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| duzy | greeting... | 08:31 | |
| bloonix | morning :-) | 08:46 | |
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| pugs_svn | r18841 | fglock++ | [kp6] added 'perl5rx' backend to script/run_tests.pl | 10:50 | |
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| pugs_svn | r18842 | fglock++ | [kp6] improved test-driven development a bit: | 11:27 | |
| r18842 | fglock++ | - added "--section=todo" option to script/run_tests.pl | |||
| r18842 | fglock++ | - moved failing tests (failing in the Perl 5 backend) to t/todo | |||
| r18842 | fglock++ | - "make test" runs all tests that are supposed to pass; | |||
| r18842 | fglock++ | - "make test_todo" runs all tests that are supposed to fail | |||
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| xinming_ | @seen audreyt | 13:49 | |
| lambdabot | audreyt is in #haskell and #ghc. I don't know when audreyt last spoke. | ||
| moritz_ | xinming_: according to the irc logs at irclog.perlgeek.de/search.pl?channe...eyt&q= the last activity was 2007-07-15 in this channel | 14:01 | |
| lambdabot | Title: IRC logs - Search | ||
| xinming_ misses audreyt. even if she never commit. >_< | 14:05 | ||
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| masak | xinming_: that sentiment is probably shared by many here. but it seems that audreyt needs to recharge and find a more sustainable lifestyle. 2005/2006 were likely very draining for her. I wish her all the rest she deserves, and that she not feel obliged to come back before she feels ready. | 14:09 | |
| in the meantime, I'm trying to understand pugs while it's not a moving target :) | |||
| moritz_: how does the highlighting work in the above search link? | 14:14 | ||
| it seems pretty random | |||
| moritz_ | masak: it pretty much works if no matches are in the context | ||
| masak: every search result is padded with 2 (I think) lines of context ... | 14:15 | ||
| masak: and if results occur in the context they aren't hilighted | |||
| I'm to lazy to do it right[tm] | |||
| the logs show that the search isn't used very much, so I see no point in it | 14:16 | ||
| masak | oki | ||
| no worries | |||
| just a bit confused over the logic behind it :) | 14:17 | ||
| moritz_ | .oO( it's all in the pugs repo, so feel free to fix it ;) |
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| masak | great :) | ||
| masak puts it on some abstract personal TODO list | |||
| moritz_ wonders if he shouldn't use sphinx or some other OSS search engine | 14:18 | ||
| mysql is very slow when many matches are found | |||
| or my implementation using mysql, that is ;) | |||
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| buetow | nick pbuetow | 14:22 | |
| ups | |||
| sorry | |||
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| pugs_svn | r18843 | fglock++ | [kp6] added t/todo/63-autovivify.t | 15:15 | |
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| pugs_svn | r18844 | fglock++ | [kp6] added Runtime::Perl5::Container; to be refactored out from MOP.pm | 15:37 | |
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| pugs_svn | r18845 | fglock++ | [kp6] finished Container extraction | 16:02 | |
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| dlocaus waves "hello" | 16:43 | ||
| moritz_ waves back | |||
| dlocaus | sorry guys, been working on another project "off and on" | ||
| moritz_ | dlocaus: most of us work that way | 16:44 | |
| no need to apologize | 16:45 | ||
| dlocaus | :) | ||
| kp6 is a mini project to help get perl6 going? | 16:50 | ||
| dlocaus was reading v6/docs/kp6-roadmap-...? | |||
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| moritz_ | dlocaus: it's one of the possible bootstrapping roads | 16:51 | |
| dlocaus | what is pugs then? | ||
| moritz_ | another road ;) | 16:52 | |
| PerlJam | A haskell implementation of perl 6. | ||
| dlocaus: There are several implementation-paths for perl 6: haskell, perl5, parrot (and maybe others that I don't know about) | 16:53 | ||
| dlocaus | parrot? Isn't parrot the "assembly" code of perl6? | ||
| actually, a CISC set for perl6? | |||
| PerlJam | something like that. | ||
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| moritz_ | dlocaus: yes, but there's a parrot based implemetation as well... | 16:54 | |
| dlocaus: parrot comes with compiler tools (TGE, PGE) that are very handy | |||
| dlocaus | hummm | ||
| moritz_ | the big difference between kp6 and the other projects is that kp6 is written in itself | 16:55 | |
| s/written/compiled by/ | |||
| nearly there, at least | |||
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| dlocaus | ok | 16:56 | |
| PerlJam | and while pugs and kp6 are specifically for perl 6, parrot is meant to be used for other languages as well. | 16:57 | |
| (hence the compiler tools) | |||
| dlocaus | yes. | 16:58 | |
| It's just trying to figure out how kp6 works. | |||
| moritz_ | it's run by magic | ||
| PerlJam | dlocaus: hang around here an ask questions :) | ||
| moritz_ | small fairies whirling through your CPU and memory | ||
| dlocaus | at the moment, I have to re-install firefox... for some reason, its not processing file types properly | ||
| .txt, .jpg etc.. | 16:59 | ||
| PerlJam | moritz_: so ... the reason we don't have perl 6 today is not enough fairies? ;) | ||
| dlocaus | moritz_: is there anything I can help with? | ||
| moritz_ | PerlJam: yes | 17:00 | |
| dlocaus: I'm not up-to-date atm... try to ask fglock or spinclad | |||
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| dlocaus | fglock: is there anything I can help out with? | 17:00 | |
| I saw there was soemthing about refactoring MOP -> Runtime::(lost to memory) | 17:01 | ||
| fglock | dlocaus: I'm working on autovivification atm | ||
| pmurias | dlocaus: parrot is the cpu , pir is the assembly | ||
| fglock | I've added several TODO items to the list | ||
| dlocaus would die without wikipedia. | 17:02 | ||
| fglock looks up TODO in wikipedia | 17:03 | ||
| dlocaus | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autovivification | ||
| lambdabot | Title: Autovivification - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | ||
| fglock | ah, that | ||
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| dlocaus | r18844 | fglock++ | [kp6] added Runtime::Perl5::Container; to be refactored out from MOP.pm | 17:05 | |
| that is what I was looking for. | 17:06 | ||
| opps... he finished it | |||
| pugs_svn | r18846 | fglock++ | [kp6] partial impl of $a{'key'} autovivification | ||
| fglock | dlocaus: you could factor out "Value" (including Str, Int, ...) | 17:07 | |
| dlocaus | fglock: I would be happy to. Can you tell me how you what you want the destination code look like? | 17:08 | |
| ie: dlocaus: find each $::Int=make_class(...)+related code and put it into Rutime::Perl5::(insert name here)? | 17:09 | ||
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| dlocaus | fglock: do you want me to use Runtime::Perl5::Container for as an example? | 17:10 | |
| fglock | dlocaus: yes - it starts near $::Value, and the module is Value.pm | 17:11 | |
| it doesn't need to include the "dispatch" thing, because that belongs to Object | |||
| dlocaus | you just want a ".pl" file of sorts, you are not looking for a "package" delcarion correct? | ||
| "grep package Container.pm" yields no results. | 17:12 | ||
| fglock | svk up ? | ||
| dlocaus | I am upto date | ||
| there is no "package" in the file | |||
| fglock | svn.pugscode.org/pugs/v6/v6-KindaPe...ntainer.pm | 17:13 | |
| lambdabot | tinyurl.com/ypnt38 | ||
| fglock | the classes are global - there is no "package" | ||
| they are "perl 6" "packages" | |||
| dlocaus | I mean | ||
| package Runtime::Perl5::Container; | |||
| fglock | yes, there are only "Perl 6 land" classes | 17:14 | |
| dlocaus | while the classes are global, I'm not sure what happens to the variables declared in files like Container.pm | ||
| fglock | which are created with make_class | ||
| "Scalar" is stored in $main::Scalar in Perl 5 | 17:15 | ||
| dlocaus | oh I see | ||
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| dlocaus | ok, off I go | 17:15 | |
| to work on his | |||
| this | |||
| fglock | coffee & | 17:16 | |
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| dlocaus | make test does not work on the current respository... investigating. | 17:32 | |
| fglock | b | 17:35 | |
| dlocaus | script/run_tests.pl --backend=perl5 does not complete on TAP::Harness (Test::Harness 3.0) | 17:38 | |
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| pugs_svn | r18847 | dlo++ | [kp6] a small addon to make sure the test(s) actually exist before running them. -dlocaus | 17:59 | |
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| dlocaus | is there an cpan irc channel? | 18:08 | |
| for the people maintaince rt.perl.org? | 18:09 | ||
| sorry, rt.cpan.org | |||
| fglock | dlocaus: there is a channel for p5p (perl 5 core devel) | 18:13 | |
| dlocaus | humm, not quite what I was looking for | ||
| I spotted this on Tap::Harness's RT listing | 18:14 | ||
| rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=30718 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: #30718: Notice:***Your email account will be suspended*** | ||
| dlocaus | looks like a virus | ||
| I'll check out p5p | 18:15 | ||
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| obra | dlocaus: perl.org squashes most of the spam hitting rt.cpan.org, but, well, some will always leak through | 18:54 | |
| dlocaus | obra: oh, I thought that was an intential hack... as some malware writers are now custom targetting their victims. | ||
| obra | nah. | 18:57 | |
| dlocaus | :) | ||
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| pugs_svn | r18848 | fglock++ | [misc/pX] added "Toto" domain-specific language (very early devel stage, uses v6.pm) | 19:17 | |
| fglock | this is my current $work | 19:18 | |
| dlocaus | what's a bug and what is user error? | 19:22 | |
| TAP::Harness->new( { exec => [ 'perl', '', '-Bperl5' ] } ); | |||
| The empty quotes cause TAP::Harness to behave well weird. | |||
| The empty quotes shouldn't be there, but then TAP::Harness should be cleaning it input some what. | |||
| Should I report this as a but to TAP::Harness? | |||
| /as a but/as a bug/ | |||
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| moritz_ | you could report a whishlist bug... | 19:24 | |
| saying they should produce a warning | |||
| dlocaus | ah, good idea | ||
| pugs_svn | r18849 | dlo++ | [kp6] Test::Harness 3.00+, does not like having empty quotes in the exec=> [ ... ], it causes wierd behavior | ||
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| pugs_svn | r18850 | fglock++ | [misc/pX/.../Toto] added License | 19:29 | |
| moritz_ | uhm, debian-legal wouldn't be happy with that license statement, but I guess the rest of the world is ;) | 19:30 | |
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| dlocaus | ok, getting lunch, then back to MOP->Value.pm | 19:36 | |
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| fglock | moritz_: I'm working on the license | 19:41 | |
| moritz_ | fglock: no worries ;) | ||
| fglock: this is one of the classic BSD licenses, iirc: www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php | 19:42 | ||
| lambdabot | Title: Open Source Initiative OSI - The MIT License:Licensing | Open Source Initiative | ||
| moritz_ | www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php <-- the OpenBSD version | 19:43 | |
| lambdabot | Title: Open Source Initiative OSI - The BSD License:Licensing | Open Source Initiative | ||
| pugs_svn | r18851 | fglock++ | [misc...Toto] fixed license (reused from Language::Tea from CPAN); | 19:44 | |
| r18851 | fglock++ | grammar now allows SQL-style comments | |||
| fglock | this is better | ||
| moritz_ | yes, indeed | ||
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| fglock | home & | 19:48 | |
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| pugs_svn | r18852 | dlo++ | [kp6] added some minor documentation for Container.pm | 20:01 | |
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| dlocaus | I gotta work on the other project now, I'll be back later... | 20:59 | |
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| moritz_ | ciao | 21:00 | |
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