pugscode.org/ | nopaste: sial.org/pbot/perl6 | pugs: [~] <m oo se> (or rakudo:, kp6:, smop: etc.) || We do Haskell, too | > reverse . show $ foldl1 (*) [1..4] | irclog: irc.pugscode.org/
Set by TimToady on 25 January 2008.
dolmen your test is breaking the rakudo patch I just sent :( 00:00
pmichaud yes, that's why I did it. :-)
I've fixed the patch. 00:01
just running spectest_regression on it now, then will commit.
dolmen how much time left? 00:05
pmichaud just finished.... committing now
dolmen will have a good night :)
rakudo_svn r27835 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: 00:07
r27835 | pmichaud++ | * Add an implementation of infix:<xx>, from RT#54870 (dolmen++)
r27835 | pmichaud++ | * Patch courtesy Olivier Mengu?\195?\169 <olivier.mengue at gmail.com>
r27835 | pmichaud++ | * One minor change to handle negative repetition values.
pmichaud time for some dinner. 00:08
bbl.
dolmen time for sleep. 00:11
bye
Auzon It seems smartlinks cannot be included in multiple Spec files at once. 00:16
Auzon or maybe they can, if they are adjacent. 00:21
perl6: say @*INC 00:23
exp_evalbot kp6: OUTPUT[␤]
..pugs: OUTPUT[␤]
..rakudo: OUTPUT[␤]
..elf: OUTPUT[.␤]
Auzon TimToady: (or anyone else) @*INC isn't mentioned anywhere in the specs. I thought it would be in S02 somewhere under Names and Variables. Is it still named @*INC? 00:26
TimToady: I see tests for #line directives and $?POSITION, as well as $?CALLER::POSITION (see t/magicals/line_basic.t and t/magicals/caller_pos.t), but I do not see them in the specs anywhere. 00:28
pugs_svnbot r20547 | Auzon++ | [gsoc_spectest] Test reorganization. 00:30
pugs_svnbot r20548 | Auzon++ | [gsoc_spectest] added tests for existence of PERLVER, OS, OSVER variables. 00:42
r20549 | Auzon++ | [gsoc_spectest] tabs to spaces. 00:45
Auzon pugs: say :10<:2<1.1>> 00:46
exp_evalbot OUTPUT[21.1␤]
Auzon pugs: say :2<1.1>
exp_evalbot OUTPUT[1.5␤]
Auzon pugs: say :2<1000>
exp_evalbot OUTPUT[8␤]
Auzon pugs: say :16(:2<10000>) 00:47
exp_evalbot OUTPUT[22␤]
Auzon hm.
bacek perl6: say int(-0.5) 01:03
exp_evalbot kp6: OUTPUT[syntax error at position 7, line 1 column 7:␤say int(-0.5␤ ^ HERE␤]
..pugs: OUTPUT[0␤]
..rakudo: OUTPUT[-0␤]
..elf: OUTPUT[syntax error at (eval 14) line 3, near "))"␤ at ./elf_f_faster line 4456␤]
bacek pugs: use Test; my @p = (1..3); is(pop @p, 3, 'match'); 01:16
exp_evalbot OUTPUT[pugs: *** Unsafe function 'use' called under safe mode␤ at /tmp/Arb8o5TYUO line 1, column 1␤]
bacek pugs: my @p = (1..3); is(pop @p, 3, 'match') 01:17
exp_evalbot OUTPUT[*** No such subroutine: "&is"␤ at /tmp/zdJqdQJPkl line 1, column 17 - line 2, column 1␤]
bacek pugs: sub is($a,$b) { say $a == $b }; my @p = (1..3); is(pop @p, 3)
exp_evalbot OUTPUT[1␤]
diakopter Auzon: [do you know whether] are there currently tests for $_ (testing things that set it; getting it) 03:06
Auzon I don't currently know, but ack can answer me quickly.
There are some in t/var/default_scalar.t .... looking for more 03:07
diakopter S05 mentions how rules interact with it 03:08
Auzon A lot of test cases use $_ for shorthand, but the one I mentioned seemed to be the only test of it as a special variable. 03:09
There are some test testing 'for'.
diakopter I wonder if the "is topic" property is still specified 03:10
Auzon an ack says no. 03:11
$_ is mentioned along with "topic" in a few places
diakopter I guess one could search for " .amethod" 03:12
Auzon "amethod" only finds "metamethod" 03:13
diakopter oh, I meant " .anything" 03:14
the implicit invocant
Auzon nothing there either. 03:15
not much for "anything" either
diakopter there's this thread. I don't know if it got resolved. www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6....22263.html 03:16
lambdabot Title: Re: How to write a self.pm (Re: method calls on $self) - nntp.perl.org, tinyurl.com/6r6uyz
diakopter reads S04 (more) 03:21
pmichaud there was a good discussion of $_ on #parrot a few days ago 03:48
pmichaud www.parrotcode.org/misc/parrotsketc...t.20080519 (search for TimToady and that will get you near the beginning of the conversation) 03:51
lambdabot tinyurl.com/629aef
diakopter I like this log viewer: irclog.perlgeek.de/parrot/2008-05-19#i_299618 03:59
lambdabot Title: IRC log for #parrot, 2008-05-19
pmichaud oh, that's excellent. 04:00
pmichaud bookmarks.
rakudo_svn r27840 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: 05:28
r27840 | pmichaud++ | * Fix typos and trailing spaces.
pugs_svnbot r20550 | bacek++ | dies_ok and lives_ok now implemented in rakudo. Remove #?rakudo skip 07:48
r20551 | bacek++ | Change mis-leading comment in #?rakudo skip
r20552 | bacek++ | Add #?rakudo skip for colon ivokation syntax 07:51
r20553 | bacek++ | Add more rakudo guards to include in spectest_regression
pugs_svnbot r20554 | pmurias++ | [elf] default attribiute handling in elf_faster 09:22
moritz_ bacek_: if you modify files in t/spec, please include [spec] in the commit message 09:23
@tell Auzon re @*INC it's unlikely that it will be in the spec because the module handling is decoupled from the file system (to support unicode and case sensitive module names that the filesysstem doesn't support) 09:29
lambdabot Consider it noted.
moritz_ @tell Auzon re whitespaces/tabs: the consensus is 4 space. See docs/Pugs/Doc/Hack.pod section Editing for details 09:39
lambdabot Consider it noted.
moritz_ pmurias: is the current svn revision enough to identify the elf version? 09:43
pugs_svnbot r20555 | moritz++ | [evalbot] first attempt to incorporate revision numbers into 'perl6:' output 09:49
moritz_ perl6: say "hi" 09:50
pugs_svnbot r20556 | moritz++ | [evalbot] second try 09:51
moritz_ perl6: say "hi" 09:52
exp_evalbot kp6 r20556: OUTPUT[hi␤]
..pugs: OUTPUT[hi␤]
..rakudo r: OUTPUT[hi␤]
..elf r20556: OUTPUT[hi␤]
moritz_ rakudo: say "hi" 09:53
exp_evalbot OUTPUT[hi␤]
pugs_svnbot r20557 | moritz++ | [evalbot] rakudo should now tell its svn revision 09:55
moritz_ rakudo: say "hi" 09:55
exp_evalbot rakudo r 27842OUTPUT[hi␤]
moritz_ perl6: say "test" 09:56
exp_evalbot kp6 r20557: OUTPUT[test␤]
..pugs: OUTPUT[test␤]
..rakudo r27842: OUTPUT[test␤]
..elf r20557: OUTPUT[test␤]
pugs_svnbot r20558 | moritz++ | [evalbot] whitespace fix 09:57
moritz_ rakudo: say "test"
moritz_ rakudo: say "test" 09:57
exp_evalbot rakudo r27842 OUTPUT[test␤]
bacek_ moritz_, ok 10:05
pmurias moritz_: the revision number should be enough 11:38
moritz_ pmurias: good, that's implemented now 11:39
detrolex im looking for some really interesting regex stuff 13:26
anyone got any
like you know for fun:P
diakopter detrolex: do you mean interesting rules?
detrolex yeah! 13:27
diakopter I don't know [of] any
moritz_ detrolex: you can t try to understand Perl 6' standard grammar ;) 13:28
detrolex :P
in time my friend, in time
moritz_ detrolex: what kind of fun are you after? crafting regexes yourself? 13:29
detrolex: the most robust solution on perl 6 ground is certainly PGE, so I'd suggest playing with that 13:31
detrolex let me have a look 13:35
moritz_ afk 13:42
rakudo_svn r27848 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: 15:14
r27848 | pmichaud++ | * Update $! handling in 'try' blocks.
r27848 | pmichaud++ | * bacek++ for ideas and suggestions on this.
cj hey folks 15:47
moritz_ hey cj
cj where is the p6 grammar documented?
moritz_ (that even rhymes)
in svn.pugscode.org/pugs/src/perl6/STD.pm 15:48
cj moritz_: "hey" doesn't sound like "jota" 15:50
I'm so confused! :)
moritz_ cj: I'd prononunce your name "cee-jay" ;) 15:51
cj yeah, me too, but sometimes I use "say-jota" to be different :) 15:52
cj so, which tokens are involved in C<<say "hello, world!">> ? 15:53
moritz_ uhm, many
you might try cheat+gimme5+STD5_run to find out 15:54
cj I'd like to get the list so I can start create a simple DLR implementation
eh?
moritz_ look at src/perl6 15:54
larry hacked up a few tools that can mostly run STD.pm by now 15:55
'cheat' simplifies the grammar
cj moritz_: oh? what kinds of tools?
moritz_ and 'gimme5' translates it to perl 5 code
and 'STD5_run' executes the result of './cheat STD.pm | gimme5 > STD5.pm' 15:56
pmichaud rakudo's parse of C<<say "hello, world!">> : nopaste.snit.ch/13082
it's not exactly the same as what STD.pm will give, but it's pretty close.
moritz_ cj: and you might be interested in 'elf', which is a bootstrapped Perl 6 compiler that uses a ruby-translation of STD.pm as its grammar
it lives in misc/elf/ in the pugs repo 15:57
cj maybe I ought to just start with C<<"hello, world!">> 16:00
moritz_ ;)
cj who is raduko, and how how do I get her to emit the AST (that's what it is, isn't it) for "hello, world!" ? 16:01
moritz_ rakudo is Perl 6 on parrot
../../parrot perl6.pbc --target=parse 16:02
../../parrot perl6.pbc --target=parse $file # actually
parrot is svn.perl.org/parrot/trunk, and rakudo is in languages/perl6
lambdabot Title: Revision 27849: /trunk
cj build build build 16:07
pmichaud what I just displayed was the parse tree 16:09
for the ast, use --target=past
rakudo's ast for C<< say "hello, world!" >> : nopaste.snit.ch/13083 16:11
cj cc -o miniparrot src/main.o \ -Wl,-rpath=/usr/src/svn/parrot/trunk/blib/lib -L/usr/src/svn/parrot/trunk/blib/lib -lparrot -lpthread -lm -L/usr/lib -licuuc -licudata -lpthread -lm -ldl -lm -lpthread -lcrypt -lrt -lreadline -lpcre -lcrypto -L/usr/local/lib -Wl,-E src/null_config.o 16:13
/usr/src/svn/parrot/trunk/blib/lib/libparrot.so: undefined reference to `U16_GET_UNSAFE'
cj $ apt-file search u16.h 16:14
hurm... 16:15
er, utf16.h, probably :)
$ sudo apt-get install libicu36-dev
pmichaud afk # lunch, errands 16:17
pmurias avar: would you be interested with working on the elf lisp backend? 17:03
avar elf?
moritz_ a bootstrapped perl 6 compiler with perl 5 backend and ruby-translated STD.pm as a parser 17:04
pmurias developed mainly by mncharity 17:06
moritz_ and extended a bit by pmurias ;)
pmurias ;) 17:07
moritz_ feather's apache won't start, says "no space left on device" 17:09
odlly there's pretty much left
a 'aptitude autoclean' freed 1GB 17:10
perlpunks.de/paste/show/483c40b4.14db.28a any idea what the offending partition could be? 17:12
all partitions are mounted rw 17:14
diakopter it's the tmp
moritz_ with 4GB still available?
Auzon Is there a running instance of Apache? 17:15
lambdabot Auzon: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
Juerd moritz_: Have you straced yet?
Auzon /msg lambdabot @messages
moritz_ Juerd: no
Auzon wtf.
Juerd moritz_: Do you have time or do you want me to do it?
moritz_ Auzon: leading non-printable char
Auzon yeah... but still
Juerd Auzon: Just say "messages" in the channel :)
Auzon I didn't want to flood it ;)
Juerd Eh, @messages
2 is doable :)
moritz_ Juerd: I'll try, but I don't know if I'll have any luck 17:16
Juerd moritz_: Let me know your findings
What was that new channel again?
moritz_ Juerd: #perl6-soc ?
Juerd Ah, danke 17:17
pmurias avar: elf lives in the pugs repo under misc/elf
avar it's bootstrapped already? 17:19
diakopter moritz_: fix-ed
Auzon Yep. It's written in Perl 6.
moritz_ diakopter++ 17:20
diakopter: what did you do to fix it?
diakopter thanks to myrandomreviews.com/2007/11/17/no-s..._log_lock/
lambdabot Title: 49 No space left on device: mod_rewrite: could not create rewrite_log_lock 36, tinyurl.com/5o75ey
moritz_ ah, I see
Juerd diakopter++ for fixing
moritz++ for trying
pmurias avar: the parser is not bootstraped but everything else is 17:31
pugs_svnbot r20559 | pmurias++ | added quotemeta 17:35
r20559 | pmurias++ | replaced a use of Data::Dumper with quotemeta
r20559 | pmurias++ | marked a HACK
pugs_svnbot r20560 | moritz++ | [svn-search] 17:36
r20560 | moritz++ | * :retab
r20560 | moritz++ | * change index order to hopefully get consistently sorted results
pmurias swimming& 17:42
pugs_svnbot r20561 | moritz++ | [svn-search] previous commit didn't work, let's try it revision by revision :(
diakopter [particle]: did you ever get re-engine-TRE running on windows? 17:47
[particle] no. did i ever try?
diakopter [particle]: irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2008-02-22#i_211606 17:48
lambdabot Title: IRC log for #perl6, 2008-02-22
[particle] i guess i did try. never got it working, and no longer need it, as TimToady has moved away from tre 17:53
diakopter Cursor5.pm in svn wants it 17:55
diakopter well, I got further by grabbing the libintl stuff from mingw-gettext-0.17-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm... but now it's failing on regerror.o:regerror.c:(.text+0x25): undefined reference to `libintl_gettext' 18:06
that could be b/c it's amd64; oops
cj make: *** No rule to make target `src/call_list.txt', needed by `src/nci.c'. Stop. 19:08
hurm. 19:09
japhb ur?
moritz_ cj: I've ssen that error on a mailing list resently
cj rafb.net/p/yyJGrU20.html
lambdabot Title: Nopaste - No description
japhb cj: the problem is that you did make clean instead of make realclean
cj oh. 19:10
nobody tells me these things.
japhb cj: It's a bug, make clean should have done the right thing
cj realcleaning
japhb cj: the patch is already submitted, but hasn't been accepted yet.
cj it has to be accepted before applied!? I thought this was perl! 19:11
k. I'm going to lunch while that churns
japhb cj: Parrot is rather un-Pugs-ish in that respect. 19:12
moritz_ ;)
pmurias i once took part in a python project where my patches were refactored before being applied, which really nice 19:26
ron_ rakudo: sub foo($a) {say $a} ; my $x = ; 19:36
exp_evalbot rakudo r27852 OUTPUT[Statement not terminated properly at line 1, near "= ;"␤current instr.: 'parrot;PGE::Util;die' pc 120 (runtime/parrot/library/PGE/Util.pir:82)␤
ron_ non terminated example above seems to core dump when run as ./perl6.exe or ./perl6 under cygwin OR ubuntu 19:39
moritz_ builds perl6 19:40
works fine in debian 19:41
ron_ updated to 27852 under cygwin afaict - will try to keep looking 19:43
Auzon ron_: doesn't core dump or anything for me either 19:44
moritz_ should we deduce that ubuntu is just as weird (as development platform) as windows? *g* 19:46
wolverian let me try, sec
(I have ubuntu)
ron_ Statement not terminated properly at line 1, near "= ;\r\n\r\n# r" ...current instr.: 'parrot;PGE::Util;die' pc 120 (runtime/parrot/library/PGE/Util.pir:82) ... many lines ... called from Sub 'parrot;Perl6::Compiler;main' pc 10064 (perl6.pir:186) then Aborted (core dumped) 19:47
wolverian git svn rebasing first...
armagad_ moritz_: Don't like Mark hear you say that 19:48
He will send the Shuttleworthnauts to whoop you 19:49
moritz_ armagad_: if Mark would listen to me I could tell him lots of things ;)
wolverian oops, I'm using the git mirror already
no wonder git svn was slow :)
pmurias is @array:k legal perl6? 20:01
pmurias i can't find the place where it is specced and @array.:k also exists 20:01
moritz_ pmurias: I've seen it recently, let me take a look... 20:02
S02:1532 might be a start
that applies to @array[*]:k at least 20:03
don't know if it applies to @array directly, but I think it should 20:04
wolverian *** glibc detected *** ./perl6: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0000000000e83310 *** 20:09
moritz_ valgrind!
wolverian this with 27852
pmurias moritz_: S02:1532 is where it took the code from
wolverian the program ron_ pasted
on ubuntu 8.04
moritz_ sometimes I think that Perl 6 is so vast that I'll never going to learn it 20:10
and I can hardly imagine it being fully implemented
wolverian moritz_, installing...
Auzon Are the cross referenced tests being smoked regularly?
perlcabal.org/syn/ , that is
lambdabot Title: Official Perl 6 Documentation
pmurias moritz_: it's the perl5 that I'm afraid I'll never full learn 20:11
* fully
moritz_ Auzon: I think so, yes - once a day
wolverian glares at the 37mb valgrind package 20:12
moritz_ Auzon: but since pugs is as dead as a open source dog can be I wouldn't pay the smokes too much attention 20:14
Auzon Hm, ok.
wolverian lots of valgrind warnings 20:15
huh, with valgrind I don't get the core dump 20:16
moritz_ maybe valgrinds intercepts it somehow
wolverian yeah 20:17
pmurias avar: if you have any requests/question concerning elf please don't hestiate to ask ;) 20:18
TimToady Auzon: we might possibly have an @*INC, but if so, it would only be for the user's unofficial modules
Auzon TimToady: Alright. Is there any way to check the traits of a variable/subroutine/module/etc? 20:20
TimToady traits that want to be checkable should be mixing in an appropriately named method
wolverian I'm failing to use allyoop :(
it doesn't want to open the source files for the errors
oh, -I 20:22
pmurias TimToady: why does both @a.kv @a.:kv and @a:kv exist and what's the diffrence?
pugs_svnbot r20562 | pmurias++ | [elf] removed p5 prototypes from methods (useless)
r20562 | pmurias++ | removed a couple of nonspec methods
wolverian damn, still doesn't work
moritz_ pmurias: @array[1,3,5].kv will return 0, 1, 2 as keys 20:23
TimToady there's no such thing as @a:kb
:kv
pmurias there is @a:k
TimToady no
there is @a[@x]:k
adverbs modify operators, not nouns 20:24
the :k is modifying the subscript operator
pmurias S09:532
wolverian at least I have the relevant stack trace now 20:25
anyone want it? :)
moritz_ is @a[@x]:k translated to @a.postcircumfix:<[ ]>(@x, :k) ?
wolverian: [email@hidden.address] wants it
wolverian okies
TimToady well, S09 is wrong :)
cj cool. parrot compiled for me :)
TimToady I believe that passage in S09 was written before we'd invented .:kv and such 20:26
pmurias .:kv invokes the :kv method? 20:27
TimToady presumably--we're more interested in the way %x.:delete<x> works with that notation 20:28
but generically it's a way of modifying a subscript from the front instead of the back
likewise %x.:exists<x>
the syntax also gets used for :r file tests 20:29
wolverian moritz_, does it take attachments?
TimToady so the S09 attempt to apply :kv to a noun is just a fossil, I think
moritz_ wolverian: I think so 20:30
avar pmurias: is the misc/elf directory self-contained?
pmurias avar: it uses misc/STD_red for parsing
avar so I can just check out misc?
wolverian moritz_, sent
pmurias avar: yes
moritz_ wolverian++ 20:31
wolverian damn, I forgot to attach the actual full backtrace
but uh, I don't know how to redirect that to a file
it seems to want to go to the terminal, no matter what I do... 20:32
pmurias TimToady: i don't need to write a patch for S09? ;)
TimToady in any case, @foo:kv would now parse the :kv as an extension to the identifier 'foo'
Auzon wolverian: did you try 2>&1 >output.log
wolverian yes
TimToady I'll try to fix S09 later today
wolverian it still goes to the terminal
I had this problem with a python core dump too at some point 20:33
wolverian hm, gdb isn't helping much since I don't really know the parrot source 20:47
diakopter avar: I'm having a heckofa time installing re::engine::TRE on strawberry 5.10.0.1 may I nopaste you the dmake output? 21:21
TimToady: Cursor.pm wants re::engine::TRE - should I ignore that for now? 21:22
Cursor5.pm
avar diakopter: sure
Auzon diakopter: nopaste here: sial.org/pbot/perl6 21:26
meppl good night
pasteling "diakopter" at 209.9.237.164 pasted "dmake clean && perl Makefile.PL && dmake >out.log 2>&1" (795 lines, 28.8K) at sial.org/pbot/31135 21:28
diakopter avar: and that's after adding LIBS=>'-lintl -liconv' to the tre\Makefile.PL to stop it complaining about that 21:30
avar seems lke some odd linker error 21:31
yes it depends on gnu stuff implicitly I found:)
does building libtre by itself work on windows?
it has some test programs IIRC
diakopter failed with same error, if you mean the tre\Makefile.PL in re::engine::TRE 21:32
is there a separate package of libtre? 21:33
avar tre is a regex library distributed in its own package, I just include it 21:34
diakopter ohh.. 21:36
avar I'm not much help, I haven't built this in ages and I've forgotten how it all goes
But try to build the tre tar.gz you find on google
dolmen perl6: say "abc" eq "abc" 21:37
exp_evalbot kp6 r20562: OUTPUT[1␤]
..pugs: OUTPUT[1␤]
..rakudo r27856: OUTPUT[1␤]
..elf r20562: OUTPUT[1␤]
dolmen perl6: say "abc" !eq "abc"
exp_evalbot kp6 r20562: OUTPUT[syntax error at position 10, line 1 column 10:␤say "abc" !eq "abc␤ ^ HERE␤]
..pugs: OUTPUT[␤]
..rakudo r27856: OUTPUT[Statement not terminated properly at line 1, near "!eq \"abc\""␤current instr.: 'parrot;PGE::Util;die' pc 120 (runtime/parrot/library/PGE/Util.pir:82)␤
..elf r20562: OUTPUT[Unimplemented infix_prefix_meta_operator or infix_circumfix_meta_operator at ./elf_f_faster line 2744␤]
diakopter yikes; it appears I need Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 21:38
dolmen perl6: say "abc" ne "abc"
exp_evalbot kp6 r20562: OUTPUT[0␤]
..pugs: OUTPUT[␤]
..rakudo r27856: OUTPUT[0␤]
..elf r20562: OUTPUT[␤]
Auzon perl6: say "abc" eq "abc" 21:39
exp_evalbot kp6 r20562: OUTPUT[1␤]
..pugs: OUTPUT[1␤]
..rakudo r27856: OUTPUT[1␤]
..elf r20562: OUTPUT[1␤]
Auzon I'm glad we all agree on that.
avar pmichaud: the elf source tree is confusing:) 21:41
pmichaud not my fault. :-) 21:42
avar How does it compare to kp6 in completeness / bootstrapping etc
s/pmichaud/pmurias/
TimToady diakopter: as you no doubt have discovered, Cursor5 still requires tre 23:05
mainly because I discovered ways of working around most of its limitations, and I don't want to write a real DFA engine without real Perl 6... 23:07
speckbot r14546 | larry++ | Cleanup bogus use of adverbs on bare terms 23:20
mncharity avar: ping? 23:35
avar mncharity: pong 23:36
mncharity #!/usr/bin/env elf_f_faster\nuse v6; ... to write elfish scripts (assumes misc/elf is in your PATH; 23:37
avar Yes I saw that in the readme 23:38
mncharity elf_f_src/'s Elf_Faster.pm and EmitFasterP5.pm is an example of creating a variant in the elf_f_src directory, misc/elfish/showcode an example of building an elf derivative elsewhere. 23:38
run-tests.results_faster will give some idea of test status.
make rebuild will let you watch the self-compile. 23:39
in comparison to kp6, it's vastly faster, is using a non-p6 parser, and has a fairly, but not yet completely pure, bootstrap. 23:41
it's design focus was creating an environment to create p6 compilers.
long term, I'd ideally like EmitSimple to be refactored so the IR nodes call a microkernel vocabulary of methods to generate backend source, rather than doing it themselves. but not there yet. 23:43
mncharity runtime still doesn't really support named arguments, let alone closures. the performance demands of the combined parser/compiler define the constraints on runtime api/abi. and don't have a p6 parser yet. so have a multiple-api story with only moderate overhead, but I'm wondering whether to 23:46
convert STD_red to p6 first, to avoid unpleasant surprises. 23:47
pmurias: re 'the parser is not bootstraped but everything else is', a p6 runtime implementation doesn't exist either (ie, multimethod dispatch, etc). 23:52
so we're not quite ready to a p6 metacircular evaluator. 23:53
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