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Set by mst on 15 October 2019.
elcaro What's the recommneded way to re-build HEAD these days. I had an alias set up for years that used to work all the time: - 00:27
git pull && perl Configure.pl --gen-moar --gen-nqp --backends=moar --prefix=/usr/tools/perl6 && make && make install && make clean
but ever since the builds were modified (i guess to make them reproducable) the above alias fails sometimes 00:28
I think mainly after a Moar bump
when it fails I'll get a failure in NQP/Config.pm complaining that moar is too old 00:29
the old build system would update moar when it found the version was too old.
vrurg elcaro: please, use #raku, this channel is deprecated now. 00:38
moon_child vrurg: yet, this channel still has nearly 3x the user count 00:42
Doc_Holliwood releasable: help 00:43
releasable6 Doc_Holliwood, status | status link # See wiki for more examples: github.com/perl6/whateverable/wiki/Releasable
vrurg moon_child: a) this is wrong b) in either case today #raku had much higher activity. 00:56
and c) the higher number of users doesn't make this channel official anyway.
Doc_Holliwood releasable: when 01:26
releasable6 Doc_Holliwood, Next release will happen when it's ready. 1 blocker. Unknown changelog format
Doc_Holliwood, Details: gist.github.com/6a594008c2e858586a...91ad91a4dd
Doc_Holliwood releasable: next 01:27
releasable6 Doc_Holliwood, Next release will happen when it's ready. 1 blocker. Unknown changelog format
Doc_Holliwood, Details: gist.github.com/c198f99b55153c3ae3...3b945310b8
Doc_Holliwood releasable: changelog 01:36
releasable6 Doc_Holliwood, Next release will happen when it's ready. 1 blocker. Unknown changelog format
Doc_Holliwood, Details: gist.github.com/af545bd6a39debe3c2...5e5e8d900a
Doc_Holliwood releasable: info
releasable6 Doc_Holliwood, Next release will happen when it's ready. 1 blocker. Unknown changelog format
Doc_Holliwood, Details: gist.github.com/afa894a51d265f6dba...fd2dfd362d
Doc_Holliwood releasable: blockers
releasable6 Doc_Holliwood, I cannot recognize this command. See wiki for some examples: github.com/perl6/whateverable/wiki/Releasable
Doc_Holliwood releasable: blocker
releasable6 Doc_Holliwood, I cannot recognize this command. See wiki for some examples: github.com/perl6/whateverable/wiki/Releasable
Doc_Holliwood releasable: status 01:38
releasable6 Doc_Holliwood, Next release will happen when it's ready. 1 blocker. Unknown changelog format
Doc_Holliwood, Details: gist.github.com/2dcc22cd3c59357f49...ce98131068
AlexDaniel Doc_Holliwood: the changelog thing is if you want it to test a different changelog file 01:40
Doc_Holliwood yeah i was looking at the ticket, trying to figure out how to add "blocker" as an alias for "update" 01:41
AlexDaniel like 01:42
Doc_Holliwood i couldn't find where the lookup takes place, suspected deep magic
AlexDaniel releasable6: changelog gist.github.com/AlexDaniel/ce44d95...36156bc21e
releasable6 AlexDaniel, It looks like a URL, but mime type is ‘text/html; charset=utf-8’ while I was expecting something with ‘text/plain’ or ‘perl’ in it. I can only understand raw links, sorry.
Doc_Holliwood now i realize those are all aliases
AlexDaniel releasable6: changelog gist.githubusercontent.com/AlexDan...ec5/foo.md
releasable6 AlexDaniel, Successfully fetched the code from the provided URL
AlexDaniel, 7 out of 440 commits logged (⚠ 9 warnings)
Doc_Holliwood *facepalm*
releasable6 AlexDaniel, Details: gist.github.com/2da3391b739e4d6911...f2bc724d97
AlexDaniel Doc_Holliwood: yep, it's a common pattern in most *able6 bots. If it's possible to use other information instead of the command, the code does so 01:43
Doc_Holliwood: it helps, I've spent a lot of time making sure that bots DWIM when people use the wrong command
because people never use the right one :)
for example 01:44
relesable6: help
releasable6 AlexDaniel, status | status link # See wiki for more examples: github.com/perl6/whateverable/wiki/Releasable
coverable6 AlexDaniel, Like this: coverable6: f583f22 grep=SETTING:: say ‘hello’; say ‘world’ # See wiki for more examples: github.com/perl6/whateverable/wiki/Coverable
AlexDaniel ok that might be a bit over the top, but it did work :)
so all bots autocorrect their names
because once someone didn't spell right the name of bisectable6 three times in a row 01:45
and gave up after that :D
Doc_Holliwood rlsble: when
AlexDaniel yeah, the acceptable distance can't be too large because as you can see they start to clash with other things
Doc_Holliwood ralaesuble: when
AlexDaniel sebictable6: help 01:46
bisectable6 AlexDaniel, Like this: bisectable6: old=2015.12 new=HEAD exit 1 if (^∞).grep({ last })[5] // 0 == 4 # See wiki for more examples: github.com/perl6/whateverable/wiki/Bisectable
Doc_Holliwood jnthn wld dsgree
AlexDaniel it's still quite forgiving :)
.tell jnntn test test
tellable6 AlexDaniel, I haven't seen jnntn around, did you mean jnthn?
Doc_Holliwood lol. ++ 01:47
AlexDaniel .tell Docholliwood hello
tellable6 AlexDaniel, I'll pass your message to Doc_Holliwood
AlexDaniel it attempt to use normalization before falling back to did-you-mean :) 01:48
attempts*
Doc_Holliwood: so it's not that much of a facepalm, really, it's just how forgiving the bots are :)
AlexDaniel Doc_Holliwood: another interesting thing 01:52
tellable6: Doc_Holliwood
tellable6 AlexDaniel, I saw Doc_Holliwood 2019-10-21T01:47:14Z in #perl6: <Doc_Holliwood> lol. ++
AlexDaniel tellable6: Doc_Holliwood test test
tellable6 AlexDaniel, I'll pass your message to Doc_Holliwood
AlexDaniel no command required
but
tellable6: tell Doc_Holliwood test test
tellable6 AlexDaniel, I'll pass your message to Doc_Holliwood
AlexDaniel also works
and
.tell Doc_Holliwood test test
tellable6 AlexDaniel, I'll pass your message to Doc_Holliwood
AlexDaniel .seen Doc_Holliwood
tellable6 AlexDaniel, I saw Doc_Holliwood 2019-10-21T01:47:14Z in #perl6: <Doc_Holliwood> lol. ++
AlexDaniel right? But what if we use them in reverse
.tell Doc_Holliwood 01:53
tellable6 AlexDaniel, I saw Doc_Holliwood 2019-10-21T01:47:14Z in #perl6: <Doc_Holliwood> lol. ++
AlexDaniel .seen Doc_Holliwood test test
tellable6 AlexDaniel, I'll pass your message to Doc_Holliwood
AlexDaniel :)
it's not perfect though, I've seen people start their message with “please” more than once 01:54
and I see no reason not to add that, maybe when I have a bit more time :) 01:55
they already understand some stuff, you can say for example: thank you very much, tellable6! 01:56
tellable6 AlexDaniel, It's my pleasure!
Doc_Holliwood I take it the whole thing than reliable whenever/react semantics? Older than Cro? 01:59
tellable6 2019-10-21T01:47:16Z #perl6 <AlexDaniel> Docholliwood hello
Doc_Holliwood *is older than
AlexDaniel yes and no, rakudo wasn't stable at all at the time when the project was started, see this to enjoy my pain: github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/24 02:01
AlexDaniel there was no IRC::Client too, the first version was in perl5 02:02
there was just bisectable, and very shortly MasterDuke++ contributed committable6
which was pretty much just a copy of bisectable with some tweaks
how it turned into 18 bots (19 next week, I think) I can't remember :D 02:03
Doc_Holliwood: if you see anything that can be written better with react/whenever, please do 02:04
I mean, please do rewrite it, or at least tell me what to do :) 02:05
Doc_Holliwood They probably had bot sex when you weren't looking 02:06
And if you find that amusing because bot sex sounds a bit like butt sex then you're a pig and should be ashamed of yourself 02:08
^^
AlexDaniel they can do what they want, I don't discriminate! 02:09
Doc_Holliwood www.youtube.com/watch?v=oroEOMskgEI 02:14
good night
cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! LibXML (0.1.6) by 03WARRINGD 02:37
cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! Prometheus::Client (0.1.0) by 03HANENKAMP 03:39
cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! LibXSLT (0.0.3) by 03WARRINGD 07:34
pmurias if this channel is considered deprecated wouldn't removing bots from it be a good idea? 11:09
lizmat pmurias: agree, but I guess no one got around to it yet? 11:27
lizmat and the first Rakudo Weekly hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2019/10/21/2019-42-answered/ 13:59
El_Che new look 15:22
lizmat El_Che: do you like it? Or is it too sunflowery ? :-) 18:07
japhb lizmat: I like the sunflower look, but curious: Does it have significance, or is it just pleasant to look at? 19:47
lizmat I always found sunflowers to be the symbol of summer 19:48
I hope we're getting into the summer period of Perl 6 / Raku now
and it is pleasant to look at
japhb I like that image, the summer of Raku 20:00
El_Che lizmat: very clean look 20:20