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🦋 Welcome to the IRC channel of the core developers of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org #rakulang). This channel is logged for the purpose of history keeping about its development | evalbot usage: 'm: say 3;' or /msg camelia m: ... | Logs available at irclogs.raku.org/raku-dev/live.html | For MoarVM see #moarvm Set by lizmat on 8 June 2022. |
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| lizmat | ab5tract: nope, it's after BEGIN time | 00:12 | |
| m: BEGIN say "begin"; CHECK say "check" | |||
| camelia | begin check |
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| lizmat | m: CHECK say "check"; BEGIN say "begin" | ||
| camelia | begin check |
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| ab5tract | that was an easy proof, wish I had thought of that | 00:23 | |
| lizmat | sleep& | 00:24 | |
| ab5tract | do we have anything earlier than begin-time available in RakuAST? I'm running into scenarios where the lookup of names into package stashes is happening prior to the installation into package stashes | ||
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| nine: I've pushed my attempt at an IMPL-RESOLVE-NAME-IN-PACKAGES that looks into name parts. Though after looking at the implementations of other IMPL-RESOLVE methods, I realized that I think I'm just duplicating that | 00:26 | ||
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| nine | ab5tract there is is-begin-performed-before-children and the corresponding PERFORM-BEGIN-BEFORE-CHILDREN. That's about the earliest one can do something. Worst case is the grammar having to do something. Alternative is to figure out a way to defer those lookups | 08:09 | |
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| Geth | rakudo/main: dbc994398f | (Christian Bartolomäus)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 3 files Streamline comments about CORE-SETTING-REV |
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| ab5tract | hmmm, it's not working with PERFORM-BEGIN-BEFORE-CHILDREN.. | 09:32 | |
| later on today I will try with doing it directly in Actions (I assume that's what you meant about doing it directly in the grammar). The defer thingy sounds interesting but complex | 09:33 | ||
| nine | What exactly is the problem you're facing? | 09:45 | |
| ab5tract | the installation (and creation of packages) is happening after the grammar for assignment calls resolve-name | 09:48 | |
| so we get a malformed my error on things like 'subset P::F where 5; my P::F $f = 5' | 09:49 | ||
| nine | Oh....yes, you need to call IMPL-CHECK manually from the action, just like in package_def | 09:51 | |
| ab5tract | ok, will take a look at that after my appointment. thanks! | 09:52 | |
| "No such method 'IMPL-QAST-DECL' for invocant of type 'RakuAST::Declaration::External::Constant'" :) | 09:59 | ||
| alright, appointment time | |||
| the above is probably related to my attempt to get the resolver to use name parts to check packages. | 10:01 | ||
| nope, it still happens when I've got my new code commented out. hmmm | 10:03 | ||
| okay, really leaving now | |||
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| lizmat | notable6: weekly | 11:24 | |
| notable6 | lizmat, 1 note: 2023-01-31T22:36:06Z <NemokoschKiwi>: 5ab5traction5.bearblog.dev/i-raku-...structors/ | ||
| lizmat | notable6: weekly reset | 11:30 | |
| notable6 | lizmat, Moved existing notes to “weekly_2023-02-06T11:30:48Z” | ||
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| lizmat | and yet another Rakudo Weekly News hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2023/02/06/2023-...en-davies/ | 11:53 | |
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| nine | lizmat++ | 12:08 | |
| Geth | nqp/main: 848bf1b2ff | (Christian Bartolomäus)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 3 files [JVM] Add op jvmgetunicodeversion (#797) The idea is to use this op in Rakudo's src/core.e/core_prologue.pm6 to set $?UNICODE-VERSION. |
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| rakudo/main: c8f12210a3 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | tools/templates/NQP_REVISION Bump NQP to get nqp::jvmgetunicodeversion support |
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| Geth | rakudo/main: ee277f6568 | (Christian Bartolomäus)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | src/core.e/core_prologue.pm6 [JVM] Add support for $?UNICODE-VERSION (#5188) The op "uniprop" isn't available on the JVM backend yet. But since we rely on Java's Unicode support anyway, we could derive the supported Unicode version from the Java version. This is hidden in a NQP op, which is specific for the JVM backend. |
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| ¦ rakudo: lizmat self-assigned set op doesn't preserve class inheritance github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/5190 | 13:03 | ||
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| patrickb | I just noticed that the GSoC org applications deadline is tomorrow evening. Is there willingness among the 2021 Mentors to Mentor in 2023 AS well? If yes, we might manage to push the application through. I'm willing to throw time at this. But it only makes sense to do so if we have mentor(s). here is the ideas list of 2021: github.com/perl-foundation-outreac.../main/raku | 15:33 | |
| ^ ping nine, JJ, tony-o, finanalyst, lizmat, donaldh, MasterDuke | 15:37 | ||
| Nemokosch | patrickb++ | ||
| patrickb | JJ, [Coke]: Do you have time available to wrangle the application form itself or at least provide me with credentials? | 15:39 | |
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| lizmat | patrickb count me in | 17:18 | |
| tonyo | patrickb: i'm willing | 17:22 | |
| tellable6 | 2023-02-06T00:45:29Z #raku <guifa> tonyo: melezhik is interested in how to disable tar in fez config | ||
| tonyo | guifa: i left a .tell for melezhik in #raku | ||
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| ab5tract | okay, I'm at a total loss for how to proceed with the remaining subset issues. | 17:58 | |
| I'll be back but first I've got to give the old brain a rest | 17:59 | ||
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| Geth | rakudo/main: 586466e921 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 3 files Hopefully fix all inheritance issues with set operators In response to github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/5190 |
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| roast: a647a0ecae | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | S02-types/bag.t Add test for #5190 |
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| Geth | nqp/main: 51d20a5532 | (Christian Bartolomäus)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | docs/ops.markdown Fix link to documentation of jvmgetunicodeversion The reference to the anchor was missing a trailing ```-jvm```. |
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| ab5tract | my changes have caused a number of NativeCall tests to start failing. I'm not sure if it's because I uncovered a subtle bug when I fixed adding nominalizable constraints for parameters | 18:56 | |
| 'No such method 'ACCEPTS' for invocant of type '::?CLASS:D'' | |||
| I have a feeling that the regression in passing tests in my branch is due to these "post constraints" being ignored before | 19:00 | ||
| Geth | rakudo/lizmat-Unicode-version: ca4daf98d2 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 6 files Replace $?UNICODE-VERSION by Unicode.version - creates a Unicode class to keep info about Unicode versions - add a Unicode.version class method with former $?UNICODE-VERSION value - add a Unicode.NFG class method indicating support for NFG - adapt tests accordingly |
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| rakudo: lizmat++ created pull request #5191: Replace $?UNICODE-VERSION by Unicode.version |
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| nqp: usev6++ created pull request #798: Add --gen-moar/--with-moar to build command |
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| Nemokosch | okay... so if I understand it correctly, QAST is not meant to contain everything needed to determine the behavior | 21:53 | |
| the data structures come from the metamodel, right? | |||
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| Geth | nqp: usev6++ created pull request #799: Mark t/nqp/063-slurp.t as self-referential |
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| patrickb | Quick call for mentors. It seems that we could actually manage to get our GSoC application through. Having more potential mentors is a good thing (also helps with the application). Whoever fells up to mentoring a project (you don't necessarily need to have a specific project in mind) please speak up in the next 15 hours or so. | 22:11 | |
| Nemokosch | what does mentoring involve, if I may? | 22:14 | |
| patrickb | If you do have a project idea you are willing to mentor, then type together a description using this github.com/perl-foundation-outreac...emplate.md template (the repo is not yet up, but please just mail me at [email@hidden.address] | 22:17 | |
| If you do have a project idea you are willing to mentor, then type together a description using this github.com/perl-foundation-outreac...emplate.md template (the repo is not yet up, but please just mail me at patrick.boeker@posteo.de) | |||
| github.com/perl-foundation-outreac...s-guide.md | |||
| See here | |||
| Nemokosch | thankies | 22:24 | |
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