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| SmokeMachine | vrurg_: no, I’m surprised with the id of a block changing because of a assuming | 00:49 | |
| vrurg_ | SmokeMachine: then I have bad news for you. assuming is unreliable in many ways. It re-assembles the code by EVALing newly generated wrapper. | 00:50 | |
| Hence the new id. | |||
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| vrurg | You get a new routine in place of the original one. | 00:50 | |
| SmokeMachine | But shouldn’t it only “mess” with the returned routine? And let the original one alone? | 00:52 | |
| Why would assuming change anything on the original routine? | 00:53 | ||
| m: my &bla := -> $a, $b, $c {}; say bag ^50 .map: { my $id = &bla.id; &bla.clone.assuming: 1; $id} # let me try cloning it… | 00:54 | ||
| camelia | Bag(6373731752024(2) 6373797087424(47) 6373874660704) | ||
| vrurg | SmokeMachine: I can't at the moment tell you what exactly happens inside assuming. And neither have time to look into it. Besides, it will be changed with something more sensible when RakuAST comes. | 00:58 | |
| SmokeMachine | I’m not testing the id of the returned Code, but the original’s one | ||
| vrurg | Until then I wouldn't rely on it much. It's a huge performance killer too. | ||
| The ID is, actually, nothing but address of the actual bytecode. Guess, same warning as to .WHERE applies: you can't rely on it. | 00:59 | ||
| SmokeMachine | vrurg: yes… I saw that taking very long to run for a very small number of times on my tests… | ||
| I get the same behaviour with .WHERE… | 01:00 | ||
| vrurg | Objects are moving in memory. Perhaps .WHICH is what you better use? | 01:01 | |
| It is using objectid which doesn't depend on the actual allocation. | |||
| Anyway, have to do my job now. | 01:02 | ||
| SmokeMachine | I think that’s very odd… it has an id, then I call assuming once, it changes the id… then I call it again, it maintains the id, if I call it again, it changes again and maintains that no meter how many times I call it again… | ||
| Thanks! | |||
| I think I’ll wait for RakuAST for that too… | 01:03 | ||
| Good night | |||
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| nine | Why wait? Speed it up by contributing! | 07:40 | |
| SmokeMachine | nine: I'm more worried by the id changing than by the speed... | 08:10 | |
| nine | I meant speed up RakuAST's arrival | 08:13 | |
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| SmokeMachine | nine: I'd love to have enough knowledge and time for helping on that... | 08:14 | |
| (and I really need to get used to RakuAST... Red will really need that) | 08:16 | ||
| nine | It actually doesn't require that much knowledge. Sure, there are hard bits like BEGIN time execution, but I have already pretty much taken care of that. There's also lots of low hanging fruit still left. | 08:17 | |
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| Geth | JSON-Unmarshal: jonathanstowe++ created pull request #1: Add an opt-in option to unmarshal |
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