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🦋 Welcome to the IRC channel of the core developers of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org #rakulang). This channel is logged for the purpose of history keeping about its development | evalbot usage: 'm: say 3;' or /msg camelia m: ... | Logs available at irclogs.raku.org/raku-dev/live.html | For MoarVM see #moarvm Set by lizmat on 8 June 2022. |
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| MasterDuke | lizmat: i think there's a new infini-loop. after pulling the latest nqp commits, the rakudo build hangs in `+++ Generating gen/moar/BOOTSTRAP/v6c.nqp` and `perf top` shows moarvm spending *lots* of time in `get_attribute` | 01:54 | |
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| nine | For me it hangs in nqp-m --module-path=blib --ll-exception --target=mbc --output=blib/Perl6/Metamodel.moarvm gen/moar/Metamodel.nqp | 07:43 | |
| lizmat | grrr | 08:20 | |
| confirmed | 08:21 | ||
| :-( | |||
| Geth | nqp/main: 57b956822e | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/how/RoleToRoleApplier.nqp Fix infinilooping in Rakudo Clearly we need more tests in NQP :-( |
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| nine | lizmat: don't you run a spectest after changes in NQP? | 08:49 | |
| lizmat: btw. why not return 1 instead of $skip := 1 in can_skip_attribute_by_name? If we find the attribute already in that list, we know it cannot be a duplicate anymore and further checks are unnecessary. | 08:51 | ||
| lizmat | nine: I thought I had run a spectest, but evidently I didn't :-( | ||
| nine | I know how that is :) | 08:52 | |
| Or even worse, you do run a spectest but only did make and not make install in NQP, so you only think you tested your change | |||
| lizmat | re returning 1: I just followed the original code, and was't sure about the semantics, as it *also* checks for name collisions | 08:53 | |
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| lizmat | nine: what I find strange in all this, is that actually cannot find a use of the NQP RoleToRoleApplier in rakudo | 08:58 | |
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| lizmat | evidently I don't understand the bootstrap well enough yet :-( | 08:58 | |
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| gfldex | lizmat: Do you use git-hooks before `git push`? | 09:03 | |
| lizmat | no | 09:05 | |
| gfldex | I found those helpful to avoid embarrassment. :) | 09:06 | |
| lizmat | well, there's that, but I already run spectests at least 20 times / day, that's more than 1 hour I can spend on social media already :-) | 09:09 | |
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| Geth | nqp/main: 5d896651d9 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/how/NQPClassHOW.nqp Streamline NQPClassHOW some more - add some more helper subs to simplify updates - add "add_tweak" method to support role TWEAKS in the future |
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| nqp/main: aadfaf9138 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/how/NQPConcreteRoleHOW.nqp Streamline NQPConcreteRoleHOW - add some helper subs - add protected blocks where necessary (functional at a later stage) - add "add_tweak" method to allow adding multiple role tweaks |
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| librasteve_ | o/ | 17:53 | |
| I just made a minor PR on rakudo.org (this is a new version that addresses the comments of others - as you can see in the comments) — github.com/rakudo/rakudo.org/pull/100 | 17:55 | ||
| would it help to ping someone to review and merge? if so - who? | |||
| (I am happy to be added to the rakudo.org admin if that’s a better option) | 17:57 | ||
| lizmat | librasteve: I'm missing a reference to El_Che's packages, is that intentional ? | ||
| librasteve_ | you mean rakudo-pkg (is El_Che nxadm?) | 17:58 | |
| lizmat | yes | ||
| librasteve_ | this PR does not change the current ref to rakudo-pkg … I tested that this morning on a clean ubuntu build and it came up with 2022.10 … so I have moved this aspect out to a new Issue github.com/rakudo/rakudo.org/issues/99 | 17:59 | |
| and asked them to get it working first | 18:00 | ||
| lizmat | ack... invite for commit bit on its way! | ||
| librasteve_ | ta | ||
| jdv | is installing a modern raku hard? | ||
| librasteve_ | it’s easy if you know how | 18:01 | |
| jdv | i must of missed something in my backlogging | ||
| *have | |||
| librasteve_ | the hard part i navigating all the options | ||
| jdv | there are quite a few different ways | 18:02 | |
| this all came about because of user complaints? | 18:05 | ||
| librasteve_ | yes - www.reddit.com/r/rakulang/comments...libraries/ | 18:08 | |
| jdv | ah | 18:09 | |
| did we lose our deb porter? | |||
| librasteve_ | standard apt-get install rakudo is waaay out of date, so I guess yes | 18:10 | |
| jdv | i mean deb is normally out more than others | 18:11 | |
| but experimental is even super out | |||
| librasteve_ | since the rakudo_pkg folks are keen, I think the best short term approach would be that (ie attach that cloudsmith repo to your apt-get) … so I am hoping that they will get that up and running (currently it loads 2022.10 for me) | 18:12 | |
| jdv | what is that now? i think the repo is newer... | ||
| librasteve_ | 2024.01 | 18:13 | |
| lizmat | librasteve_: could it be that your Linux is EOL ? | ||
| jdv | iirc Blin uses that repo and it was up to date last i saw | ||
| librasteve_ | ideally we would get the deb guys on board … but we can also remove some of the footguns on our own sites | ||
| let me double check my linux | 18:14 | ||
| lizmat | librasteve_: if your Linux is EOL, then El_Che doesn't provide newer Rakudo versions anymore | ||
| librasteve_ | Welcome to Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS | 18:16 | |
| jdv | Blin uses deb stable at the moment. i only know about debian. | 18:17 | |
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| librasteve_ | ah you have to guess its ‘apt-get install rakudo-pkg’ … let me clarify with bazzaar over on the issue | 18:25 | |
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| Geth | rakudo/lizmat-native-int-coercion: b3e846542a | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 2 files Provide native int coercers to Int/Cool Specifically: - .int, .int64, .int32, .int16, .int8 - .uint, .uint64, .uint32, .uint16, .uint8, .byte Note that this is just to provide the API. The implementation is ... (25 more lines) |
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| rakudo: lizmat++ created pull request #5526: Provide native int coercers to `Int`/`Cool` |
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| nqp/main: 1a399b24cb | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/how/RoleToClassApplier.nqp Streamline RoleToClassApplier - add some helper subs - rename some variables for clarity - replace for loops by while loops - remove some dead code (was marked todo since 2011 :-) |
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| lizmat | meh, it might be that NQP has borked Rakudo build once again :-( even though the spectest was clean :-( | 19:38 | |
| [Coke] | someone has requested "copilot business" for the raku org on github | 19:39 | |
| lizmat | yeah, I saw that? cannot find out who did that though | 19:41 | |
| How can I run a single test file when built with --with-nqp ? | 19:42 | ||
| ./raku t/spec/S06-operator-overloading/imported-subs.t just says that it can't find Test :-( | 19:43 | ||
| vrurg | To see who's requesting it Copilot needs to be activated first. | ||
| lizmat | ./raku -Ilib t/spec/S06-operator-overloading/imported-subs.t fails with Missing or wrong version of dependency 'gen/moar/stage2/NQPHLL.nqp' | 19:44 | |
| vrurg | lizmat: try removing ~/.raku/precomp | ||
| lizmat | no change :-( | 19:45 | |
| vrurg | There is something off about serialization currently. It feels like compiler's signature may not be changing something or something that causes re-use of older precomps. | ||
| lizmat | there's *definitely* something off there :-( | 19:46 | |
| vrurg | Looks like only removal of the entire installation dir is on the table now. | 19:47 | |
| lizmat | yeah... :-( | 19:49 | |
| even building with --gen-nqp=2024.01-32-g1a399b24c doesn't allow me to run the test file :-( | 19:53 | ||
| Ahhh I think I know why it first succeeded: if the libs that are used in that test file have already been precompiled, the tests pass | 19:57 | ||
| so it seems I borked precomping the libraries :-( | 19:58 | ||
| lizmat is going to contemplate further research | |||
| afk& | |||
| librasteve_ | hi folks, on Rakudo Star, I have started a discussion issue | 22:03 | |
| the gist is *Please do comment if you would like to restore Star to an effective option - I would love to hear the plan. Meantime, I propose we remove this option from the main rakudo.org menu.* | 22:04 | ||
| github.com/rakudo/rakudo.org/issues/102 | |||
| jdv | if star was just rakudo+zef id be into it | 22:05 | |
| last i looked it was a bunch | |||
| perhaps if it was a minimal "batteries included" but idk if thats possible... | 22:06 | ||
| gfldex | I'm trying to find the origin on "Cannot unbox 65 bit wide bigint into native integer" to add a little awesome. Neither ack not a stacktrace are helpful. Any pointers? | 22:07 | |
| librasteve_ | jdv: the current journey for a newb is (i) raku.org, (ii) rakudo.org, (iii) rakudo star maybe … I think by pruning Star we can just give everyone rakudo + zef and cut a jump / decision out | 22:09 | |
| jdv | perhaps | 22:10 | |
| librasteve_ | why only perhaps? | ||
| what are your concerns? | 22:11 | ||
| jdv | good luck getting agreement as to what star includes | ||
| otherwise, sounds great! | |||
| librasteve_ | not needed, this proposal is just to prune the Star variants period | 22:12 | |
| or if someone wants to keep it they need to step up and bring Star back up to date | 22:13 | ||
| 2020.04 for macOS Intel only doesn’t help us | 22:14 | ||
| jdv | cool | ||
| librasteve_ | guess I should leave it a day or two to see if anyone wants to raise concerns | 22:16 | |
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| [Coke] | It may take a bit for folks to digest it. Good luck. (seriously, I'd like to see it go at this point) | 22:34 | |
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| MasterDuke | gfldex: github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/blob/main...P6bigint.c for the 'Cannot unpack ...' error | 22:50 | |
| gfldex | Scary scary C-land. :-> | ||
| MasterDuke | [Coke]: btw, and speaking of error messages, i keep meaning to try and improve the error message in that particular case of declaring a typed array and passing an array of the wrong type (and also of declaring an array of type Array) | 22:54 | |
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