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masak greetings from Lisbon! 16:14
I'm writing my Web.pm presentation for YAPC::EU as we speak. 16:15
Tene :D 16:39
what's the main focus of the presentation?
masak well, after a fast-paced introduction to both the Web and Perl 6, I focus on the tools developed in Web.pm already, how they fit together, the plans for the future, and how the Web.pm project is a bit like a miniature of the Perl 6 project. 16:45
Tene like Perl 6 in that one third of the project has left entirely and another third hasn't contributed in months, leaving one person to do all the work? 16:46
perl6:web::jnthn:masak ? 16:47
;)
masak I'm very flattered by that summary, but I don't feel it's entirely accurate. :) 16:48
Tene Of course not. If I started being accurate now, I'd be expected to continue being accurate in the future.
:P
masak yeah, we wouldn't want that. :P
Tene you get that astaire thing together enough to demo? 16:49
masak hm, no.
but I might still be able to.
Tene want me to work on that?
masak oh yes! 16:50
please do.
Tene That is, if I get something usable, will it be useful to you in your presentation?
masak if arthur-_ turns up, please co-ordinate with him.
Tene: anything's useful.
arthur-_ poy
masak being able to stand on stage and say "yah, we haz dat" is useful in itself.
arthur-_: \\o/
ok, so I'm going to try to get the spectest gizmo working now. that would be useful for everyone, I think. 16:51
arthur-_ for astaire, I need working basic Web::Request and Web::Response
masak arthur-_: right.
Tene Huh. outbound HTTP is failing here again. My ISP is made of FAIL lately.
arthur-_ can't go further without
masak arthur-_: I'll try to have a look at that today also.
Tene I thought we had those? 16:52
arthur-_ masak: cool
masak they should work.
I know I've used them.
maybe they bitrotted slightly.
arthur-_: I'm amazed and happy with the way you've picked up the project. sorry I haven't been around more this week to respond to your pull request. 16:53
arthur-_ masak: np, i had a lot of works
masak lucky for me. :) 16:54
arthur-_ i'm a lot more excited about doing mor mvc stuff, but as we're not there yet, astaire is a fun enough project :)
Tene arthur-_: should I know or recognize you? have we met?
arthur-_ Tene: nope
masak indeed.
Tene Oh. In that case, hi!
masak I will need all the help/guidance I can get on MVC, so that's good.
arthur-_ Tene: hi :)
Tene I've made the mistake of repeatedly re-introducing myself to people I should remember several times in the past. >.> 16:55
masak Tene: arthur-_ approached me a week or so ago, wanting to hack on Astaire.
arthur-_ ^^
masak Tene, arthur-_: you could have a look at spec/astaire.pod and t/spec/astaire/hello-world.t -- if you haven't already. 16:57
if I get the smartlinks working today, I'll likely blog about it and call that Web.pm week 12.
I've got them working! \\o/ 17:04
arthur-_ :)
masak now, that was easy :)
I should probably put it online on feather, so that people can come and watch. 17:05
I'll let you know as soon as I have something up on feather. 17:08
oh, oh. Tene, arthur-_: are you still there? 17:28
Tene I am.
kinda.
my net connectivity is horrible right now.
masak I'd like to ask you both to send me a picture of yourselves using this tool: www.sp-studio.de/ 17:29
if I get them before Wednesday, I can use them in the presentation.
Tene I'll see if I can get it to load...
masak I'll send you all an email, because I need to reach ihrd anyway. 17:30
Tene why that tool?
what does it do?
masak it builds pictures of people using "South Park"-inspired primitives. 17:31
Tene okay, I'll try. 17:33
masak email sent.
voilà: feather.perl6.nl/~masak/web-spec/Astaire.html 17:42
zarah masak's link is also tinyurl.com/n4ltyv
masak you'll note that a few things are cruft from the Pugs/Perl 6 spectest process that don't apply to Web.pm. 17:45
I'll try to remove those before blogging.
Tene masak: emailing it to you now 17:56
sent 17:57
masak Tene: gracias. 17:58
er, "obrigado". :)
arthur-_ with or without a background ? 18:06
masak preferably without, I think. 18:07
arthur-_ okay 18:08
masak then I can cut and paste you more easily.
Tene: hm, I don't see an email from you. it may have gotten stuck somewhere. 18:09
Tene huh
Yes, still stuck in my outbox 18:10
trying to send again...
masak I don't think it worked this time either. 18:21
Tene Nope, still not. 18:27
I'll let you know if I can get it out. 18:28
masak ok.
Tene or just pleasedieinafire.net/~tene/tene-sp-for-masak.png
zarah Tene's link is also tinyurl.com/my3t9d
arthur-_ masak: sent
masak Tene: that works, thanks. 18:30
received, thanks! 18:31
Tene is that what you were looking for?
I can provide a photograph as well if you'd like.
masak Tene: hm, the URL you gave me is a wee bit slow...
it still hasn't resolved. 18:32
Tene well, it *is* hosted here at my home...
masak oh, it's resolved, but it's trying to connect.
Tene: do you have a feather account? maybe you could scp the image there. 18:33
Tene masak: now completely offline. will upload later from elsewhere. 18:54
masak Tene: ok. good luck. 18:55
Tene masak: um... seems like everything is working fine now. 19:06
email went out
scp'd to feather.
masak haz email 19:07
Tene did you want photo too?
masak Tene: not necessarily. :) I'm perfectly happy with the image. 19:08
very nice :)
use.perl.org/~masak/journal/39392 20:10
zarah masak's link is also tinyurl.com/nxqxsw
arthur-_ web-spec => nice 20:41
masak :)
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