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| dduncan | seen TimToady | 03:45 | |
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| dduncan | so, are we adding a Char type, or is your latest p6l post have a mistake in it? | 03:45 | |
| and if we do add it, does that correspond to a single character or to a string of characters? | 03:46 | ||
| I don't see a mention in synopsis 6 | |||
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| TimToady | all I'm saying is that if there is a Char type, it gets treated as Str. | 03:47 | |
| dduncan | so it is hypothetical then | 03:48 | |
| TimToady | yes, it's the abstract container of the largest possible character in the current Unicode level. | 03:49 | |
| dduncan | also ... | ||
| TimToady | If you say .chars, it's the count of those abstractions. | 03:50 | |
| dduncan | I suggest that adding such a type, though it could be named Text instead, could be useful for parity ... | ||
| that is, it may be useful to both have distinct types for character strings vs bit strings, plus an additional type which can represent both | |||
| TimToady | Text implies bigger than Char to me | ||
| dduncan | the third type would then be the immutable version of what Buf is, which represents both, afaik | 03:51 | |
| eg, Str could cover both | |||
| TimToady | bit strings are Buf variants, and Bufs are abstractly composed of integers | ||
| dduncan | okay | ||
| so maybe we already went over this and there is nothing to change? | 03:52 | ||
| TimToady | don't really think so. | ||
| dduncan | fyi, while I can live with Str meaning characters, I prefer something like Text or Char for that, with Str being more generic, as that is how I think | 03:53 | |
| TimToady | subset Char of Str where { .chars == 1 }; | ||
| dduncan | I see, it is a single character ... | ||
| makes sense, so we have parity with the bit vs blob distinction | 03:54 | ||
| we have char vs str | |||
| capitalize the above | |||
| TimToady, what time is it where you are? By my reading, your email was sent a half-hour in the future. | 04:00 | ||
| 2:29pm -08:00 | |||
| er, 8:29 | |||
| allbery_b | @time TimToady | 04:01 | |
| lambdabot | Local time for TimToady is Fri Dec 22 20:01:17 2006 | ||
| dduncan | I see, so the email got its stamp elsewhere, which was wrong | ||
| TimToady | strange. svnbot I guess, but then it shouldn't be marked PST | ||
| bbl & | 04:02 | ||
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| jrockway | @users | 05:30 | |
| lambdabot | Maximum users seen in #perl6: 167, currently: 126 (75.4%), active: 4 (3.2%) | ||
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| jrockway | ?eval Class A { method a { 1 }; method b { 2 }; method c { 3 } }; say A.new.a; say A>>.<<<a b c> | 06:30 | |
| evalbot_r14933 | Error: ā¤Unexpected "A"ā¤expecting "(", ":" or operator | ||
| jrockway | ?eval Class A { method a { 1 }; method b { 2 }; method c { 3 } }; say A.new.a; say A.new>>.<<<a b c> | 06:31 | |
| evalbot_r14933 | Error: ā¤Unexpected "A"ā¤expecting "(", ":" or operator | ||
| jrockway | should that work (return a list of A.a, A.b, A.c) ? | 06:32 | |
| luqui | jrockway, no | 06:39 | |
| because it is not that easy to call methods symbolically | |||
| jrockway | ok | ||
| luqui | (I don't remember how; something to do with ::()) | ||
| ?eval class A { method a { 1 } }; (A.new, A.new, A.new)>>.a | 06:40 | ||
| evalbot_r14933 | Error: No compatible subroutine found: "&>>a" | ||
| luqui | hmm | ||
| I was sure pugs had that implemented | |||
| ?eval <f oo bar>>>.length | |||
| evalbot_r14933 | Error: No compatible subroutine found: "&>>length" | ||
| luqui | ?eval <f oo bar>.<<length | ||
| evalbot_r14933 | Error: ā¤Unexpected "<<length"ā¤expecting ".", "\187", ">>", "=", operator name, qualified identifier, variable name, "...", "--", "++", array subscript, hash subscript or code subscript | 06:41 | |
| jrockway | ?eval <f oo bar>>>.chars | ||
| evalbot_r14933 | (1, 2, 3) | ||
| luqui | oh yeah, right | ||
| ?eval "foo"."chars" | 06:42 | ||
| evalbot_r14933 | Error: ā¤Unexpected "\""ā¤expecting ".", "\187", ">>", "=", operator name, qualified identifier, variable name, "...", "--", "++", array subscript, hash subscript or code subscript | ||
| luqui | ?eval "foo".::("chars") | ||
| evalbot_r14933 | Error: ā¤Unexpected "::(\""ā¤expecting ".", "\187", ">>", "=", operator name, qualified identifier, variable name, "...", "--", "++", array subscript, hash subscript or code subscript | ||
| jrockway | "foo"::"chars" | 06:44 | |
| ?eval "foo"::"chars" | |||
| evalbot_r14933 | Error: ā¤Unexpected "::\""ā¤expecting term postfix or operator | ||
| TimToady | "foo"."chars" is specced but not implemented. | 06:46 | |
| ?eval "foo".$('chars') | |||
| evalbot_r14933 | Error: ā¤Unexpected "$('"ā¤expecting ".", "\187", ">>", "=", operator name, qualified identifier, variable name, "...", "--", "++", array subscript, hash subscript or code subscript | ||
| luqui | TimToady, so you made that easy again? | ||
| TimToady | ?eval my $bar = 'chars'; "foo".$bar | 06:47 | |
| evalbot_r14933 | 3 | ||
| luqui | didn't you have a good argument for unifying all of it/ | ||
| TimToady | .$() should work too, but doesn't | ||
| jrockway | so is the hyper case specced? | ||
| TimToady | again? | ||
| jrockway | that could be fun when a method call modifies the object | ||
| luqui | i mean under ::() | 06:48 | |
| TimToady | hyper is specced for methods, but only considering .foo as a postfix | 06:49 | |
| by itself . is not an operator | |||
| there is no >>.<< | |||
| jrockway | too bad :) don't know when I would use that, though | ||
| luqui | my ($a, $b, $c) = ($A, $B, $C)>>.<<<a b c> | 06:50 | |
| TimToady | part of why we allowed ."foo" is that it prefers prefix:, so ."+" means apply prefix + as postfix. | ||
| luqui | i.e. shorthand for doing several things that have nothing in common but the dot ;-) | ||
| jrockway | luqui: that returns a list of lists | 06:51 | |
| (($A.a, $A.b, ..),($B.a,...),... | |||
| luqui | are you sure? | ||
| jrockway | well, it doesn't exist | ||
| luqui | ($A, $B, $C)X.X<a b c> would... | ||
| jrockway | hmmm | ||
| luqui needs to look over the new hyper spec | |||
| jrockway | you're right | 06:52 | |
| well, actually | |||
| <a b c> X_X <a b c> == <aa bb cc>, right | |||
| btw, i love the X_X operator | |||
| i hope we can have the ^_^ and T_T operators too :) | 06:53 | ||
| TimToady | there is no _ operator either | ||
| jrockway | isn't that the example in the synopsis? | ||
| TimToady | what do you think _ is? | 06:54 | |
| jrockway | concatenate strings? | ||
| TimToady | not for about 3 years now... | ||
| it is ~ for that | |||
| jrockway | ahh | 06:55 | |
| TimToady | and <a b c> X~X <a b c> would not be <aa bb cc> | ||
| jrockway | aa ab ac ba bb bc ... | ||
| got it... | |||
| TimToady | <a b c> >>~<< <a b c> would be that | ||
| and X is short for X~X | 06:56 | ||
| jrockway | i need a new "periodic table of the operators" :) | 06:57 | |
| TimToady | we need a new table of the operators periodically. :) | 06:58 | |
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| svnbot6 | r14934 | lwall++ | Retargeted links that moved from S06 to S02. | 20:13 | |
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| buetow | golegolem.de | 22:53 | |
| Ups | 22:54 | ||
| Wrong window | 22:55 | ||
| This url dosnt exists anyways | |||
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