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DrForr So we be il'in now. 07:37
A tweet just popped up with "Doctor, the CMS for Markdown..." 09:06
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moritz fwiw for deploybook.com/ I've created markdown blog posts, ran them through Markdown.pl to generate HTML, put the HTML into my blog; then I thought about it for a while, and created part of the manuscript from the original .md file. Not perfect, but less work than starting a new blog 10:56
[ptc] moritz: are you planning on putting this book onto leanpub in a similar manner to your deployments book? 10:58
moritz [ptc]: since I'm not the only author, that'lll need to be discussed 11:01
but probably yes
(though leanpub has since then started a 99USD charge for a new book, which makes me think twice about it)
the incoming sales were a pretty big motivator for me to keep going 11:03
[ptc] I'll bet
moritz and I'm proud to have sold 12 copies before even declaring the manuscript complete 11:04
[ptc] that *is* really cool. Very stoked for you!
I'd been wondering if the Perl6 book should be in p6pod, however then I just wonder if thought is simply bikeshedding 11:05
one motivator could be to find the rough edges on the p6pod spec 11:06
moritz the toolchain issues were fairly distracting the last time I tried that
[ptc] and "Programming Perl" was written in pod (well, pseudo pod, but mostly pod)
moritz (it was Pod::PseudoPod, not Pod6)
[ptc] yeah, that was my thought
moritz I just want to use a working toolchain
leanpub, possibly softcover
[ptc] markdown is nice and simple, but getting the tooling up and going for p6pod would be a pita
yup, one reason I asked about leanpub 11:07
p3rln00b glances over the backlog. 12:03
My personal taste for Pod is it's really annoying to type with its use of < > as markers. A book in Pod would be kinda annoying. 12:04
perl6.party uses Markdown for posts FWIW. No conversion to HTML required: github.com/zoffixznet/perl6.party/...aster/post 12:05
Well, MultiMarkdown with a few of my personal tweaks to insert module links and IRC conversations.
moritz p3rln00b: nice
so, plan: 12:51
1) I want to grab a domain name for the book
2) I want to create a mailchimp mailing list
3) we can start blogging, and put the signup form for the mailing list on the blog posts 12:52
p3rln00b: should we use your blog for that?
[ptc] do you want something like p6book.perl6.org?
moritz I thought of an independent domain 12:53
[ptc] ah, ok
moritz because for me, this is like, our personal project, not under the umbrella of the perl6 org / domain
p3rln00b Like the software of my blog to host the book blog? Sure.
Yeah +1 for independent domain
[ptc] agreed 12:54
p3rln00b What's the sign up form for? For people to buy a copy of the book? 12:59
moritz p3rln00b: for signing up to the mailing list. We can then use the mailing list to inform them when it's out, do some progress updates etc. 13:00
p3rln00b Ah. ok
moritz p3rln00b: maybe give them a discount for the book on leanpub, stuff like that
mailing lists sound pretty old-fashioned, but they *are* good for selling stuff 13:01
p3rln00b And what the blogs will be about? 13:27
moritz well, in my previous book project, I first blogged about the topics I wanted to write about 13:28
and then waited a bit, sometimes got feedback, and turned the blog post into a part of the manuscript 13:29
as I wrote in my initial gist, That helped me get around my imposter syndrome, because my standards for blog posts aren't as high as for book material. Writing the manuscript directly feels sooo much harder for me.
and it also helps to get people interested in the project 13:30
p3rln00b :)
moritz we don't have to do everything in that mode, but it sure helped me 13:31
anyway, afk for a while
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