pugscode.org | sial.org/pbot/perl6 | ?eval "m" ~ "oo" ~ "se" | > reverse (show (scanl (*) 1 [1..] !! 4))
Set by gaal on 19 March 2007.
moritz has reached his recursion limit as well, trying to recover by getting some sleep 00:08
TimToady ~. 06:36
tene ?eval ~. 06:38
evalbot_r15770 Error: ␤Unexpected end of input␤expecting ".", "\187", ">>", "=", operator name, qualified identifier, variable name, "...", "--", "++", "i", array subscript, hash subscript or code subscript
gaal gnuvince: 07:28
reverse (show (scanl (*) 1 [1..] !! 4))
> reverse (show (scanl (*) 1 [1..] !! 4))
lambdabot "42"
Kattana I read today there are "10^23 different operators" can anyone confirm? 07:55
tene Kattana: that would be including the various metaoperators.
?eval (1..3) X~X (2..4) 07:56
evalbot_r15770 Error: No such subroutine: &X
Kattana I see, I see. 07:57
gaal audreyt: I'm trying to reassemble my memory about why we dropped Data derivations in AST/Val types. Could it be because of circularity problems and the 6.4 limitation of instances in hs-boot? or existential wrapping in data Val? We have neither of these problems now and it may be possible to bring back derivations... 09:19
fridim ?eval (1..3) XX (1..4) 09:28
evalbot_r15770 Error: ␤Unexpected "XX"␤expecting operator
fridim ?eval (1..3) ZZ (1..4)
evalbot_r15770 Error: ␤Unexpected "ZZ"␤expecting operator
meppl good morning 09:51
lichtkind is MAD larrys p5>6 translator also in the pugs trunk? 10:06
moritz my "make smoke" dies without any message... 11:00
last executed test is t/builtins/strings/uc.t
lichtkind moritz du you know where MAD is? 11:01
moritz then there is no output for quite a while, and then it just dies
lichtkind: no
lichtkind who could it know?
moritz lichtkind: TimToady probably ;)
lichtkind audreyt its served the article is ready (without last chapter of course) 11:02
TimToady could you please tell me if MAD lays in Pugs rep?
integral It's applied to blead-perl 11:12
(So you just need to obtain that and then build with the right flags to enable MAD) 11:13
lichtkind integral: thanks a lot 11:26
integral no problem :) 11:31
audreyt @tell lichtkind Perl5->MAD->Perl6 is part of Pugs repo: misc/pX/Common/P5_to_P6_Translation 11:54
lambdabot Consider it noted.
moritz it builds but produces only empty output files 12:13
svnbot6 r15771 | fglock++ | v6.pm - fixed '@_' and string interpolation 12:21
audreyt update: macbook disk corrupted _again_, this time starting in ~/.svk/. backing up now, switching workspace to Win32, will be back in a few hours (and replace the disk _again_) tomorrow 13:02
audreyt mumbles something about why software has to run on hardware, etc.
moritz audreyt: good point, hardware should be abstracted away ;) 13:03
webmind sure, but then I don't want to see any software on the hardware either :) 13:07
ajs_ audreyt: Perhaps the problem is not the disk. You might have a hardware problem unrelated to the particular disk you put in the box... 14:19
lanny Ok. Regaurding 'svk pull' on feather error seems to occur at 15257@. 15256@ says the mirror was relocated to svn.pugscode.org/pugs. Guessing that didn't go smoothly. 17:24
lambdabot Title: Revision 15771: /
geoffb Nope, the relocated URL is the correct one. I haven't used feather since the change, so I'm not sure the problem there -- though if you have a local mirror of the repo (rather than using the common one), you should ask the other feather users about redirecting yourself. 17:27
lanny I don't have a local mirror. Using the SVK instructions found on feather.perl6.nl/. 17:29
lambdabot Title: Perl6 Community Development Server
lanny I see that it's the correct mirror setup. Wondering if SVN::Mirror needs updating on Feather. It's a 0.71 and 0.73 is out.
geoffb Juerd, clkao, or audreyt may be able to help, but I'm out of my weak feather knowledge at this point. 17:30
lanny I also tried svk mirroring to my local box with latest svn libs, svk 2.00. When I try and just sync -s HEAD I get a message about log corruption. Google provided no joy on a solution. 17:32
Hmm. I'll compile a local SVN::MIrror and see if that resolves. 17:33
pmurias hi 17:51
pugscode.org dosn't resolve correctly for me (tried from feather with the same result) what is it's ip addres? 17:52
offby1 pugscode.org has address 194.145.200.126 17:53
gaal pmurias: 194.145.200.126
lanny Well it's not SVN::Mirror that's the problem. 17:57
pmurias thanks 18:03
lanny Hmm. I can successfully mirror and sync -s 15257 so feather svk is definitely having problems with the relocation of the mirror source after 15256@. 18:32
[particle] do you really need all the history? 18:33
lanny Not at all. But the config comes from ~audreyt/config.
Using audrey's mirror and pulling keep history down to one location (when it works again). 18:35
Cannot type today. :( s/keep/keeps/
perlmonkey2 Is it considered poor form to ask how about the status of Perl6? 19:34
moritz perlmonkey2: it's developing ;) 19:35
[particle] perlmonkey2: do you have a commit bit?
if not, would you like one?
perlmonkey2 I must not have a commit bit, because I don't know what it is. But yes, I think I would like one, if it means helping with Perl6. 19:36
integral heh, "finishing it is now *your* problem" :-P
[particle] /msg me your email address 19:36
moritz perlmonkey2: pugs implements quite a lot perl6 features
?eval (1 .. 5) >>+<< (3 .. 7)
evalbot_r15771 (4, 6, 8, 10, 12) 19:36
[particle] perlmonkey2: ping 19:45
perlmonkey2: invite sent! welcome. 19:53
it's customary to add your name to AUTHORS, to make sure your commit bit works
perlmonkey2 pugscode.org appears to be down? 19:59
Gothmog_ responds to ping... 20:00
...and http works, too
moritz perlmonkey2: do you have DNS problems? there were some recently... 20:04
renormalist ?eval "m" ~ "oo" ~ "se" | > reverse (show (scanl (*) 1 [1..] !! 4)) 20:57
evalbot_r15771 Error: ␤Unexpected ">"
renormalist ?eval reverse (show (scanl (*) 1 [1..] !! 4)) 20:57
evalbot_r15771 Error: ␤Unexpected "1"␤expecting operator, ":", "," or ")"
renormalist wonders what's that topic for? 20:58
lambdabot renormalist: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
TimToady @eval reverse (show (scanl (*) 1 [1..] !! 4)) 21:22
geoffb > reverse (show (scanl (*) 1 [1..] !! 4)) 21:23
lambdabot "42"
moritz ?eval 6*8 21:26
evalbot_r15771 48
moritz ?eval 6*7 21:27
evalbot_r15771 42
moritz sometimes life can be so simple ;)
TimToady ?eval ~(6*7)
evalbot_r15771 "42"
moritz how do I define and access tuple in p6? 21:36
TimToady the official type name for a tuple in p6 is Seq, but I'm not sure pugs knows that. 21:38
moritz TimToady: ok thanks, I'll revert to arrays for now
TimToady ?eval (1,2,3).WHAT
evalbot_r15771 ::Array
perlmonkey2 I wonder why Cox's DNS doesn't have pugscode.org in it? 22:08
perlmonkey2 thinks it is time to set up named as a caching server. 22:09
TimToady perlmonkey2: does it have feather.perl6.nl? 22:30
or perlcabal.org? 22:31
Limbic_Region TimToady - is audreyt MIA due to hw failures again?
I briefly caught something about "perhaps it isn't your harddrive"
allbery_b I didn't catch the whole ting but she was talkin about corruption in her svk image 22:32
integral backlog to 13:02, she said something about having to change drive again
Limbic_Region I just caught it in the log
she had to switch to Win32
so no biggie from my perspective
I think Win32 is under appreciated 22:33
it has been an extremely quiet day apparently
[particle] everybody's waiting for the parrot release :) 22:34
Limbic_Region oh, who's wearing the hat this month [particle] ?
[particle] coke
geoffb The question is: was the pad branch totally local, or did she have a copy somewhere other than ~/.svk?
Limbic_Region oh yeah, forgot about that geoffb 22:35
:-(
.seen gaal 22:36
?seen gaal
lambdabot gaal is in #perl6 and #haskell. I last heard gaal speak 4h 42m 31s ago.
geoffb I'm hoping the pad branch delay so far had been about wrapping her brain around the problem, plus other tasks having higher local priority, rather than that there's just a monster amount of code to be wrangled.
Limbic_Region wonders what Data derivations are and why they are useful 22:37
geoffb - it didn't seem to appear that she was having a hard time recovering the data - only that the disk was going bad 22:38
geoffb - "update: macbook disk corrupted _again_, this time starting in ~/.svk/. backing up now,...."
geoffb geoffb: My concern is that she said the corruption *started* there. Hence, likely to be most likely to have unrecovered bits.
I wonder why I addressed myself there .... 22:40
lumi Limbic_Region: They're sort of part of a Haskell type reflection system, I think 22:41
allbery_b Data by itself doesn't make much sense to me 22:44
(I wasn't aware of such a thing, nor does ghci appear to be)
Limbic_Region lumi - yeah, I kinda sorta gathered that from gaal's inquiry to audreyt on the subject. I was kind of hoping for a lay explanation that told me why they were cool and desireable 22:45
lumi allbery_b: It's part of the Data.Generics thing, isn't it? 22:46
allbery_b Typeable is the reflection thing
ah, there it is, yes
lumi Limbic_Region: I think it's part of the whole "make Haskell values into Pugs values automagically" jobby
allbery_b so that makes SYB aka Data.Generics usable, which lets you do all sorts of useful things 22:48
Limbic_Region oh
meppl good night 23:30
perlmonkey2 I think I found out why I'm having so many problems with DNS resolution concering pugscode.org slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/17/1235224 23:53
lambdabot Title: Slashdot | Registerfly's Accreditation Terminated by ICANN

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