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| dduncan | to follow up, it appears that what I missed was running this: sudo ranlib /usr/local/lib/ghc-6.6.1/*.a ... which got me past my stated problem | 00:05 | |
| and the Pugs Makefile.PL now cmopleted | |||
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| pugs_svnbot | r17316 | lwall++ | [STD] cheated/metholated version now 100% parsable by pugs | 04:16 | |
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17316 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 17316 - Pugs - Trac | 04:17 | |
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| bsb | 100% proof metholated | 04:49 | |
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| moritz_ | diakopter: pong | 05:15 | |
| diakopter: I'm only here for a few minutes, then again in ~10h | 05:16 | ||
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| moritz_ | perhaps a mail might be more efficient... you find my address in commitbit | 05:26 | |
| $work & | |||
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| pugs_svnbot | r17317 | lwall++ | [STD] can now parse terminators, ws, and (very nearly) prefix ops | 08:12 | |
| r17317 | lwall++ | [Metholated] now knows ALNUM, VSPACE, HSPACE, after, and BOL | |||
| r17317 | lwall++ | [metholate] fixes context vars that pugs doesn't like in sigs | |||
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17317 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 17317 - Pugs - Trac | ||
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| pugs_svnbot | r17318 | fglock++ | [kp6] added t/kp6/34-typed-container.t (fails) | 12:53 | |
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17318 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 17318 - Pugs - Trac | ||
| pugs_svnbot | r17319 | fglock++ | [kp6] typed containers are "not wrong" | 12:56 | |
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17319 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 17319 - Pugs - Trac | ||
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| pmurias | fglock: hi | 13:16 | |
| fglock | pmurias: hey | ||
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| pmurias | fglock: is there anything in particular i could do? | 13:27 | |
| fglock | pmurias: I'm trying to follow the plan at moritz.faui2k3.org/pugs/v6/docs/kp6...p.pod.html | 13:28 | |
| lambdabot | Title: kp6-roadmap | ||
| fglock | the next step could be to fix the Array and Hash implementations | 13:29 | |
| in order to implement Signatures/Captures | |||
| the plan also needs work - there is no Milestone 4.2 | 13:30 | ||
| 4.2 will depend on which extra functionality STD needs | 13:33 | ||
| pmurias | i'll try to do the Hash then | 13:35 | |
| fglock | cool - there is some previous work from the pil-run implementation | 13:38 | |
| masak | reuse++ | ||
| fglock | but we don't need everything right now (slices, OO-keys) | ||
| masak | fglock: what's the goal of kp6? | 13:40 | |
| fglock | masak: it's yet another Perl 6 compiler, but it is written in a subset of Perl 6 | ||
| masak | what's "kinda" about it? | 13:41 | |
| fglock | because the "real" Perl 6 compiler would be written in "full" Perl 6 | ||
| masak | ah, ok | ||
| fglock | the "kinda" is about the source code | ||
| masak | doesn't sound like a real disadvantage to me, that it's being written in a subset | 13:42 | |
| that might be good for portability, for example | |||
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| fglock | yes, that's one advantage; the disadvantages are that we have to implement our own tools (Pugs reuses a lot from Haskell and Perl 5), and it's slow (the Parrot compiler should be much faster) | 13:47 | |
| masak | "nod" | ||
| *nod*, even | |||
| fglock | but it's fun :) | ||
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| pmurias | using mp6 instead of full p6 hinders portability in a way | 13:49 | |
| as writing a backend in mp6 is way more work then it would in full p6 | |||
| masak | pmurias: why? | 13:50 | |
| or rather, does that not presuppose the existence of a full p6 compiler? | 13:51 | ||
| pmurias | i mean that mp6 might be an advantage over for example pir, but when kp6 is ready enough i don't think one would gain much by not writing it in itself | 13:55 | |
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| pmurias | it's not as if i had a finished p6 compiler hidden somewhere ;) | 13:56 | |
| masak | I hope not ;) | 13:57 | |
| fglock | pmurias: that's the idea; rewriting kp6 in itself == writing Perl 6 in Perl 6 | 13:58 | |
| masak | fglock: so the goal of kp6 is to converge towards a full p6 compiler, written in itself? | 13:59 | |
| pmurias | fglock: i know | 14:00 | |
| masak: yes | |||
| masak ponders that | 14:01 | ||
| fglock | hmm - I'd better remember the reason why we are not using pugs to write the compiler | 14:02 | |
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| fglock | I think it's because perl5 is just easier to hack with | 14:05 | |
| pmurias | i'm thinking of writing a helper function: class ClassName=>{method_name=>sub {...}} | 14:07 | |
| pasteling | "pmurias" at 81.168.228.98 pasted "how ugly things look right now" (13 lines, 329B) at sial.org/pbot/26953 | 14:10 | |
| pmurias | anything wrong with the suggestion, DispatchSugar turned out to be toxic so not sure if i should go with it | 14:13 | |
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| fglock | pmurias: looking | 14:14 | |
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| fglock | pmurias: toxic in what way? | 14:14 | |
| i'm not much into sugar functions | 14:18 | ||
| pmurias | DispatchSugar requires sprinkling sugar calls all over the place, and makes the objects too magical internally | 14:19 | |
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| pasteling | "pmurias" at 81.168.228.98 pasted "comparision of sugar versus no sugar" (23 lines, 504B) at sial.org/pbot/26954 | 14:23 | |
| fglock | pmurias: it looks like Moose | 14:25 | |
| i think the most cryptic part is " sugar { %{ $_[0] }, _value => {}, } ", and the sugar doesn't help there | 14:29 | ||
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| pmurias | &sugar is intended for deletion | 14:36 | |
| fglock | pmurias: i guess i'm ok with no-sugar; i think it ends up easier to debug | 14:38 | |
| we could use ::CALL instead of ::DISPATCH | 14:39 | ||
| i guess i'm bikeshedding | 14:40 | ||
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| pmurias | fglock: ::DISPATCH works great withought &sugar why should we change it | 14:49 | |
| pugs_svnbot | r17320 | pmurias++ | kp6: a Hash stub implemented using a new helper function | ||
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17320 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 17320 - Pugs - Trac | ||
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| pmurias | the point of &sugar was to use -> instead of ->{_dispatch}, but ::DISPATCH does the same thing | 14:51 | |
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| fglock | pmurias: ah, ok | 14:52 | |
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| masak | what's the difference between v6/v6-KindaPerl6/lib and v6/v6-KindaPerl6/llib5? | 15:35 | |
| s/llib5/lib5/ | |||
| fridim_ | b5? | ||
| (sorry) | |||
| masak | :) | ||
| but really | 15:36 | ||
| they seem to contain many of the same files | |||
| TimToady | I would imagine blib5 is the p5 translation of the kp6 versions in lib | ||
| masak | except it's not blib5, it's lib5 | 15:37 | |
| moritz_ | TimToady: you imagine right ;-) | ||
| masak | and some of the files are identical | ||
| moritz_ | they are not "binary", after all | ||
| masak | so if I'm curious, I should look at the originals in lib? | 15:38 | |
| moritz_ | right | ||
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| fglock | masak: the files in Runtime/Perl5/ are identical, because they are already Perl 5 | 15:45 | |
| masak | ah | ||
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| moritz_ wonders if the supplemental services like evalbot, irc logging etc. should go into a separate svn repository | 16:17 | ||
| to keep the pugs repo a bit cleaner | |||
| on the other hand the overhead of maintaining to svn repos might be overkill | 16:18 | ||
| diakopter | moritz_: while you're at it, I'd like to see separate trunk/branches(/tags?) for the various implementations - pugs, mp6/kp6, etc. And even a separate one for the test suite (building pugs' CPAN distribution would either include it or refer to a separate distribution)... but all of that can still be in the same repo - just in different dirs. We can do /pugs/* -> /projects/trunk/pugs/* redirecting for the old links.... yes I know it's | 16:20 | |
| ... suggestion. :( | |||
| oops, /projects/pugs/trunk/* I meant... | 16:21 | ||
| masak | diakopter: that sounds like a really good idea | ||
| diakopter | masak: there are detriments, though | 16:22 | |
| moritz_ | diakopter: you are thinking of a perl 6 repo, not a pugs one ;-) | ||
| diakopter | moritz_: yeah :/ | ||
| moritz_ | I don't object, but you should consult audreyt and TimToady at least ;-) | ||
| masak | pugs practically is a perl 6 repo... | ||
| s/pugs/the pugs repo/ | 16:23 | ||
| diakopter | I'm certainly not wholeheartedly recommending it, as I know it would cause grief | ||
| masak | it would certainly cause disorientation at least | ||
| diakopter | but I thought I'd bring it up since you mentioned splitting some out at all. | ||
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| masak | but it might be good long-term | 16:23 | |
| diakopter | honestly I'd kinda like to "start over" with all the non-haskell svn.pugscode.org/pugs/* stuff... in either one new repo or a bunch of new repos... | 16:24 | |
| masak | why? | 16:25 | |
| diakopter | masak: purely in case audreyt can't be reached for a decision on pugs proper | ||
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| masak | hm | 16:27 | |
| diakopter | masak: I mean, the repo could be cloned to retain history. | ||
| masak | that's what svn does, retain history | ||
| diakopter | bbiab | ||
| er, yeah | |||
| masak | did not mean to score a cheap rethoric point, I just don't really understand the exact purpose | 16:30 | |
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| masak | (and I sincerely hope that audreyt can be reached for a decision on pugs proper for all foreseeable future) | 16:31 | |
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| diakopter | I meant that it could be forked, (tentatively/temporarily) to leave both options open for her. | 16:34 | |
| masak | which two options? | ||
| restructured repo vs old repo? | 16:35 | ||
| diakopter | keeping pugs proper in the existing repo/url/structure or moving it to some new structure/url (whether in the same (actually "forked") or its own repo). | ||
| masak | was audreyt almost coming back to pugs development for a while, and then disappeared again? I seem to recall her talking briefly about relenging, but haven't seen her since | 16:37 | |
| diakopter | I haven't heard much recently. obra: ping? | 16:38 | |
| masak | there certainly are benefits to keeping all activity in one repo, as now | ||
| diakopter | definitely | 16:40 | |
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| masak | this channel is one. would perl 6 activity split into many projects, channel activity might split, too | 16:41 | |
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| diakopter | I'd hope not. I'd think moritz_++ 's new AIO bot would keep it close :) | 16:41 | |
| masak | yes, most likely :) | 16:42 | |
| depends how independant the other projects got, I guess | |||
| diakopter | sharing a virtual bazaar is healthly for competitors and cooperators. :) | ||
| masak is desperatly waiting for 6.28.0 | 16:43 | ||
| diakopter | the question is whether/when would parrot/nqp and parrot/perl6 discussion migrate over here..... | ||
| masak | heh | ||
| moritz_ | somehow I doubt that they will | ||
| they have stricter coding styles, stricter access controll (less commiters)... | 16:44 | ||
| somehow I think they feel safer in their own repository | |||
| diakopter | I didn't mean repository | ||
| I meant the channel | |||
| moritz_ | ah, ok | ||
| @seen pmichaud | 16:45 | ||
| lambdabot | I haven't seen pmichaud. | ||
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| moritz_ | seen pmichaud | 16:45 | |
| buubot | moritz_: Sorry, I haven't seen pmichaud | ||
| masak | diakopter: it might be that, to the extent that they intersect, the discussions have already migrated | ||
| in which direction I'm not sure, probably both | |||
| diakopter | TimToady and pmichaud routinely have syntax/grammar discussions on #parrot the past coupla months | ||
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| Muixirt | hi | 17:27 | |
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| masak | hello. | 17:27 | |
| Muixirt | in what charcter encoding is perl souce code written in? | 17:28 | |
| moritz_ | are you talking about perl6? | ||
| Muixirt | yes | ||
| moritz_ | that assumes utf8 | ||
| Muixirt | does the language itself use characters that arent ascii? | 17:29 | |
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| moritz_ | yes | 17:30 | |
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| moritz_ | for example Ā«...Ā» (that can be written as <<...>> as well) | 17:31 | |
| wolverian | though that is latin1 | ||
| moritz_ | ?eval Ā«foo bar bazĀ».perl | ||
| wolverian | I think the core language still doesn't require any characters outside the latin1 set | ||
| moritz_ | even latin1 is not ascii | ||
| wolverian | sure | ||
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| moritz_ | and previously the Yen sign was a valid operator... | 17:32 | |
| wolverian | just saying that you don't need utf8 encoding if you're working in a legacy environment -- latin1 will do fine | ||
| moritz_ | ENOEVALBOT | ||
| #pugs say Ā«foo barĀ».perl | |||
| exp_evalbot | OUTPUT[decodeUTF8': bad data: '\171'ā¤decodeUTF8': bad data: '\187'ā¤("foo", "bar")ā¤] | ||
| moritz_ | my "evalbot" thingy doesn't do non-ascii data yet | 17:33 | |
| where is the real one? | |||
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| pmurias | #kp6 say "Hello" | 17:59 | |
| exp_evalbot | r17316: OUTPUT[Helloā¤] | ||
| pmurias | #kp6 my $a=1;say "Hello $a" | ||
| exp_evalbot | r17316: OUTPUT[Undefined subroutine &main:: called at lib/KindaPerl6/Runtime/Perl5/MOP.pm line 35.ā¤] | ||
| pmurias | #kp6 my $a="World";say "Hello $a" | ||
| exp_evalbot | r17316: OUTPUT[Undefined subroutine &main:: called at lib/KindaPerl6/Runtime/Perl5/MOP.pm line 35.ā¤] | ||
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| fglock | pmurias: no var interpolation yet | 18:03 | |
| pugs_svnbot | r17321 | fglock++ | [kp6] minimal implementation of Pair | ||
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17321 | |||
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| pugs_svnbot | r17322 | fglock++ | [kp6] fixed Pair.str | 18:12 | |
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17322 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 17322 - Pugs - Trac | ||
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| pugs_svnbot | r17323 | fglock++ | [kp6] Pair.str works | 18:18 | |
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17323 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 17323 - Pugs - Trac | ||
| pasteling | "pugsbot_r17185" at 193.200.132.135 pasted "Pugs build failure" (6 lines, 278B) at sial.org/pbot/26961 | 18:19 | |
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| diakopter | ?eval "yo" | 18:19 | |
| pugsbot_r17185 | "yo" | ||
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| Pat____ | ?eval [~] <m oo se> | 18:21 | |
| pugsbot_r17185 | "moose" | ||
| Pat____ | ?eval 1??2!!3 | ||
| pugsbot_r17185 | 2 | ||
| Pat____ | ?eval 1??$a=2!!$a=3; $a; | 18:22 | |
| pugsbot_r17185 | Error: ā¤Unexpected "="ā¤expecting "::"ā¤Variable "$a" requires predeclaration or explicit package name | ||
| Pat____ | ?eval my $a; 1??$a=2!!$a=3; $a; | ||
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| pugsbot_r17185 | \3 | 18:22 | |
| wolverian | ?eval my $a = 1 ?? 2 !! 3 | 18:23 | |
| pugsbot_r17185 | \2 | ||
| Pat____ | cananyone explain the previous ? | ||
| why is my result different than wolverian's ? | |||
| wolverian | hm | ||
| Pat____ | even though the precendence of the assignement should be lower ... | 18:24 | |
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| Pat____ | actually it is not a perl6 thingy ... it is a perl thingy that bit us at work .. i just wanted to make sure perl6 behaves the same way | 18:25 | |
| ?eval my $a; 1?? $a=2 !! ($a=3); $a; | 18:29 | ||
| pugsbot_r17185 | \2 | ||
| masak | seems there is only one way to parse it, precedance-wise | 18:30 | |
| s/da/de/ | |||
| Pat____ | I tried figuring out the precedence rule but could not ... | ||
| masak | ?eval 2 !! 3 | 18:31 | |
| pugsbot_r17185 | Error: ā¤Unexpected "!!"ā¤expecting operator | ||
| masak | exactly. | ||
| I don't understand how it goes wrong | |||
| wolverian | it compiles to | 18:33 | |
| (1 ?? $a=2 !! $a) = 3 | |||
| masak | aaah | ||
| wolverian | i.e. $a = 2 = 3 | ||
| same thing in perl5 | |||
| masak | lvalues! | ||
| ($a = 2) = 3 | 18:34 | ||
| wolverian | we have constant folding too, so it's actually directly compiled to $a=2=3 | ||
| in perl5 anyway | |||
| yar, that. | |||
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| masak | will we ever get constant folding that reomves the 2? :) | 18:34 | |
| s/om/mo/ | 18:35 | ||
| Pat____ | :-) | ||
| who thanks guys | |||
| i mean whoa ... | |||
| i could not have guessed on my own | |||
| masak | trust the #perl6 team to solve all your perl 5 questions :) | 18:36 | |
| wolverian | Pat____, you can play with perl -MO=Deparse -e'....' , and with B::Deparse's various options to make the output make more sense | ||
| it wasn't particularly useful in this instance, until I replaced the 1 with a variable. | |||
| Pat____ | masak heheheh I thought this would do the trick ... | 18:37 | |
| thanks wolverian I'll sure do that next time | |||
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| Pat____ | the output is at least helpful enough to know where perl was putting the implicit parens ... | 18:39 | |
| ok so while I am here | 18:45 | ||
| how is perl 6 coming along ? | |||
| masak | :) | ||
| Pat____ | slowly but steadily ? | ||
| wolverian | it's converging | ||
| masak | \lim t->\infty perl6 = christmas | 18:46 | |
| Pat____ | hehhehe | ||
| then it'll be constant chrismas | |||
| wolverian | I hope we don't need to wait infinitely... | 18:48 | |
| [particle] | don't worry, we'll let you unwrap some presents on christmas eve :) | ||
| masak | pugs has at least brought christmas this side of infinity... | 18:49 | |
| wolverian | what's on the other side of infinity? | ||
| pmurias dosn't think constant christmas would be a good thing | 18:50 | ||
| [particle] | Pat____: the behavior is documented under Conditional Operator section of perlop | ||
| masak | wolverian: new years eve | 18:51 | |
| [particle] | (thanks goes to pmichaud on #parrot for that reference) | ||
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| Pat____ | thanks [particle] hehhe and to think i could have gotten an rtfm as an answer :-) | 18:51 | |
| [particle] | seems you're not the first deranged programmer to try that :P | 18:52 | |
| masak | Pat____: RTFM is not as -O fun as finding the answer :) | ||
| PerlJam | Pat____: btw, the general rule is "if you're using assignment in the branches of the ternary op, you're doing something wrong" | 18:53 | |
| masak | heh | 18:54 | |
| wolverian | true :) | ||
| Pat____ | perlbot are there other reasons beside the behaviour that bit me in the butt ? | ||
| oopps i meant PerlJam :-) | |||
| not to imply that you are a perlbot ... or that being a perlbot is a pejorative term :-P | 18:55 | ||
| PerlJam | Pat____: There's the aesthetics of it. The abuse of the ternary op. And, of course, precedence. | ||
| Pat____ | OK lesson learned | 18:56 | |
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| gotta leave | |||
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| pmurias | fglock: ping | 19:07 | |
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| moritz_ | #kp6 Pair.new(2, 3).say | 19:28 | |
| exp_evalbot | r17323: OUTPUT[Syntax Errorā¤] | ||
| pmurias | #kp6 $p=Pair.new(2,3);$p.say | 19:29 | |
| exp_evalbot | r17323: OUTPUT[Undefined subroutine &main:: called at lib/KindaPerl6/Runtime/Perl5/MOP.pm line 36.ā¤] | ||
| pmurias | #kp6 my $p=Pair.new(2,3);$p.say | ||
| exp_evalbot | r17323: OUTPUT[Undefined subroutine &main:: called at lib/KindaPerl6/Runtime/Perl5/MOP.pm line 36.ā¤] | ||
| pmurias | #kp6 my $p=Pair.new(2,3);say $p | 19:30 | |
| exp_evalbot | r17323: OUTPUT[Undefined subroutine &main:: called at lib/KindaPerl6/Runtime/Perl5/MOP.pm line 36.ā¤] | ||
| moritz_ | #kp6 class Main { has $p=Pair.new(2,3); say $p; } | ||
| exp_evalbot | r17323: OUTPUT[syntax error at - line 3, near "( sub GLOBAL::p "ā¤Execution of - aborted due to compilation errors.ā¤] | ||
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| pugs_svnbot | r17324 | pmurias++ | kp6: basic Hash implementation (using the latest syntax sugar) | 19:46 | |
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17324 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 17324 - Pugs - Trac | ||
| pmurias | moritz_: the exp_evalbot is updated by hand? | ||
| i mean the kp6 in exp_evalbot | 19:47 | ||
| moritz_ | pmurias: yes :( | 19:51 | |
| pmurias: I added a cronjob, but somehow it doesn't run | |||
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| moritz_ | I never bootet the chroot, no wonder it didn't run | 19:52 | |
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| DarkWolf84 | I made short program wich prints first 10 numbers in fibunacci sequence :) | 20:07 | |
| masak | ?eval (@fib := 0, 1, @fib >>+<< @@fib[1..*])[^10] | 20:09 | |
| pugsbot_r17185 | Error: ā¤Unexpected " :="ā¤expecting "::"ā¤Variable "@fib" requires predeclaration or explicit package name | ||
| masak | ?eval (my @fib := 0, 1, @fib >>+<< @@fib[1..*])[^10] | ||
| pugsbot_r17185 | Error: ā¤Unexpected "["ā¤expecting "::"ā¤Variable "@@fib" requires predeclaration or explicit package name | ||
| DarkWolf84 | wow | ||
| masak | ?eval (my @fib := 0, 1, @fib >>+<< @fib[1..*])[^10] | ||
| pugsbot_r17185 | [0, 1, undef, undef, undef, undef, undef, undef, undef, undef] | ||
| masak | :/ | ||
| DarkWolf84 | mine wasn't that shorter | 20:10 | |
| but works | |||
| masak | :) | ||
| DarkWolf84 | :) | ||
| masak | yeah | ||
| masak goes to look in examples/ | |||
| PerlJam | masak: I think perhaps pugs isn't that lazy yet. | 20:11 | |
| DarkWolf84 | ?eval my ($last,$now)=(0,1); ($now=$last+$now,"\n",$last=$now+$last).say for 1..10; | ||
| pugsbot_r17185 | OUTPUT[1ā¤1ā¤2ā¤3ā¤5ā¤8ā¤13ā¤21ā¤34ā¤55ā¤89ā¤144ā¤233ā¤377ā¤610ā¤987ā¤1597ā¤2584ā¤4181ā¤6765ā¤] undef | ||
| DarkWolf84 | :) | ||
| masak | PerlJam: it's been known to work | ||
| DarkWolf84 | but with pugs really can make short programs | 20:12 | |
| pugs_svnbot | r17325 | moritz++ | added svn-search, an web based and (of course) experimental | ||
| r17325 | moritz++ | search in the pugs svn logs. | |||
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17325 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 17325 - Pugs - Trac | ||
| DarkWolf84 | :) | ||
| masak | yes | ||
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| DarkWolf84 | ?eval (1, 2, 3).HOW.methods | 20:55 | |
| pugsbot_r17185 | Error: No such method in class Class: "&methods" | ||
| DarkWolf84 | ?eval 42.HOW.methods | ||
| pugsbot_r17185 | ["LIST","ITEM","bless"] | ||
| DarkWolf84 | maybe bug again | ||
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| DarkWolf84 | why there is no .methods method on list | 20:56 | |
| wolverian | ?eval [1..3].HOW.methods | 20:57 | |
| pugsbot_r17185 | Error: No such method in class Class: "&methods" | ||
| wolverian | bug. :) | ||
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| masak | ...which doesn't seem to have a test | 21:03 | |
| I'll add one | |||
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| masak | but where? t/oo/meta_class.t? | 21:04 | |
| hm, perhaps t/data_types/array.t | 21:05 | ||
| ?eval [1,2,3].HOW | |||
| pugsbot_r17185 | \Class.new(("is" => ("Lazy",)), ("name" => "Array")) | 21:06 | |
| masak | ah-ha! | ||
| not exactly _wrong_, is it? just... kinda wrong | |||
| is it unreasonable to expect the above to be equal (in the is() sense of 'equal') to "Array"? | 21:07 | ||
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| masak | ?eval [1,2,3].isa('Array') | 21:09 | |
| pugsbot_r17185 | Bool::True | ||
| masak | hrm | ||
| DarkWolf84 | mine says just {obj:Class} | 21:10 | |
| :) | |||
| maybe I have to update my version | |||
| masak | no, I don't think so | ||
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| masak | seems that isa() does the right thing | 21:10 | |
| but .HOW does... something else | 21:11 | ||
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| masak | so... | 21:17 | |
| either .HOW reports things in the wrong format and is at fault | 21:18 | ||
| or one is not meant to ever do [1,2,3].HOW eq 'Array', and should always use isa() | 21:19 | ||
| question is, which one is it? | |||
| DarkWolf84 | [1,2,3].HOW | 21:21 | |
| oops | |||
| ?eval[1,2,3].HOW | |||
| lambdabot | Unknown command, try @list | ||
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| pugsbot_r17185 | \Class.new(("is" => ("Lazy",)), ("name" => "Array")) | 21:21 | |
| DarkWolf84 | ?eval (1,2,3).HOW | 21:22 | |
| pugsbot_r17185 | \Class.new(("is" => ("Lazy",)), ("name" => "Array")) | ||
| DarkWolf84 | the same | ||
| ?eval < 1 2 3 >.HOW | |||
| pugsbot_r17185 | \Class.new(("is" => ("Lazy",)), ("name" => "Array")) | ||
| masak | yes, those should all be the same | ||
| DarkWolf84 | I know but I wanna test | 21:23 | |
| :) | |||
| masak | mm, good | ||
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| Tanja | alooooooooooooooooooooo | 23:09 | |
| alooooooooooooooo | |||
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| DarkWolf84 | O_O | 23:53 | |