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gnuvince ANyone here? 02:26
eviltwin_b fsvo 02:32
gnuvince Hey 02:33
eviltwin_b of course, if you're looking for someone clueful, that's nto helpful :)
gnuvince Quiet in here
Hehe :)
eviltwin_b everyone's karmically bound to audreyt? 02:34
gnuvince Of course 02:35
I was wondering the other day what ESR thought of the development model of Pugs. When he wrote "The Cathedral and the Bazaar", I don't think he had in mind a project that would give commit access to anyone requesting it 02:36
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gaal good morning 05:12
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dduncan good morning 05:38
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konobi moo 06:22
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clkao b/win 42 06:26
PerlJam 42 windows? you've got far too many. Don't you know there some poor IRC newbies starving for more than one? 06:28
:)
konobi anyone know the state of ecmascript on parrot? 06:29
PerlJam I think it's Texas 06:33
konobi: Looks like the last bit of activity was back in september. 06:34
konobi: and you'd probably get a better answer on #parrot (on irc.perl.org) 06:35
konobi kk 06:46
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svnbot6 r14812 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - implemented Array/Hash deref 10:39
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svnbot6 r14813 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - implemented ::Type( attr=>val ) 11:09
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svnbot6 r14814 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - implemented simple bind 11:18
r14815 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - implemented 'if' 11:27
r14816 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - added 'has' 11:33
r14817 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - added 'do', 'use' 11:39
r14818 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - fixed 'say' with multiple args 11:42
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svnbot6 r14819 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - 'print', 'return', better formatting 12:04
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svnbot6 r14820 | fglock++ | MP6 - TODO update 12:16
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svnbot6 r14821 | fglock++ | MP6 - added 'hello-parrot.sh' - and it works! 12:40
xinming fglock++ 12:44
svnbot6 r14822 | fglock++ | MP6 - tests reorganization 13:01
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smash_ good afternoon 14:03
Limbic_Region salutations 14:04
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svnbot6 r14824 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - move 'has' declarations near class declaration 15:06
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svnbot6 r14825 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - minor reorganization of Sub/Method 15:17
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svnbot6 r14826 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - implemented '$.var' 15:29
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pmurias hi 15:32
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pmurias fglock: what would me the prefered way for automatic handling of compilation for MP6 15:34
would a simple script which writes a Makefile be the right approach? 15:35
svnbot6 r14827 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - added 'ternary:<?? ::>'
GnuVince fglock: what is ternary:<?? ::>? Hasn't it been renamed to ternary:<?? !!>? 15:39
[particle] GnuVince: in parrot, it's ?? :: 15:40
GnuVince [particle]: Ok. What's the reason for this difference?
[particle] he's working on the parrot emitter, so there are parrot constructs
GnuVince: when the op was created in parrot, it was called ?? :: in perl6 15:41
p6spec changed
parrot impl didn't
...which is fine. parrot's not *just* for perl6
fglock GnuVince: sorry, it's ?? !!
GnuVince Okay.
fglock pmurias: not sure yet, since we are dealing with multiple languages 15:42
GnuVince So in Perl6, the classical C ternary operator (?:) is ternary:<?? !!>, but in Parrot it's ternary:<?? ::>?
[particle] actually, i misspoke. in parrot it's 'if' 15:43
well, it's labels
there's no 'if' statement in pir/pasm
i need a little wake-me-up 15:44
Juerd [particle]: WAKE UP!!!! 15:45
lambdabot Juerd: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
Juerd lambdabot: Great.
It'd be useful if the bot just sent email :)
svnbot6 r14828 | fglock++ | MP6 - fixed ternary:<?? !!> spelling - GnuVince++ 15:47
fglock pmurias: how about a 'mp6.pl' script that calls the backend-specific scripts 15:49
and makes appropriate command-line switch processing
particle: would you take a look at 'For'? I don't know how to handle iterating through an array 15:51
oops - how do you revert a commit on a single file? 15:54
TimToady I note that it's also ternary<?? ::> in v6/v6-MiniPerl6-MO/lib/MiniPerl6/Grammar.pm and Perl5/Emitter.pm 15:55
fglock TimToady: that's fixed 15:56
TimToady not in 828
fglock how can I revert r14828 ? I made a bad mistake 15:57
I committed from the wrong terminal
[particle] svn up -r 14827 15:58
then merge to head
rindolf Hi all. 15:59
Hi TimToady
fglock [particle]: svk says that there are conflicts, and doesn't do anything 16:00
use '--force' ? 16:01
jamessan svn merge -r14828:$last_good_rev 16:02
pmurias fglock: meant to say 'of' 16:03
[particle] fglock: sorry, not an svk user :(
clkao fglock: svk merge -c -14828 //mirror/pugs //mirror/pugs 16:04
but you need to pick your local revision
fglock clkao: I get a 'commit message' editor with no file list 16:06
jamessan clkao: aha, -c is handy. nice tip
[particle] wishes -c worked on words like PREV and HEAD
fglock pmurias: compilation of mp6 is tricky, it can destroy the image - it would be nice to have a script that checked if the compilation went well
clkao fglock:try -C first 16:07
-c -blah -C
jamessan: svn has -c as well, but svk has minus number which means revert
fglock clkao: 'No such revision 14828' 16:08
clkao svk log -r14828@ 16:09
fglock clkao: would you do the revert for me? to 14827
clkao i don't have a working pugs checkout right now. it's not another box
fglock: you need to find your local revision
or if you use trunk svk you can do -c -14828@ and don't hqve to worry about it
fglock clkao: 'Filesystem has no item: File not found: revision 14827, path '/trunk/v6/v6-MiniPerl6' ' 16:10
on svk log
[particle] clkao: does svk info give you the local rev number?
clkao yes
fglock: go to top levle directory? 16:11
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jamessan clkao: svn has the minus number support too, at least according to --help 16:11
clkao ah ok. they stolen everything from us. clever ;)
jamessan heh
fglock clkao: found it: 'r15701 (orig r14808)' 16:12
it's trunk svk
afaik
now 'svk merge -c 14828:14827' ? 16:13
clkao ok, svk merge -c -15701 //mirror/pugs //mirror/pugs
wait, why does it show orig 14808 not 14828 ? 16:14
[particle] because he pushed from the wrong wc?
clkao how trunk ? can you do -c -14828@ //mirror/pugs //mirror/pugs ?
fglock no - 'Change spec -14828@ not recognized' 16:15
should I do svk up -s first?
clkao no, this is only supported in latest svk 16:17
svk log -r 14828@ //mirror/pugs ?
fglock 'Can't find local revision for 14828 on /mirror/pugs 16:18
clkao did you not commit 14828 from this svk ? 16:19
fglock can I get the file from the web interface? it's a single file
clkao: no, I used another computer
with svn
maybe I should revert there? 16:20
clkao so svk sync -a first
fglock done 16:21
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fglock svk log = same error 16:21
clkao does sync say anything? 16:22
fglock 'Starting to synchronize /pugs/trunk' / 'Syncing ...' 16:23
clkao bah
use //pugs/trunk rather than //mirror/pugs then
fglock same problem - but I was able to 'svn up -r14827' on the other computer, so everything is fine now 16:25
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fglock clkao: sorry, need help again - 'svk up' stopped working - 'File not found: revision 14827' 16:33
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clkao fglock: does it say what's not found in that revision? 16:42
fglock it says 'path '/trunk/v6/v6-MiniPerl6' 16:43
clkao are you doing up in v6-miniperl6 or toplevel? 16:45
fglock in toplevel
clkao that's really odd. try to edit ~/.svk/config and kill the v6/v6-miniperl6 entry 16:47
fglock that fixed it - thanks! 16:50
except that is is missing some files, like hello.sh 16:52
clkao svk revert those ?
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fglock clkao: can I svk revert a directory? 16:57
[particle] svk revert .
fglock [particle]: didn't work 16:59
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fglock clkao: I tried ~/pugs/v6/$ svk revert -R v6-MiniPerl6 -- 'Unknown target: v6-MiniPerl6' 17:18
clkao svk st ?
fglock clkao: 'svk st' only shows a few '?' items and nothing else 17:21
clkao just revert -R . ? you sure there's vt-miniperl6 in that revision? 17:22
fglock clkao: it shows up in the web 17:23
clkao: svn.pugscode.org/pugs/v6/v6-MiniPerl6/ 17:24
lambdabot Title: Revision 14828: /v6/v6-MiniPerl6
clkao svk ls ?
what does svk info say ? is your mirro updated/ 17:25
fglock one sec, pasting 17:28
pasteling "fglock" at 201.35.169.13 pasted "svk report" (18 lines, 396B) at sial.org/pbot/21286 17:29
clkao so there's v6-MiniPerl6/ when you do ls, but it doesn't exist? 17:30
fglock yes, plain 'ls' doesn't see it 17:31
clkao that's really odd. how about rechecking out ? 17:33
did you do something crazy in your checkout? ;P
fglock oh, I always do something crazy 17:34
do you mean '~/pugs$ svk co'
clkao no, kill the tree and checkout again 17:35
or nopaste ~/.svk/conf
but i don't really have time for debug today
fglock but that will try to download all revisions back, right? 17:37
mj41_ hello, Synopses ( perl6.cz/wiki/Synopses ) with history ( perl6.cz/w/index.php?title=S06&...on=history ) on MediaWiki 17:39
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www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/p...00815.html
lambdabot Title: New development release in sight, tinyurl.com/y6jvvg
obra rgs++ 17:48
clkao rgs++ 17:49
rgs clkao: lexical aliases are mentioned here. that's a hint to Data::Bind :)
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clkao fglock: svk up ? 17:55
why is your v6 older than the root? did you do a update for that? 17:56
fglock clkao: svk up worked!
svnbot6 r14829 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - fixed nested-if
fglock clkao: I don't know how it started 17:57
clkao: much thanks! 17:58
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svnbot6 r14833 | fglock++ | MP6-perl5 - added 'self.method' 19:16
r14833 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - finished 'for' -- 'for [1,2,3] -> $x { say $x }' works
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svnbot6 r14834 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - cosmetic fixes 19:25
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cognominal does the :ratchet modifier applyes to the non greedy-match? because in that case, backtracking really means advancing in the chain? 19:38
svnbot6 r14835 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - fixed 'for'-variable
cognominal s/applyes/applies/
fglock cognominal: :ratchet does not apply to quantifiers (afaik) 19:39
but don't take my word on it 19:40
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cognominal "including bare *, +, and ? quantifiers" # so that eliminates non greedy 19:52
svnbot6 r14836 | fglock++ | MP6-parrot - methods 19:56
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TimToady I have discovered that Bill and Kathy's in Dunnigan has free wifi. :) 20:37
Juerd [free wifi]++ 20:38
TimToady but I don't know how many lambdacamels drive up and down I-5... 20:39
svnbot6 r14837 | lwall++ | Couple more ??:: -> ??!!
TimToady lunch @ Bill & Kathy's & 20:41
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dmq TimToady: thanks for the links. 21:04
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