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jonathan But anyone who cares about the length of the UUID can just go grab the string and then get it's length. 00:00
bacek indeed. 00:01
dalek rrot: r37999 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp/docs/pdds/pdd13_bytecode.pod:
Remove uuid_length from public Packfile attributes.

string and then get it's length." (c) jonathan		 00:04
jonathan oh noes responsibility!
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bacek laughing evilly 00:09
Coke_afk hears how many slots perl gets for GSOC, preliminarily. 00:11
jonathan Coke: Hopefully > 0?
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Coke I odn't know if it's secret, but yes. =-) 00:14
subject to change until monday. 00:15
Hey! Chromium got slots. that's cheating!
Infinoid Android probably did too 00:19
Coke TPF got a preliminary allocation of 10 slots. subject to change. I don't see anything that says it's a secret.
no android.
Infinoid aaw
is the parrot foundation applying separately, or are we begging for some slots from TPF? 00:20
(the fact that they both have the same acronym is a bit unwieldy) 00:21
Coke damint.
"I was just asked an excellent question on IRC - is it OK to share 00:22
these numbers with our community?
The answer is that is up to you. If it were me deciding, I would not
" -LH
ah well. =-)
so, I stress again this is PRELIMINARY.
Infinoid: pafo applied under the TPF umbrella.
"nothing will be final until monday" 00:24
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jonathan bacek: Taking sleep now, catch me tomorrow if you have any more packfile questions :-) 00:35
night all
bacek good night jonathan
I'll probably will have more packfile answers :)
ETOOMANYWILLS
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dalek rrot: r38000 | cotto++ | trunk/src/pmc/integer.pmc:
[PMC] change Integer's i_add to a VTABLE function where possible
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dalek rrot: r38001 | coke++ | trunk/t/codingstd/c_function_docs.t:
[t/docs] un TODO passing test
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Coke ponders 'make depend' 04:04
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GeJ what would that do? 04:12
Coke automatimcally updated dependency information extractable from pmcs, c, ops, perl, pir, and pasm. 04:15
so we don't have to actively manage it anymore.
dalek rrot: r38002 | coke++ | trunk/src/oo.c:
[cage] remove unreachble code
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Infinoid bacek: ping 05:05
bacek Infinoid: pong
erm. Good morning? 05:06
Infinoid Any objections to me making Socket.get_bool() return openness rather than createdness?
it's 10pm here :)
bacek Infinoid: no objections. 05:07
Infinoid I want to rip the guts out of it, reverse the logic and use it to implement Parrot_io_socket_is_closed() (TT #547)
so get_bool will just become a negating wrapper around that
bacek +1
purl 1
Coke isn't that a functional change?
(and therefore requires a dep-cycle?) 05:08
bacek Anyway, Socket.socket returns PMCNULL in case of error
Infinoid Coke: No, all this stuff was added post-1.0.0.
bacek Coke: it's between releases :)
Infinoid Anyway, get_bool will still return exactly the same thing... the "createdness" thing I mentioned above was what the documentation said it did, which isn't actually what it did. 05:09
Infinoid is updating the doc too
Coke docs win.
(then you're fixing a bug. whee.)
bacek How I can run single step from Configure?
Coke bacek: with great pain.
bacek Coke: thank you :) 05:10
Coke holy crud is 'make splint' noisy.
bacek Looks like &gen_from_def can't handle non-int defines... 05:11
dalek rrot: r38003 | Infinoid++ | trunk/src (2 files):
[io] Implement Parrot_io_socket_is_closed().
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Infinoid Damn, didn't quite get the ticket closed within half an hour of its creation. :) 05:15
*sigh* Shoulda stuck to my rule, never commit anything after 10pm 05:18
Coke-ZZZ Infinoid+++ 05:22
dalek rrot: r38004 | Infinoid++ | trunk (2 files):
[io] Build fixes from previous botched patch. Infinoid--
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bacek *incoming* 05:29
bacek hides under table
dalek rrot: r38005 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp/src/pmc/packfile.pmc:
Start reimplementing Packfile PMCs to generate underlying PackFile instead of using it directly.
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rrot: r38006 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp/t/pmc/packfile.t:
Restructure t/pmc/packfile.t.
rrot: r38007 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp/t/pmc/packfile.t:
Add tests for Packfile unpacking.
rrot: r38008 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp/src/pmc/packfile.pmc:
Really unpack PackFile and set internal attributes.
rrot: r38009 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp/src/pmc/packfiledirectory.pmc:
Refactor PackfileDirectory PMC to use Hash as main storage.
rrot: r38010 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp/t/pmc/packfiledirectory.t:
Update packfiledirectory.t to current behaviour.
bacek moves deeper under table 05:33
Infinoid go git-svn go
(small, easily reviewable patches)++
bacek Infinoid: It's not actual history of commits :) 05:34
dalek rrot: r38011 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp/t/pmc/packfiledirectory.t:
Remove unused test
Infinoid are you using stgit and constantly revisioning things, like I do?
rrot: r38012 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp/docs/pdds/pdd13_bytecode.pod:
Remove int-based accessors from PackfileDirectory. Add get_iter method.
rrot: r38013 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp/t/pmc/packfileconstanttable.t:
Update packfileconstanttable.t to properly search for ConstantTable.
rrot: r38014 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp/src/pmc/packfileconstanttable.pmc:
Refactor PackfileConstantTable to use RPA and RIA for store data.
bacek No, just git rebase --interactive
rrot: r38015 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp/src/pmc/packfileconstanttable.pmc:
Implement loading of PackFile_ConstTable into PackfileConstantTable PMC.
rrot: r38016 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp/src/pmc/packfile.pmc:
Invoke PackfileDirectory.set_pointer to instantiate all other PMCs.
rrot: r38017 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp/src/pmc/packfileconstanttable.pmc:
Remove unused code.
rrot: r38018 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp (2 files):
Generate PASM constants for PackFile_Constant types.

integers for PFC_* constant types.
rrot: r38019 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp/src/pmc/packfilerawsegment.pmc:
Reimplement PackfileRawSegment to use own stored data.
bacek One or two commits more...
Infinoid nice, I've never tried that.
Infinoid tends to split patches the hard way
bacek Ah. It was last commit. 05:36
Infinoid: I commit every finished bit. And than just squash commits into single logical one. 05:37
(Not always unfortunately...)
Infinoid Me too, I just keep it all in stgit 05:38
For some reason it fits my brain patterns better than raw git ever did.
bacek I never tried stgit. But TMWTDI works perfectly in git :) 05:40
Infinoid notes for the logs that he's now maintaining git://squawk.glines.org/parrot-all/ in addition to git://squawk.glines.org/parrot-trunk/ 05:41
Yes. But third party tools don't always work perfectly together... for instance git-svn confuses stgit and vice-versa
good thing I don't run both of them within the same checkout :) 05:42
bacek :)
git-svn still hangs with "Resetting to the latest refs/remotes/packfile_revamp"... 05:48
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cotto bacek 05:51
bacek cotto:
cotto bacek++ #packfile hackery
bacek :)
cotto my fingers don't look fat, but the evidence says otherwise
bacek I think it was cat which jumped on keyboard 05:52
cotto ENOCAT
bacek don't tell anyone :) 05:53
dalek rrot: r38020 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp/t/pmc/packfileconstanttable.t:
Use packfile_constants.pasm instead of "magik constants" in packfileconstanttable.t.
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rrot: r38021 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp/src/pmc/packfilesegment.pmc:
Add PackfileSegment.set_pointer.
kudo: 3280d41 | pmichaud++ | build/gen_whatever_pir.pl:
Whatever arguments appear to have been flipped.
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shorten dalek's url is at xrl.us/beog4y
cotto The use of "whatever" as a technical term never ceases to amuse me. 06:08
dalek rrot: r38022 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp/src/pmc/packfilesegment.pmc:
Remove throwing exception from PackfileSegment.set_pointer. bacek--
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rrot: r38023 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp/t/pmc (4 files):
Move common test functions into packfile_common.pir
bacek ok, little brake and start packing :) 06:12
dalek kudo: 712982a | pmichaud++ | docs/spectest-progress.csv:
spectest-progress.csv update: 356 files, 10284 passing, 0 failing
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bacek Infinoid: around? 09:18
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cotto anyone here conscious who knows mmd? 10:23
bacek mind melting dispatch? 10:28
cotto sounds accurate
bah. sleep 10:30
night
bacek g'night 10:32
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acajou Is Rakudo supposed to pass a spectest cleanly right now? 12:00
acajou gets 105 failed tests... 12:01
jonathan acajou: What are you seeing failing? 12:04
I thought it passed cleanly at the moment.
acajou perl.pastebin.com/d4d917b6f
Tried several times yesterday and this morning. Never clean, but a lot of source updates too... 12:05
Using git fetch / perl Configure.pl --gen-parrot / make / make spectest 12:06
acajou afk 12:07
jonathan Odd. :-| 12:15
I guess try a make realclean first too...
But I'm not seeing any failings like that...
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acajou OK, I'll try that today, thanks. 12:26
acajou waves.
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Infinoid bacek: I am now 13:08
mikehh I am getting failures in codetest at r38023 - t/codingstd/copyright.t - Duplicate copyright statement found in 12 files: 13:13
I had a look at the files and I am not sure if we can remove the duplicates 13:14
Infinoid That's a work in progress
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mikehh The imcc stuff has Copyright (C) 2002 Melvin Smith <melvin.smith@mindspring.com> then Copyright (C) 2003-2009, Parrot Foundation 13:15
others are found in prunt statements and POD 13:16
s/prunt/print/ 13:17
some are relayed to GNU copyright and things like that 13:18
s/relayed/related/
for examp;e in Configure.pl at line 31 - # Copyright (C) 2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 13:20
Infinoid Yeah. From TT #543, it looks like the test was untodoed accidentally... but it's still a work in progress 13:21
mikehh That I can see - cotto at r37939 - maybe the test should only test the first couple of lines of the file - not further? 13:23
Infinoid that sounds reasonable 13:24
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Coke-ZZZ mikehh: no. 14:13
Coke right now there's a bug in the test that it acts differently in 5.8 vs. 5.10 14:14
Infinoid Coke, are there any cases where the test should be looking for copyright tags somewhere other than, say, the first 5 lines of the file? 14:32
Coke the cases where the copyright is at the end of the file? =-)
Infinoid Fair enough. :)
Coke I'm honestly curious why it behaves diffeently.
I think a passing todo is better than a failing, though. 14:33
Infinoid Yeah, the portability issue should be fixed too. I just thought mikehh's idea was an interesting one
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bacek oh... 1:30AM here... 15:36
bacek hates pure C even more...
Infinoid: good... erm... evening? 15:37
Coke Infinoid: Parrot_str_append - should *a be ARGIN ?
Infinoid bacek: good morning :) 15:38
bacek I'm not sure is it already morning or still night... 15:39
dalek rrot: r38024 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp/src/pmc/packfilesegment.pmc:
Strip PackfileSegment to bare minimum.
bacek here we go
rrot: r38025 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp/src/pmc/packfileconstanttable.pmc:
Reindent code in packfileconstanttable.pmc
rrot: r38026 | bacek++ | branches/packfile_revamp (9 files):
Initial implementation of writable Packfile PMCs.

Every Packfile*.pmc responsible for creating "native" PackFile segment in VTABLE get_pointer. Those pointers gathered by PackfileDirectory and added into PackFile_Directory for serialization and memory management.
bacek Incoming :)
bacek Infinoid: r38026
10 hours of fight with packfiles... 15:40
Infinoid Coke: doesn't it append to *a?
bacek: I'm in TZ=PST8PDT :)
bacek Infinoid: ah. Yesterday morning was beautiful. I still remember :) 15:41
Coke Infinoid: the docs say "don't use the one you pass in, we return a value, use that. 15:42
splint complains.
"Fresh storage result (type STRING *) not released before assignment:"
Infinoid The docs are wrong, then. 15:43
a->bufused += b->bufused;
a->strlen += b_len;
a->hashval = 0;
return a;
Coke hurm. but we do potentially modify it, I suppose. just wondering how to make make splint happy
Infinoid hmm. where was that splint warning, exactly? 15:44
is that in the utf16 upgrade stuff? 15:45
nopaste "coke" at 72.228.52.192 pasted "splint output" (139725 lines) at nopaste.snit.ch/16221 15:46
Coke it's a little big.
Infinoid oh, the warning is in the caller 15:47
Splint doesn't understand that the old value will be GC'd, I guess
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Coke hurm. my nopaste still hasn't completed locally. =-) 15:53
Infinoid still "transferring data" here too 15:54
Coke you have access to feather?
ackshully...
Infinoid yeah
my browser is reading thousands of " src/nci.c:11750:9: Fresh storage temp_pmc created" lines at the moment
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Coke feather now has ~coke/splint.out.gz 15:56
er, make that ~coke/public_html/splint.out.gz
(which is presumably available via the web)
Infinoid bacek: (r38026) Nice patch, I think it's a really interesting approach, and you're going to shortcut whole bunch of effort this way. How well does it work? :) 16:01
^a
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bacek Infinoid: t/pmc/packfile.t It can produce simple PBC. And even parse it after :) 16:02
Infinoid bacek++
bacek I actually spend whole day trying to do it in different way - properly reuse available PackFile_* functions... EPIC FAIL. 16:03
spent
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Infinoid Yeah, that was the route I was going down. It was time-consuming. 16:04
bacek And it's almost impossible... Even serialized PackFile_Directory depends on PackFile. 16:06
Infinoid Coke: That page finally finished loading 16:07
Whiteknight cotto: ping
bacek need sleep 16:10
afk # zzzz....
Infinoid Coke: I think quite a lot of that could be cleared with a few annotations to teach splint about the gc 16:18
Infinoid is reading www.splint.org/manual/html/sec5.html, section 5.2.5 looks promising
unfortunately I'm out of parrot tuits until probably monday night 16:21
particle- sailing? 16:23
purl sailing is pretty careful about wind too. ;)
Infinoid among other things, yes :) 16:24
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dalek kudo: 029aa51 | (Moritz Lenz)++ | (2 files):
bring Hash.reverse up to date; test S32-hash/reverse.t
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dalek kudo: 7b2c47c | (Moritz Lenz)++ | (2 files):
Implement Hash.push, and add S32-hash/push.t to spectest.data

type() from is_deeply in Test.pm
shorten dalek's url is at xrl.us/beoij4
dalek kudo: c44a05b | (Moritz Lenz)++ | t/spectest.data:
we pass the new S09-typed-arrays/hashes.t
shorten dalek's url is at xrl.us/beoij6
dalek kudo: 79aba97 | (Moritz Lenz)++ | README:
[README] reworked paragraph on rakudo.org
shorten dalek's url is at xrl.us/beoij8
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dalek rrot: r38027 | whiteknight++ | trunk (2 files):
Finally resolve RT#46719. One of the tests was using ge instead of isge, which miraculously produced a passing test using the old initialized register values. Fixing the test enables us to avoid initialization
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cotto Whiteknight, pong 18:34
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Whiteknight hey cotto, I wanted to ask what the status of the UnionVal stuff was? 18:49
nopaste "pmichaud" at 72.181.176.220 pasted "fun with comparisons" (22 lines) at nopaste.snit.ch/16228 18:51
cotto Whiteknight, most PMCs have been converted. There are a couple of questionable status that I haven't done (Pointer, Ref) that are deprecated but still in use. 18:53
I don't think there are any blockers to finishing the task. 18:54
The remaining tasks are: 18:55
* fix the remaining PMCs which use the macros (Pointer, Ref, SharedRef, Namespace, maybe others) 18:56
* ack for any other instances of the macros and try to DTRT with them
* remove the macros from pobj.h
* done! 18:57
For some reason, PMC_pmc_val appears a bunch in sharedref.c and ref.c. I haven't looked into why, but it's probably not a difficult fix. 18:59
If you'd like to help, it should parallelize well. 19:00
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Coke cotto: ref is up for removal. don't fix it, kill it. 19:06
cotto with fire? 19:08
Coke nuke it from orbit.
nuke it from orbit is <reply>It's the only way to be sure.
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acajou Hi all. So, since yesterday, I can't get a clean spectest... My latest attempt (with a source tree from this AM): perl.pastebin.com/d8b9e694 19:13
Is no one else getting errors?
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dalek rrot: r38028 | whiteknight++ | trunk/src (2 files):
Fix Parrot_str_to_int to detect overflow and throw an EXCEPTION_ERR_OVERFLOW.
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Whiteknight acajou: what platform are you on?
acajou gcc version 4.2.4 (Ubuntu 4.2.4-1ubuntu3)
(Kubuntu 8.04.2) 19:37
DId git fetch / make realclean / make / make spectest
(and perl Configure.pl --gen-parrot b4 make)
I've tried about 6 times since yesterday, and it's never been clean. 19:38
jonathan acajou: Any chance you can run one of the tests directly and nopaste the output here or (perhaps better) on #perl6? 19:39
acajou 10-4 19:44
purl 6
acajou eg perl.pastebin.com/d341958bd 19:47
jonathan acajou: Ah, but if there is a .rakudo fiel you should run that, not the .t... 19:48
Otherwise can't tell which tests are failing that are not expected to be. 19:49
dalek rrot: r38029 | cotto++ | trunk/src/pmc (2 files):
[PMC] replace some code that uses Ref
acajou OK, sorry.
Coming right up. 19:50
perl.pastebin.com/d29e19c3b 19:52
jonathan acajou: You certainly have no local patches? 19:54
This is...odd. 19:55
acajou None whatsoever. git clone and then only git fetch. I'm just the peanut gallery here, excited that Perl6 looks almost here... 19:56
Maybe I should nuke my source three and re-clone...
acajou AFK. 19:59
jonathan acajou: That would eliminate the possibility of contamination, for sure. 20:03
particle- unless there's an installed parrot in the way, still 20:06
dalek rrot: r38030 | cotto++ | trunk (9 files):
[PMC] remove Ref and SharedRef, bump PBC_COMPAT
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jonathan particle-: I hadn't considered that one, good point. 20:36
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cotto Infinoid, ping 20:50
Infinoid, unping 20:57
jonathan, ping
mikehh I keep my parrot and rakudo dirs separate - I generally start with parrot and do a amke realclean, svn up, perl Configure.pl+, make world, make html, make smoke and then- 20:59
jonathan cotto: pong
cotto jonathan, t/pmc/sockaddr.t is confusing 21:00
It looks like it should be testing the SockAddr PMC, but it creates a Socket. 21:01
mikehh in rakudo: make realclean, git pull, perl Configure.pl --parrot-config=../parrot/parrot_config, maje, makr test, make spectest
cotto Could you add a quick note explaining why it does that?
jonathan cotto: No, because (a) I didn't write it and (b) I don't understand sockets even if I did write it. ;-)
cotto: bacek will probably have much more helpful answer 21:02
cotto: My best guess though, is the design changed.
cotto ok
jonathan When the ops went away, SockAddr was created by some method instead.
cotto svn blamed you for most of it, but I didn't dig very deeply.
jonathan Yes, I applied the patch that added it.
I more reviewed the C code and ensured the tests passed. And I think it looked sane at the time... 21:03
cotto gotcha
jonathan Anyway, bacek wrote the patch - it was before he got the commit bit though. :-)
cotto I'll ask him about it then.
seen bacek 21:04
purl bacek was last seen on #parrot 4 hours, 53 minutes and 10 seconds ago, saying: afk # zzzz....
jonathan Cool. Sorry to not be much more helpful.
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dalek rrot: r38031 | cotto++ | trunk (11 files):
[PMC] more cleanup from the Ref/SharedRef removal
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rrot: r38032 | whiteknight++ | trunk/src/pmc/hash.pmc:
remove a PMC_struct_val from src/pmc/hash.c
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acajou nuked his repo and re-cloned, running spectest now. 21:36
Looks like it'll be clean(er), already apssed S02 without error. Not sure what had happened... 21:38
dalek rrot: r38033 | cotto++ | trunk/src/pmc/namespace.pmc:
[PMC] remove PMC_pmc_val from NameSpace PMC
jonathan acajou: Maybe some weird makefile not cleaning something issue... 21:40
acajou nods. 21:43
acajou would like to take a moment to express his fondness for the "-i" command line argument from Perl5, as S19 has its future as uncertain... 21:45
acajou wonders why Kopete doesn't wrap long lines... 21:46
dalek rrot: r38034 | cotto++ | trunk/src/pmc/lexinfo.pmc:
[PMC] removed unneeded PMC_pmc_val usage
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rrot: r38035 | cotto++ | trunk/src/dynpmc/dynlexpad.pmc:
[dynpmc] switch DynLexPad to ATTRs
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acajou All tests successful 21:56
purl ship that sucker
particle- we ship every month, purl.
purl particle-: what?
jonathan acajou: Ah, phew. :-) 22:00
GeJ Good morning everyone 22:01
dalek rrot: r38036 | cotto++ | trunk (5 files):
[PMC] PMC_pmc_val is history
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acajou :)
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dalek rrot: r38037 | whiteknight++ | trunk (2 files):
update src/pmc/pointer.pmc to use ATTRs instead of PMC_struct_val. Requires a change to the nci thunk generator.
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cotto Whiteknight++ #I was hoping to avoid doing that. 22:13
Although I'd have used a VTABLE in the generated NCI code. 22:14
dalek rrot: r38038 | whiteknight++ | trunk/src/pmc/pointer.pmc:
add a custom destroy method to the Pointer PMC, so it can free the new memory that it allocates
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dalek rrot: r38039 | cotto++ | trunk (2 files):
[PMC] PMC_str_val is history
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Whiteknight cotto: yeah, a vtable might be a little better 22:21
probably should have just used get_pointer I guess. want to rework it? 22:22
cotto Sure. It's an easy fix. I'll just have to remember to build without jitcapable.
Whiteknight oh, I didn't do that. I guess I haven't tested it properly then 22:23
cotto We'll find out how it works soon enough. ;)
While that's going, do you want to tackle PMC_struct_val? 22:24
There aren't many instances of it left, so I don't think it'll take very long.
PMC_int_val should be easy too. You could probably take them both out with a fairly small commit. 22:25
Whiteknight I was working on PMC_pmc_val in the Namespace PMC, but am running into problems 22:26
cotto I got that already.
Whiteknight oh okay, that makes it easy then
I'll take PMC_struct_val?
cotto go for it
and svn up frequently ;) 22:27
Whiteknight Yeah, lesson learned
cotto make svn up yours 22:30
dalek rrot: r38040 | cotto++ | trunk (2 files):
[NCI] use VTABLE functions instead of twiddling with PMC internals directly
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bacek good morning 22:42
cotto: (sockaddr.t) Previously it tests "sockaddr" op. But nowdays "sockaddr" is just method on Socket 22:43
Whiteknight good morning bacek 22:50
bacek good morning Whiteknight
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cotto Whiteknight, I'm working on PMC_int_val. 23:06
Whiteknight okay, I'm about to commit PMC_struct_val, just running a quick coretest to make sure I'm not acting retarded at the keyboard 23:07
cotto sweet 23:08
Tests are nice like that.
Whiteknight okay, committed. What's next? 23:10
cotto Just PMC_int_val, although it's used in some jit code. 23:11
dalek rrot: r38041 | whiteknight++ | trunk (6 files):
kill PMC_struct_val. kill it dead
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cotto nm. It's used in a switch *after* a break. It's unreachable. 23:12
Whiteknight yay! dead code
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cotto Whiteknight, it looks like 38037 also requires some jit code to be fixed. 23:56
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