Should we include exercises? | IRC logs: irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6book/today | source: github.com/perl6/book/
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moritz_ bemoans the lack of book commits in the last week, and wants to encourage people to write more 12:05
jnthn :-( 12:08
Sorry.
ENGBRANCHDISTRACTING 12:09
carlin I've been thinking I could try and write something for the book on IO::Socket -- but looking at the current examples it doesn't seem like that would fit in 12:15
and I can't really think of any good examples either :/
moritz_ carlin: we do plan to add some more practical chapters, for example involving DB access and web programming 12:17
carlin: so maybe it would fit in after all
carlin Hmm, alright. If I think of an example I'll write something. 12:29
fsvo something ;-)
snarkyboojum I'm happy to proof read, don't know enough Perl 6 to contribute anything :), so I'm looking forward to the next release 12:38
moritz_ snarkyboojum: no need to wait for releases to do proof-reading
masak I'll write something. 12:39
snarkyboojum I did, but haven't built the book since the first pdf
moritz_ snarkyboojum: current version is at moritz.faui2k3.org/tmp/book.pdf 12:40
snarkyboojum ahh.. lovely - cheers
moritz_ in particular "The Basics" is a new chapter which hasn't seen any proof-reading at all so far
so it's likely full of spelling and grammar errors
jnthn Did anyone manage to dream up a nice roles example yet at all?
jnthn is still trying to think of one 12:41
moritz_ snarkyboojum: also if you think something's not explained good enough, feel free to tell us
snarkyboojum moritz_: you've already included some of my typo fixes :)
will do
jnthn Preferably something that I can also demo parametric roles in too.
masak jnthn: one could do something classic, like logging.
jnthn Maybe.
masak but to be honest, I'd rather do something else...
jnthn Yeah.
jnthn wonders if the travel examples from one of his talks could work at all... 12:42
masak oh, those! yes, they might. 12:43
jnthn Would have to pad it out a bit. 12:44
moritz_ travel exaxmples?
jnthn finding slides
moritz_ solve the traveling salesman problem in polynomial time in Perl 6!
jnthn www.jnthn.net/papers/2008-yapc-eu-perl6oo.pdf # bonus tibet picture!
oh, this is the talk where I poked fun at the french too :-) 12:45
masak why would you poke fun at ze french? oh la la! 12:46
jnthn masak: slide 31 :-) 12:47
masak just got there. :)
jnthn For those wondering, it's a bad translation of "All your strikes are belong to us" :-) 12:48
masak it looks... odd. 12:49
but I guess that's what you get when you translate 'are belong to'... 12:50
jnthn To be fair, "are belong to us" looks odd in English too. ;-)
masak right.
let's blame the Japanese. 12:51
jnthn Good plan!
masak someone set up us the bomb!
how are you gentlemen!
jnthn mmm...who'da thought mould could taste so good 12:56
(blue cheese)++
masak maybe the French are onto something after all. 13:07
jnthn France is a cuisine win. :-) 13:09
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snarkyboojum what's the 'official' way to give feedback regarding the book? 13:31
moritz_ there's no 'official' way, just write your findings here 13:32
snarkyboojum k
heh this is a bit lame, but minor quibble with the first sentence of the The Basics .. last part 'and report it.' should probably read, 'and reporting on it.' or something :) 13:35
moritz_ fix commited 13:39
moritz_ waits for dalek to report it
masak heh. I just pulled and got the change, too. :)
'reporting on' sounds like 'tell on' to me. 13:40
I'd write 'summarizing it' or something.
moritz_ snarkyboojum: if you have a github account and prefer to make small changes yourself, we can give you commit access 13:41
snarkyboojum " which means it takes care the $file stores that file handle" that doesn't seem right either
not sure if these minor things are worth mentioning
moritz_ if you prefer to report things here, that's fine too
snarkyboojum yep .. I do by that name
moritz_ snarkyboojum: they are
hugme: add snarkyboojum to book
hugme hugs snarkyboojum. Welcome to book!
moritz_ masak: feel free to change that
snarkyboojum cool! :)
ok 13:42
masak changes that
dalek ok: bf74ba8 | moritz++ | src/basics.pod:
grammar improvement by snarkyboojum++
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ok: a8c0d89 | masak++ | src/basics.pod:
[basics] minor changes in the first paragraph
ok: 5c8417a | moritz++ | src/basics.pod:
[basics] hopefully clarify a sentence for snarkyboojum++
masak moritz_: if you start a sentence with 'However', there should usually be a comma immediately after it. same as with 'Likewise", 'Consequently", 'Thus' and other similar words which put the current sentence in relation to previous ones. 13:49
moritz_: the exception I can think of is something like 'However much I tried...', where 'However' does not have that function. 13:50
jnthn However hard I think, I can't come up with another example of...oh wait... :-) 13:56
dalek ok: d6be394 | snarkyboojum++ | src/basics.pod:
Minor grammatical changes
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snarkyboojum moritz_: I guess the standard approach is to run changes past you guys before making them?
moritz_ snarkyboojum: no, the standard approach is to commit them right away 14:06
snarkyboojum good-o
moritz_ snarkyboojum: if they are larger or controversial it's nice to discuss them here first, but small things don't need that
snarkyboojum okydoke 14:07
masak trust the anarchy. 14:27
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