 2021. |
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El_Che | new release? | 10:46 | |
lizmat | yes | 10:47 | |
jdv++ | 10:48 | ||
El_Che | ok, building packages in a test run (not yet uploaded) | 10:49 | |
github.com/nxadm/rakudo-pkg/action...1836565855 | 10:50 | ||
now building the packages to be uploaded to repos | 11:04 | ||
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El_Che | weekly: rakudo-pkg 2022.02 released | 11:58 | |
notable6 | El_Che, Noted! (weekly) | ||
Voldenet | NativeCall question: if I have `struct Pair { int* a; int* b; }` and method `struct Pair Something() {…}`, can I somehow access that? | 11:59 | |
lizmat | El_Che++ | 12:13 | |
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Voldenet | s/method/function/ | 12:21 | |
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[Coke] | still working on that bisect on windows. near the end, ran into a different issue where zef install is saying "extraction ok" and then just stopping. hopefully I can still get to the root of the original issue with these skips. | 14:03 | |
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[Coke] | also: when using chrome remot desktop to open a connection to my mac to run tmux with irssi in it... hitting control w to delete a word does not have the intended effect. I have done this dozens of times over this weekend, oops. (almost just did it againt in this send.) | 14:04 | |
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MasterDuke | [Coke]: btw, rakudo does have a `--force-rebuild` option | 14:10 | |
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gfldex | Is there a way to create a custom type that plays well with single arg slurpies? | 16:12 | |
context: gist.github.com/3875e79bc8c9225c0b...a2cf8cc820 | 16:13 | ||
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nine | Voldenet: access what? | 16:36 | |
Voldenet | fields inside a struct returned through stack | 16:54 | |
Geth | setup-raku/dependabot/npm_and_yarn/ajv-6.12.6: 9a02fcbc6d | dependabot[bot]++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | package-lock.json Bump ajv from 6.12.2 to 6.12.6 Bumps [ajv](github.com/ajv-validator/ajv) from 6.12.2 to 6.12.6. - [Release notes](github.com/ajv-validator/ajv/releases) - [Commits](github.com/ajv-validator/ajv/compa.....v6.12.6) --- ... (6 more lines) |
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nine | Voldenet: in that specific example, you may be able to access Pair.a via trickery. But in general NativeCall doesn't support this use case yet. You may have to use a wrapper library written in C that puts this structure onto the heap and returns a pointer | 16:58 | |
Voldenet | Yeah, that's the workaround I use | ||
malloc, memcpy and pointer | |||
…and the trickery would be using int64 I suppose | 16:59 | ||
or Pointer | |||
nine | exactly | ||
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guifa | nine++ ty for the CLDR PR btw | 17:39 | |
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guifa | lizmat: with RAST's maturation, will traits be passed compiled stuff or will they have access to the RAST? Or will there potentially be a different way to get at the AST? (maybe a different trait_mod keyword?) | 17:43 | |
lizmat | guifa: good question... | 17:44 | |
I have no idea, really | |||
I guess initially jnthn will want to go for the least amount of change | |||
so I don't think you'll be able to do more then | 17:45 | ||
and once there are macros, some of the trait_mod stuff may be obsolete anyway | |||
guifa | Yeah, OT1H, keeping them receiving compiled won't break anything. OTOH, there's some really cool stuff one could do accessing the AST | ||
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guifa was just thinking about JS's old asm.js, using a subset of JS that can be hyper optimized, and how Raku might pull off similar | 17:51 | ||
lizmat | you're thinking something akin to miniperl ? | 17:54 | |
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El_Che | mini? think micro! www.foo.be/docs/tpj/issues/vol5_3/...-0003.html :) | 18:05 | |
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guifa | lizmat effectively. I mean, as per usual for me, I'm thinking about teh cool factor, but there will always be utility in teh cool | 18:28 | |
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[Coke] | MasterDuke: it never seems to be doing what I want, though. :) Will double check. | 20:06 | |
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El_Che | [Coke]: you need to tell it what you want, what you really, really want. | 20:28 | |
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Nemokosch | Who is this raiph? 🥴 | 21:17 | |
Anyway, I can be informal or overly formal if need be, since this is no place for personal drama, let me just say: as long as the participants of discussions don't know each other, let's respect the others' effort when writing comments and stay away from stackoverflow-quality 2 liners | 21:24 | ||
guifa | Nemokosch: what's this in reference to? That raiph would write a 2liner seems… very out of character | 21:36 | |
guifa used to think he was long winded until he saw raiph's chapter-long answers to questions | |||
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Nemokosch | it's about a Raku issue I opened a couple of days ago and CodeSections suspended after a tangent between raiph and me | 21:42 | |
Hell, I still wanted to reply to something meaningful... this raiph could have just stayed away | 21:44 | ||
Geth | setup-raku/dependabot/npm_and_yarn/node-fetch-2.6.7: ac5102d34a | dependabot[bot]++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | package-lock.json Bump node-fetch from 2.6.1 to 2.6.7 Bumps [node-fetch](github.com/node-fetch/node-fetch) from 2.6.1 to 2.6.7. - [Release notes](github.com/node-fetch/node-fetch/releases) - [Commits](github.com/node-fetch/node-fetch/c......v2.6.7) --- ... (6 more lines) |
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ugexe | i think maybe if you had given them more than day they might have followed through on their original commitment of replying in a thorough manner. two sentences from raiph are generally followed by 20+ more | 21:50 | |
Nemokosch | I'm not setting any deadlines for anyone | 21:54 | |
ugexe | You were implying he needed to respond with something you found meaningful, and the fact he had not done so already had upset you | 21:56 | |
Nemokosch | On the other hand, I do find it disrespectful that people are making effort in order to investigate something and you just go there to post something irrelevant | ||
so no, he didn't need to respond in the first place | 21:57 | ||
ugexe | you are tilting at windmills | ||
Nemokosch | but if he does, it should hit some minimal niveau just out of respect, in my opinion | 21:58 | |
and what are those windmills? | |||
that someone responds on topic? | |||
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[Coke] | Is there a URL to review for this? | 22:05 | |
Nemokosch | well, do you want to review this? | 22:09 | |
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Geth | doc: codesections++ created pull request #4035: Remove incorrect text & non-compiling example |
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[Coke] | Someone's already provided the URL in private chat, thanks. | 22:21 | |
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lucs | Is there a channel dedicated to Comma IDE? | 22:38 | |
MasterDuke | i forget whether #comma is a thing also, but a bunch of the comma devs are in #cro | 22:46 | |
though this is getting a bit late in the night since most are in europe, you might have better luck tomorrow | 22:49 | ||
lucs | Aha, cool, thanks. | 22:50 | |
Geth | setup-raku: ac5102d34a | dependabot[bot]++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | package-lock.json Bump node-fetch from 2.6.1 to 2.6.7 Bumps [node-fetch](github.com/node-fetch/node-fetch) from 2.6.1 to 2.6.7. - [Release notes](github.com/node-fetch/node-fetch/releases) - [Commits](github.com/node-fetch/node-fetch/c......v2.6.7) --- ... (6 more lines) |
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setup-raku: 318cc82a3c | (Shoichi Kaji)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | package-lock.json Merge pull request #19 from Raku/dependabot/npm_and_yarn/node-fetch-2.6.7 Bump node-fetch from 2.6.1 to 2.6.7 |
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Geth | doc: codesections++ created pull request #4036: minor tweak to make xt/aspell's output better/less verbose |
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