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🦋 Welcome to the MAIN() IRC channel of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org). Log available at irclogs.raku.org/raku/live.html . If you're a beginner, you can also check out the #raku-beginner channel! Set by lizmat on 6 September 2022. |
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| SmokeMachine | m: say "boo".comb.permutations.unique | 06:53 | |
| camelia | ((b o o) (b o o) (o b o) (o o b) (o b o) (o o b)) | ||
| SmokeMachine | should unique work for a list of lists? 👆 | ||
| m: say <b o o>.WHICH; say <b o o>.WHICH | 06:58 | ||
| camelia | List|4052417101152 List|4052417102688 |
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| SmokeMachine | Isn't List a value type? | 06:59 | |
| quib | m: say "boo".comb.permutations.unique(with => &[eqv]) | ||
| camelia | ((b o o) (o b o) (o o b)) | ||
| SmokeMachine | m: say "boo".comb.permutations.unique(:with(&join)) | 07:00 | |
| camelia | ((b o o)) | ||
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| SmokeMachine | m: role ValueList { method WHICH { ValueObjAt.new(self.map(*.WHICH).join: "|") } }; say "boo".comb.permutations.map({$_ but ValueList}).unique | 07:14 | |
| camelia | ((b o o) (o b o) (o o b)) | ||
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| SmokeMachine | Should List be value objects? | 08:21 | |
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| Voldenet | I'm suspecting that value semantics for things will need to get implemented at some points | 08:49 | |
| because NativeCall doesn't handle structs now, only pointers to structs | |||
| which probably would add value semantics to regular subroutines | 08:50 | ||
| which would probably lead to implementing value semantics for lists | |||
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| Voldenet | it's a lot of "probably" in that, changing those semantics for lists could be breaking change somewhere | 08:54 | |
| Btw, that approach using `WHICH` is really slow | 09:00 | ||
| eqv can compare lists more cheaply | |||
| m: role ValueList { method WHICH { ValueObjAt.new(self.map(*.WHICH).join: "|") } }; my @a = "booooooo".comb.permutations.map({$_ but ValueList}).unique;say now - BEGIN now | 09:01 | ||
| camelia | 0.654847952 | ||
| Voldenet | m: my @a = "booooooo".comb.permutations.unique(:with(&[eqv])); say now - BEGIN now | ||
| camelia | 0.168533007 | ||
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| antononcube | I cannot upload with fez this package: github.com/antononcube/Raku-WWW-Gemini . I get the message "Error reading META from your last upload". Can someone spot an error in the META file: github.com/antononcube/Raku-WWW-Ge...META6.json | 11:20 | |
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| Well, it looks like fez does not like the dependencies specifications in that MEAT6 file -- it is not clear to me why. | 11:41 | ||
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| Xliff | \o | 11:44 | |
| replit.com/@Xliff/Weekly260#main.raku - Weekly 260, second problem | |||
| For the life of me, I can't understand the first.... I might need coffee. | |||
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| antononcube | Damn! The upload with fez is still problematic. (For “WWW::Gemini” linked above.) | 12:25 | |
| ab5tract | hmm, `META6.json` looks fine to me | 12:30 | |
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| antononcube | Thanks! | 13:19 | |
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| tbrowder__ | antononcube: i can't see my msg here, but i'm forking yr prob repo. you would be better off if you would use App::Mi6 to help manage yr repos. | 13:29 | |
| have you also tried to zef install . --debug ? | |||
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| tbrowder__ | it installed locally just fine so far | 13:33 | |
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| tbrowder__ | using mi6 to upload is much better. it does some xtra checking | 13:36 | |
| using Mi6::Helper "helps" start a new repo project. converting an old one is a small but worthwhile effort. i would be happy to submit PR tondo that if you wish. | 13:38 | ||
| afk& | 13:39 | ||
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| tbrowder__ | Also make sure zef is updated | 13:44 | |
| antononcube | @tbrowder Thanks — I will try mi6. | 13:45 | |
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| @tbrowder I think you wrote an Advent article discussing "Mi6::Helper" (or something similar.) | 14:03 | ||
| Somehow it is not easy to find... | 14:04 | ||
| tbrowder__ | use Raku.land | 14:21 | |
| mi6 is App::Mi6 | 14:22 | ||
| antononcube | Ok. | ||
| tbrowder__ | mi6-helper is in Mi6::Helper | ||
| i probably need to update mi6-helper repo tags in the meta file | 14:24 | ||
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| antononcube | @tbrowder "[...] i would be happy to submit PR tondo that if you wish." -- please do. | 14:56 | |
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| [Coke] | docs team could definitely use some editors or people working the bug queue. Anyone interested in contributing to the docs site, it's very easy to suggest small edits, and I'm definitely open to folks who want to add or edit something more substantial. | 16:09 | |
| please join us in raku-doc (or ping me in this channel if you prefer) | |||
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| lizmat | someone should make lobste.rs have a "raku" category: lobste.rs/search?q=raku&what=s...der=newest | 16:32 | |
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| lizmat | and yet another Rakudo Weekly News hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2024/03/11/2024-11-membering/ | 18:12 | |
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| jdv | what does it take to be on this grants commitee? | 18:17 | |
| codesections: ^ | 18:20 | ||
| aruniecrisps | I saw this from a little while ago, does anyone know the status of this? gist.github.com/codesections/841c9...d0e06dacfb | 18:25 | |
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| Skyb0rg | I'm installing the Rakudo Star Bundle, however I am confused on the installation location settings. I would like to set the installed location to /usr/local, but install the files into /usr/local/stow/rakudo-star-2024.02 to work with GNU stow. Is this possible? | 18:35 | |
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| lizmat | lobste.rs/s/p8ptwq/can_we_have_raku_tag_please | 18:49 | |
| jdv: grant committee chores are basically: reading proposals and voting by email | 18:50 | ||
| with sometimes email discussions inbetween | |||
| weekly: lobste.rs/s/p8ptwq/can_we_have_raku_tag_please | 18:51 | ||
| notable6 | lizmat, Noted! (weekly) | ||
| Geth | Pod-To-HTML: e8e8390347 | (JJ Merelo)++ | .travis.yml Closes #99 :recycle: to Github Actions |
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| Pod-To-HTML: e003354cf3 | (JJ Merelo)++ | .github/workflows/test.yaml #99 forgot this |
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| Pod-To-HTML: 575469090e | (JJ Merelo)++ | README.md _Really_ closes #99 |
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| Geth | Pod-To-HTML: 105b72880f | (JJ Merelo)++ | 2 files Add tags closes #97 |
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| antononcube | @tbrowder Thanks for the advice to use "App::Mi6" -- it helped identify the problem. | 19:36 | |
| [Coke] | you can ask codesections or someone on the board to introduce you to the GC chair. | 19:49 | |
| several of us used to be involved ore directly but it's... been a while | |||
| antononcube | @lizmat "Anton Antonov continues to dissect speeches and articles using LLM functions. This week even twice [...]" -- given some of the screaming I get one might think I am doing vivisection. | 19:50 | |
| lizmat | heh... modern politics appears to be about screaming a lot :-( | 19:52 | |
| antononcube | I try to just present the tools, so people can consume politics writings better. (I hope.) But I think my expositions are too succint to be considered unbiased. | 19:54 | |
| For example, I applied the prompt "FindPropagandaMessage" to Stephen Wolfram's latest article ("Can AI solve science?") and people from the Wolfram community is ask me / told me why did I do that. According to them the article is non-political. | 19:56 | ||
| Well, perhaps, but applying the prompt and reading the outcomes we can state that for sure. | 19:57 | ||
| Anyway, I removed that propaganda section for Wolram's site. Raku community, of course, got the full version. | 19:58 | ||
| @vrurg Because I got distracted working on Stephen Wolfram's article and "WWW::Gemini" I did not make the LLaMA video I promised. I hope I will do it today or tomorrow. | |||
| lizmat | antononcube: having more tools will help in these days of PR overflowing | 20:00 | |
| antononcube: but trust in these tools is even more important | |||
| otherwise they become a PR tool themselves :-( | |||
| antononcube | This is seems relevant: | 20:05 | |
| cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633...017a9& | |||
| lizmat | :-) | 20:07 | |
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| SmokeMachine | Voldenet, aruniecrisps: If interested, I've "started playing" with the idea of migrations: github.com/FCO/Red/issues/15#issue...1989495613 | 21:42 | |
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| librasteve | arun: as an observer it looks to me like code sections immutable data structures never got off the ground | 22:49 | |
| imo raku can get close to this model with the relatively recent ValueList, ValueObj modules since these pin the contents of immutable structures (so they cannot contain containers and can have WHICH semantics eg for set ops) | 22:51 | ||
| deep immutables are not free in that your code can lose data locality / cache performance and so while i think having deep immutables is a worthy long term goal, there is not much you cannot already do with the Value modules | 22:54 | ||
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