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Geth | rakudo/lizmat-store-Callable: 4695cbe50e | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 2 files Provide better error message for my %h = Callable If it is the *only* value stored in a Map, and it is a Callable, provide an error message that points to the use of ; vs , in the contents of the Callable ({ :a; :b } versus { :a, :b }). Addresses github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/5170 This change may actually be a performance improvement, as it reduces the binary size of the STORE methods involved, making it more likely they can be inlined. |
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rakudo: lizmat++ created pull request #5213: Provide better error message for my %h = Callable |
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roast: c7049326de | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | S03-operators/context.t Make test less specific Otherwise github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/5213 will cause a failed test. |
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El_Che | hello, if someone is inclined, I have some nice failing tests and build stuff: github.com/nxadm/rakudo-pkg/action...7400292959 | 15:57 | |
t/09-moar/01-profilers.t failed on many distros | |||
and some had this: "my sub" not yet implemented at /__w/rakudo-pkg/rakudo-pkg/rakudo/3rdparty/nqp-configure/lib/NQP/Config.pm line 1522. | 15:58 | ||
probably related to newer perl versions? | |||
the my subs error I saw on ubunut 16.04 and redhat/centos 7, the oldest from the bunch | 16:00 | ||
vrurg | El_Che: there is no 'my sub' at that line! | ||
El_Che | debian 9 as well | 16:01 | |
vrurg | Interesting, there is one on the HEAD of the module. How do you do the build? Do you checkout the submodule? | ||
El_Che | github.com/nxadm/rakudo-pkg/blob/m...ild.sh#L29 | 16:02 | |
clone: github.com/nxadm/rakudo-pkg/blob/m...oad.sh#L11 | |||
for eacht the 2023.03 version is checked out | 16:04 | ||
vrurg: debian 9: pipelines.actions.githubuserconten...LpUysfI%3D | 16:06 | ||
that's the build | 16:07 | ||
vrurg | El_Che: somehow you get `nqp-configure` submodule HEAD instead what is the current bound commit. The HEAD does have `my sub`, which is bad due to it only available since 5.18 and, apparently, many distros consider it too modern and unreliable. | 16:08 | |
El_Che | looking at the log to figure out that happens | ||
vrurg | Hm, now I am confused. My macOS build do have that version of submodule. Linux build is using an older one. What the... | 16:10 | |
Anyway, the `my sub` has to be eliminated. No idea how do these distros manage to live with archeologically dated versions of Perl, but... | 16:11 | ||
El_Che | sadly the log does not have the checkout info | 16:12 | |
but in short: git clone --recurse-submodules github.com/raku/nqp.git && cd nqp && git checkout $NQP_VERSION | |||
so nothing weird there | |||
vrurg: ah, here is the clone log: pipelines.actions.githubuserconten...LZBLQ7E%3D | 16:15 | ||
ctrl+f for nqp | |||
does what expected there | |||
vrurg | It gets what's expected. Looks like Perl's version is not what is expected. | ||
El_Che | well, the rakudo-pkg scripts didn't change between 2022.12 and today, and probably neither the distros | 16:16 | |
vrurg | I used a lexical sub totally automatically, because I can, because this is normal. I'm pissed off with people being so conservative! | ||
El_Che | certainly old ones like rhel 7 and ubuntu 16.04 | ||
vrurg: there I a reason I wrote that in bourne shell instead of raku (!), perl or bash :) | 16:17 | ||
vrurg | El_Che: there is a quick workaround, if you wish and can apply a patch. I guess, you can. Simply remove `my` for both entries. This will result in a warning, but it is harmless. | 16:21 | |
Proper fix would take a little time and will require a patch release which I'm not particularly happy about. :( | 16:22 | ||
El_Che | 2 places? | 16:24 | |
"my sub" not yet implemented at /__w/rakudo-pkg/rakudo-pkg/rakudo/3rdparty/nqp-configure/lib/NQP/Config.pm line 1522. | |||
that's 1 | |||
I see them | 16:25 | ||
my sub on_stdout and on_stderr | |||
I'll patch them quick and dirty to release the packages | |||
vrurg | Oh, even better. I forgot it works this way! | ||
El_Che | but others will hit it as well | 16:26 | |
vrurg | `my $on_stdout = sub {... ` – and the same for on_stderr. Then just replace \&on_ below with $on_ | ||
El_Che | on the second issue, I often have flippers and have to run several build to make them all pass | ||
but the profilers.t is the first one in a long time that failed on so many at the same time | 16:27 | ||
is it time based? | |||
vrurg | I don't know, never looked into what it does. | 16:28 | |
El_Che | will removing the my won't be enough? | ||
does sub in sub work? | |||
probably not | |||
it does not matter, what you propose is simple enough | 16:29 | ||
vrurg | Removing `my` works, but leaves you with a worthless warning. The `my $on_ = sub {` is a flawless solution. | ||
I will commit it later today, but have to go now. | |||
El_Che | i will do several runs to see if the profilers test if a flapper before patching. Thx for the help | 16:32 | |
aid | |||
(reran everything again: so only ubuntu 16.04, ubi 7 (rhel/centos/...) and debian 9 hit the bug | 16:47 | ||
Geth | rakudo/lizmat-store-Callable: 21ec434f86 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/core.c/Map.pm6 Elaborated in error message: Cannot use a Callable as the only argument to store in a Hash. If the intent was to store the contents of a Hash, one should probably use the %( ) hash constructor instead of { }. Causes of { } misinterpretation: - using ';' instead of ',' to separate values, as these imply statements - using '$_' or any placeholder variable, as they imply a block scope |
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nine | Is there even a point to building on such old distro version_ | 18:37 | |
lizmat | I'd say: yes | 18:38 | |
if MoarVM otherwise builds, yes | |||
El_Che | (for the record, I haven't seen such a flapper failing so much in ages [profilers.t]) | 18:44 | |
[Coke] | ubuntu 16.04 supported through 2026, but they have $$. :) | ||
El_Che | nine: my idea is to build on what's supported. | 18:45 | |
(in the hope people use raku when they can't or don't want to upgrade the os) | |||
there is huge rhel/centos7 install base out there, certainly with Redhat killing centos 8 | 18:46 | ||
they still have until next year to figure out where to go next | |||
("they" is also me, I still have a few services on centos 7) | 18:47 | ||
jdv | (the gig im bouncing from at the end of the month is still on centos 6:|) | 18:48 | |
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lizmat | meh: RakuAST::Type::Definedness takes 2 positionals, breaking the contract of 1 positional or nameds: method new(RakuAST::Type $base-type, Bool $definite) { | 20:37 | |
same for RakuAST::Type::Coercion | 20:39 | ||
and RakuAST::Type::Parameterized | 20:41 | ||
argh, and RakuAST::Var::Package takes a positional *and* a named | 20:46 | ||
Geth | nqp-configure/main: 1b4ae93d39 | (Vadim Belman)++ | lib/NQP/Config.pm Fix compatibility with older Perl versions `my sub` is only available since 5.18. But we still can compile on distros which where earlier versions of Perl are the default. |
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rakudo: vrurg++ created pull request #5214: Bump nqp-configure submodule version |
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nqp/main: 7d6de1e54a | (Vadim Belman)++ | 3rdparty/nqp-configure Bump nqp-configure submodule version Fix compatibility with older Perl versions |
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