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| lichtkind | PerlJam: hejho | 00:01 | |
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| meppl | good night | 02:10 | |
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| dlocaus | moritz_: you said you try and traslate some of the synopsises.. .what do you get stuck at? | 03:03 | |
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| moritz_ | @tell dlocaus re translating synopsis: mostly lack of time and motivation | 06:16 | |
| lambdabot | Consider it noted. | ||
| agentz1 | translating is tough :) | 06:20 | |
| moritz_ | aye | 06:28 | |
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| PessimistByNatur | just popped in to say hello, and good luck ^_^ | 06:36 | |
| [particle] | thanks! | ||
| agentz1 grins. | |||
| PessimistByNatur | I would attempt to help, but seeing as I don't know much perl at all, and that I'm still learning how to program in general, I'll leave it in your capable hands ^_^ | 06:37 | |
| agentz1 | heh | ||
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| moritz_ | PessimistByNatur: that attidue fits your nick name ;-) | 06:38 | |
| PessimistByNatur | I see no contradiction, as long as one can accept that one can't often control external circumstance, it's fairly simple to stay content even when you think everything will go wrong ^_^ | 06:39 | |
| moritz_ mumbles something inaudible about "low standards", but generally agrees | 06:41 | ||
| PessimistByNatur keeps reading happily about perl 6, since he didn't hear anything ^_^ | 06:42 | ||
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| moritz_ | well, it's moving, at it's own, slow pace | 06:44 | |
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| PessimistByNatur | no rush, it will be done when it is done ^_^ | 06:45 | |
| moritz_ | aye, that's our atitude as well ;) | ||
| [particle] | luckily, otherwise we'd be *way* behind | 06:47 | |
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| akreal is away: Отошёл. | 07:31 | ||
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| pugs_svn | r19050 | fglock++ | [kp6-perl5] fixed array autovivification on ".push" | 12:03 | |
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| pugs_svn | r19051 | fglock++ | [kp6-kp6] "Decl.emit_perl5" works | 14:34 | |
| moritz_ | what would æ match with the :basechar modifier in scope? an 'a', or 'ae'? or nothing of those? | 14:42 | |
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| pugs_svn | r19052 | fglock++ | [kp6] Grammar - escape sequences inside single-quotes | 15:13 | |
| pmurias | fglock: got my messages? | 15:14 | |
| fglock | @messages | 15:15 | |
| lambdabot | pmurias said 17h 22m 47s ago: while attempting to remove eval uncovered a bug | ||
| pmurias said 17h 21m 9s ago: look at line 1586 compiled/perl5-kp6-kp6/lib/KindaPerl6/Grammar/Regex.pm inside eval | |||
| fglock | looking | ||
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| fglock | pmurias: line 1586 is the end of file | 15:18 | |
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| pugs_svn | r19053 | fglock++ | [kp6-kp6] fix Pad eval | 15:22 | |
| moritz_ | pugs: say 'a' ~~ m:b/a/ | 15:25 | |
| exp_evalbot | OUTPUT[*** Cannot parse regex: a*** Error: ] | ||
| pmurias | fglock: sorry line 72 | 15:40 | |
| fglock | k | ||
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| pugs_svn | r19054 | fglock++ | [kp6-kp6] Pad.add_lexicals work | 15:44 | |
| rhr | moritz_: it looks like æ doesn't have a unicode decomposition, so it wouldn't match any of those (not what I was expecting) | ||
| moritz_ | rhr: thanks. I consider it a Unicode bug ;) | 15:46 | |
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| fglock | less than 20 days to Christmas | 15:51 | |
| moritz_ | omg | ||
| I don't have a single present yet | 15:52 | ||
| [particle] | you should have gone to nepal, presents are cheap there :) | ||
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| moritz_ | [particle]: and no family around, so need for so many presents anyway ;) | 15:55 | |
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| pugs_svn | r19055 | fglock++ | [kp6-kp6] pointy block parsing generates a Sub node | 15:58 | |
| pmurias | fglock: seen the bug | 16:00 | |
| ? | 16:01 | ||
| fglock | yes, fixing | ||
| thanks :) | |||
| pmurias | fglock: remove the eval while forcerecompiling | ||
| fglock | does it work without eval? | 16:02 | |
| I wonder how circular dependencies are resolved | |||
| pmurias | fglock: i can hand remove the bug and test | ||
| fglock | and self-references | ||
| pmurias | run_test.pl --backend=perl5rx works with kp6 | 16:03 | |
| except for a test which was broken before | |||
| transforming compiled code with vim is not nice,broke my image | 16:07 | ||
| :( | 16:08 | ||
| fglock: it should work the file has "no strict 'vars'" | |||
| fglock | but the interpolation will generate a '' | 16:09 | |
| doesn't it? | |||
| pmurias | why? | 16:10 | |
| fglock: test 1-10 in t-bootstrap work | 16:11 | ||
| * tests | |||
| fglock: the var in (??{$var}) dosn't get interpolated | |||
| fglock | ok - I'll try it out after the fix | 16:12 | |
| pmurias | ok | ||
| moritz_ | now I get a segfault in 02-grammar.p6 even with perl5.10.0 | 16:13 | |
| pmurias | obra: i don't with perl5.8.8 | 16:16 | |
| obra: sorry meant moritz_ | |||
| moritz_: i don't with perl5.8.8 | |||
| moritz_ | pmurias: on a different mashine with the same perl it works for me as well... | 16:17 | |
| pmurias: the odd thing is: otherwise it works perfectly fine, and the perl5.10 copy that I tried passed all tests | |||
| pmurias | moritz_: is it the segfaulty perl which gave a segfault before? | ||
| moritz_ | pmurias: I reported the segfault before, yes ;) | 16:18 | |
| with the same mashine | |||
| s/with/on/ | |||
| oh wait, now I can reproduce the segfault on a second debian box | 16:19 | ||
| afk & | |||
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| pugs_svn | r19056 | fglock++ | [kp6-perl5rx] fixed rule name mangling - pmurias++ | 16:25 | |
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| fglock | moritz_: does it segfault after test #11? (unfinished code after that) | 16:26 | |
| hmm - the perl5.10 error message occurs in some "normal" code | 16:40 | ||
| it might be a code-inside-regex bug | 16:41 | ||
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| moritz_ | fglock: no, earlier... | 16:45 | |
| fglock | :( | 16:46 | |
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| moritz_ | on a server inside a chroot after # ** now testing: <val_int> | 16:47 | |
| on the same server outside the chroot after ok 11 - term\n...\nadd pad | |||
| on my laptop with 5.8.8: same as inside chroot | 16:48 | ||
| on my laptop with 5.10.0: same as the server oustide the chroot | 16:49 | ||
| fglock | I see a fatal error after "ok 11" - Bizarre copy of ARRAY in sassign | ||
| no idea why | |||
| with 5.10.0-RC2 | 16:50 | ||
| hmm - there are several reports of this bug - maybe it's not my fault | 16:52 | ||
| "See previous threads on this" - looking | 16:53 | ||
| moritz_ | the "previous thread" had some discussion on Carp::Heavy iirc | 16:54 | |
| though I lost interest in it because I didn't understand it at all | 16:55 | ||
| fglock | I can't find anything useful yet | 16:59 | |
| pmurias | fglock: i get *** Syntax Error in sub: missing closing curly bracket here | 17:00 | |
| fglock | pmurias: that's ok, it's a kp6 error message | 17:01 | |
| but "Bizarre" is a Perl 5 error | |||
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| pmurias | fglock: should i forcerecompile without eval? | 17:02 | |
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| fglock | pmurias: I think it's too early to test this, because we don't have much working code to test it on | 17:05 | |
| otoh, if it fixes kp6-kp6 please do it! | |||
| coffee & | 17:09 | ||
| pmurias | i asked if you weren't forerecompiling anything so we don't get conflicts | 17:10 | |
| fglock | pmurias: I'm not, feel free | 17:12 | |
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| pmurias | if i don't have much time to spare, i can at least contribiute my CPU cycles ;) | 17:13 | |
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| moritz_ | I built 5.10.0 with debugging symbols and know I have a stack trace of the segfault | 17:18 | |
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| moritz_ | but I don't know perls internals good enough to do anything usefull with it | 17:18 | |
| pmurias | moritz_: valgrind can fire up the debuger in the place where the segfault happened | 17:20 | |
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| moritz_ | sial.org/pbot/29055 | 17:20 | |
| lambdabot | Title: Paste #29055 from "moritz_" at 89.12.225.191 | ||
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| moritz_ | Invalid read of size 4 at 0x806FB52: Perl_cv_clone (pad.c:1495) | 17:23 | |
| pmurias | moritz_: valgrind can fire the debugger when an invalid memory read happens | 17:26 | |
| moritz_: although i don't know perl5 internals at all so i can't help you | 17:27 | ||
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| pugs_svn | r19057 | fglock++ | [kp6] added new target KP6-BOOT-NOREGEX | 17:41 | |
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| pugs_svn | r19058 | pmurias++ | [kp6-perl5rx] does not emit superflous eval's | 17:43 | |
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| fglock_ | pmurias: the tests still pass; still get the "Bizarre copy" too | 17:53 | |
| moritz_ | I pasted the backtrace and valgrind's output to #p5p, Nicholas had a look at it | 17:56 | |
| no result so far, but at least they know about the segfault now | 17:57 | ||
| fglock_ | moritz_++ | 17:59 | |
| I'm compiling a no-regex version | 18:00 | ||
| in no-regex mode, Grammar.pm compiles to... 129841 lines | 18:06 | ||
| moritz_ loves such small an concise programs | |||
| pmurias | we are a large project now,hundreds of thousands lines of code ;) | 18:08 | |
| [particle] | urk | ||
| i bet that's *fast* | |||
| moritz_ | [particle]: sure, it's a fast way to occupy your CPU ;) | 18:09 | |
| fglock_ | perl5 loads incredibly fast | 18:10 | |
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| pugs_svn | r19059 | fglock++ | [kp6-kp6-noregex] added a simple Match.perl; 3 tests pass | 18:19 | |
| fglock_ | not bad - but it must be much slower than the regex backend | ||
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| pmurias | fglock_: what's the -I i should use? | 18:27 | |
| fglock_ | compiled/perl5-kp6-kp6-noregex/lib | 18:29 | |
| you need to create the directories before running make | 18:30 | ||
| pmurias | fglock_: can't you svk add them? ;) | ||
| fglock_ | k | ||
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| pugs_svn | r19060 | fglock++ | [kp6-kp6-noregex] added compiled/ directories (empty) | 18:36 | |
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| pmurias | fglock_: some files are missing | 18:39 | |
| and some are present | |||
| fglock_ | I didn't add all files | 18:40 | |
| $ du -h compiled/perl5-kp6-kp6-noregex/ # 42M | |||
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| pmurias | fglock_: that's not good | 18:41 | |
| fglock_: is the result fast enough | |||
| fglock_ | it doesn't do much yet, but it's probably slow | 18:42 | |
| alternately, we can compile Perl 6 regexes directly to Perl 5, like PCR does | 18:44 | ||
| it would take some time to implement this :( | 18:45 | ||
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| TimToady | <time passes> ...so, is it done yet? :) | 19:22 | |
| moritz_ | as a child when my parents said "soon", I used to answer "when is 'soon' over?" or "now 'soon' is over!" ;-) | 19:23 | |
| fglock_ | TimToady: :) | 19:27 | |
| I got distracted | |||
| home & | 19:28 | ||
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| pugs_svn | r19061 | dlo++ | [kp6] Updated documentation, did minor reformatting. New documentation needs review. | 19:45 | |
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| pugs_svn | r19062 | dlo++ | [kp6] cleaned up documentation a bit more. | 19:57 | |
| r19063 | dlo++ | [kp6] Minor formating correction. | 20:01 | ||
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| pugs_svn | r19064 | dlo++ | [kp6] I have added the big picture to this end of this document. If someone could review it, that would be great. dlocaus@ #perl6 irc.freenode.net. | 20:17 | |
| dlocaus | lunch and dog walk & | 20:18 | |
| lambdabot | dlocaus: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. | ||
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| Tene | pugs: my @a := (1,2,3); say @a.perl; | 23:49 | |
| exp_evalbot | OUTPUT[\1] | ||
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