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Parrot 3.8.0 "Magrathea" | parrot.org | Log: irclog.perlgeek.de/parrot | #parrotsketch meeting Tuesday 19:30 UTC Set by moderator on 29 September 2011. |
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| lateau | is this not allowed in pir? I've got error:imcc:syntax error when I tried this => unless config['MAJOR'] >= 3 goto hooray | 01:31 | |
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| lateau | error:imcc:syntax error, unexpected '[' ('[') | 01:31 | |
| dalek | rrot: 6026393 | jkeenan++ | lib/Parrot/Harness/DefaultTests.pm: Use correct, long-since-current name of subroutine in documentation. |
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| dalek | rdinal: ca8f0bd | (Daehyub Kim)++ | setup.pir: patch for issue #13 |
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| rdinal: 57004ee | dukeleto++ | setup.pir: Merge pull request #17 from lateau/lateau patch for issue #13 (detect minimum parrot version) |
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| plobsing | lateau: PIR is not a full language, but a sugar layer on top of an assembly language. there is no op implementing the complex operation you are trying to do (at least none that IMCC knows about for that syntax). I would suggest breaking up your line slightly, possibly moving the keyed lookup out and using a temporary variable. | 07:41 | |
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| cotto | ubuntu++ | 08:36 | |
| definitely dislike 11.10 less than 11.04 | 08:39 | ||
| or like more | |||
| lucian | cotto: did you previously dislike unity? | ||
| cotto | lucian, some bits were annoying. I'm still not sure why a hard limit of 4 virtual desktops is a good idea. | 08:47 | |
| power management is at least sane now though. | |||
| lucian | cotto: there's a hard limit? somehow i never noticed | 08:48 | |
| cotto | I love that everything's in the title bar. | ||
| lucian | i'm just in love with the vertical screen space | ||
| yeah, me too | |||
| it adds 1/5 to my netbook's useful vertical resolution | 08:49 | ||
| cotto | It's usually a huge waste of vertical space, which is scace. | ||
| :D | |||
| tadzik | that's why I like sort of windowsy very small bar at the bottom | ||
| my eyes lie at the top most of the time anyway, it seems least annoying at the bottom | 08:50 | ||
| lucian | tadzik: but then you still have title and menu bars | ||
| osx fixes it a little with the menu bar. but unity goes even further, and at least i like it | |||
| tadzik | well, I have those reduced to minimum too, but true | ||
| generally, I consider window borders quite useless, but KDE does not really allow me to remove them completely | 08:55 | ||
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| whiteknight | good morning, #parrot | 12:00 | |
| nine | Good morning whiteknight :) | 12:06 | |
| whiteknight | hello nine | ||
| I wanted to play with green_threads last night, but we needed to go grocery shopping and the rest of my time was spent updating Ubuntu | 12:07 | ||
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| nine | whiteknight: well, today's just another day :) | 12:08 | |
| tadzik: KDE does allow to remove window borders completely | 12:09 | ||
| tadzik: System settings/Workspace appearance/Window decorations/Configure decoration/General/Border size/No Border | 12:11 | ||
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| tadzik | nine: that's borders, but not title bars | 12:29 | |
| atrodo | =~ | 12:43 | |
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| nine | whiteknight: do you happen to have a quite fast computer? | 14:05 | |
| whiteknight | define "quite fast? | 14:10 | |
| also, probably not | 14:11 | ||
| nine | Just noticed that on a very loaded system t/pmc/alert.t runs quite reliably | 14:15 | |
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| nine | Thou shalt not disable the scheduler with alarms still pending! | 14:50 | |
| tadzik | (: | 14:52 | |
| nine | Now it would just be great if I could come up with a test that can reliably reproduce this bug... Chances are that the scheduler will see some epic refactoring in the future | 14:53 | |
| whiteknight | it better | 14:55 | |
| nine | How difficult can it be to write a test for a bug you supposedly understand? | 15:22 | |
| moritz | 0..Inf | ||
| tadzik | hmm. The bug is alarms pending, but scheduler disabled? | 15:28 | |
| nine | yep | 15:29 | |
| moritz | what disables the scheduler? | 15:30 | |
| tadzik | could you perhaps fire scheduler disabling as an alarm, the last of them all? | ||
| oh, that doesn't help | |||
| moritz | oh, another ticket migration | 15:32 | |
| to another system where you can't open bug reports by email | |||
| *sigh* | |||
| tadzik | maybe it's easier to fix github than trac | ||
| nine | Well it probably just demonstrates why I'm reluctant to commit this code. It works, but I hate it and I don't understand it completely. | ||
| tadzik | you could possibly set up an daemon that'd read emails from a certain mailbox and file bugs via GH api | 15:33 | |
| dukeleto | tadzik: seems feasible | 15:38 | |
| tadzik: or we can just ask github to enable an email-to-issue feature :) | 15:39 | ||
| tadzik | I vote for the latter | ||
| whiteknight | is email-to-ticket really such an important feature? | 15:41 | |
| dukeleto | whiteknight: for the folks who like RT, it is | 15:42 | |
| moritz | whiteknight: it makes submitting bugs much simpler for me | ||
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| whiteknight | moritz: okay. I've never used the feature so I don't know how useful it is | 16:01 | |
| dukeleto | whiteknight: the perl world usually has an email for perl core internals that you can send a bug report and it opens a ticket | 16:04 | |
| i am starting to lean towards the git philosophy of ticket systems | |||
| whoa, this is cool: graphs-new.mozilla.org/ | 16:11 | ||
| tadzik | argh. 500 what? | 16:12 | |
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| dukeleto | blargpoop | 17:09 | |
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| Tene | dukeleto: git philosophy of ticket systems? | 17:52 | |
| dukeleto | Tene: there is no ticket system for git.git | 17:53 | |
| Tene: only the main development mailing list | |||
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| moritz | so error reports from people who don't keep nagging are ignored, exactly as it is now. Correct? | 18:11 | |
| benabik | o/ | 18:16 | |
| nine | Ok, I think, I will just commit this now. I don't like it and I still was unable to write a good test. But the whole alarm handling and scheduler interaction is so screwed I'll have to change things anyway. | 18:24 | |
| benabik | Commit early, commit often. | 18:25 | |
| nine | yep | 18:28 | |
| whiteknight | nine: yeah, get more eyes on it | ||
| nine | pushed | 18:34 | |
| benabik | nine++ | 18:36 | |
| cotto | ~~ | 18:37 | |
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| Coke | cotto: there's an ubuntu update? maybe my netbook is slightly more useful than a brick now! | 19:07 | |
| whiteknight | Coke: Yeah, 11.10 is pretty awesome | 19:08 | |
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| whiteknight | It's much more stable than 11.04, from my testing | 19:09 | |
| Coke will give it a shot tonight, thanks. I liked some of the visual updates from 10.x to 11.04, but it basically broke hardware sleep mode. | |||
| whiteknight | oh, I turned off my laptop's sleep mode. I haven't tried that again | 19:12 | |
| that's something I should try | |||
| cotto | 11.10 restored the ability to do nothing on laptop lid close, which makes me happy. | ||
| whiteknight | it's surprising how often "do nothing" is an essential feature in software | 19:17 | |
| dalek | rrot/green_threads: cbd81fd | (Stefan Seifert)++ | / (2 files): Enable preemption only when more than one task is active. We enable the scheduler alarm and enable_scheduling only in situations where more than one task is in the queue. This way, there is no preemption overhead in the common single-task case. |
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| rrot/green_threads: a074845 | Whiteknight++ | / (2 files): Merge branch 'green_threads' of git://github.com/niner/parrot into green_threads |
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| benabik | Hm. Looks like someone needs to be added to AUTHORS. | ||
| cotto | lulz: johnkary.net/git-1-7-7-changes-affe...developer/ "Adding cache plugins, back up in a sec :)" | 19:21 | |
| whiteknight | msg nine when you get a chance, add an entry for yourself in CREDITS | ||
| aloha | OK. I'll deliver the message. | ||
| benabik | CREDITS, AUTHORS… Whichever. | ||
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| dukeleto | this looks pretty hilarious: learnyousomeerlang.com/ | 21:15 | |
| tadzik | the haskell one is second or so on my to-read list | 21:16 | |
| I should finish SICP first | |||
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