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🦋 Welcome to the MAIN() IRC channel of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org). Log available at irclogs.raku.org/raku/live.html . If you're a beginner, you can also check out the #raku-beginner channel! Set by lizmat on 6 September 2022. |
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| melezhik | tell tonyo: how to disable tar in fez config ? | 00:34 | |
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| guifa | .tell tonyo: melezhik is interested in how to disable tar in fez config | 00:45 | |
| tellable6 | guifa, I'll pass your message to tonyo | ||
| guifa | ^^melezhik | ||
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| melezhik | guifa - thanks 🙏 a lot! always forget this "tell" syntax | 01:26 | |
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| tonyo | .tell melezhik add a key `"bundlers": ["Fez::Util::Pax"]` in your ~/.fez-config.json | 03:01 | |
| tellable6 | tonyo, I'll pass your message to melezhik | ||
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| lizmat | and yet another Rakudo Weekly News hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2023/02/06/2023-...en-davies/ | 11:53 | |
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| Skarsnik | @Anton Antonov How is that fiddly? You just need to install libgumbo on your system. I did not try on Windows thou x) | 12:00 | |
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| Anton Antonov | @Skarsnik Well, it did not install because of native libraries dependencies. Installing and linking to those libraries on macOS arm64 is “fiddly.” | 12:38 | |
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| Skarsnik | unfortunate 😦 | 12:42 | |
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| grondilu | Hi all. | 12:49 | |
| Nemokosch | hello | ||
| grondilu | m: class Foo of Bag {}; print (Foo.new("a") (+) Foo.new("b")) ~~ Foo; # was expecting True here | ||
| camelia | ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp> No such method 'set_of' for invocant of type 'Perl6::Metamodel::ClassHOW' at <tmp>:1 |
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| grondilu | heh? | ||
| Nemokosch | re connectified.com/@masukomi/109807721943445406, I think this is the kind of case where everything works "as intended", and the main concrete issue is simply confusing oneself | 12:50 | |
| grondilu | oh my bad | ||
| m: class Foo is Bag {}; print (Foo.new("a") (+) Foo.new("b")) ~~ Foo; # was expecting True here | 12:51 | ||
| camelia | False | ||
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| grondilu | m: class Foo is Bag {}; dd Foo.new("a") (+) Foo.new("b") | 12:51 | |
| camelia | ("a"=>1,"b"=>1).Bag | ||
| lizmat | ah.. looks like the set op doesn't create a Foo but a Bag | ||
| Nemokosch | in a broader picture, well... I think tight coupling of itemization and a mutability interface is a source of many confusing things | 12:52 | |
| lizmat | could you make an issue for that? | ||
| grondilu | lizmat: sure | ||
| lizmat | I guess it should create the tightest possible type, for which we have the .are function nowadays :-) | ||
| grondilu | github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/5190 | 12:56 | |
| lizmat | thanks! | 12:57 | |
| Nemokosch | hm, do the arguments themselves get coerced into Bag? | 12:58 | |
| lizmat | only when they really need to be | ||
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| grondilu | m: class Foo is Bag {}; dd Foo.new("a") (-) Foo.new("b") | 13:04 | |
| camelia | ("a"=>1).Foo | ||
| Nemokosch | oh okay | 13:05 | |
| grondilu | weird that it works for (-) and not (+) | ||
| m: class Foo is Bag {}; dd Foo.new("a") (-) Foo.new("a") | |||
| camelia | ().Foo | ||
| Nemokosch | time for a little sourcery... | ||
| github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/2022...on.pm6#L79 | 13:09 | ||
| versus | |||
| github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/2022...ce.pm6#L67 | |||
| the latter seems to be more abstract to begin with | 13:10 | ||
| lizmat | will look at this after being afk for a few hours& | 13:17 | |
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| Xliff | lizmat: As always, a thoughtful and compelling weekly. Thank you. | 13:25 | |
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| Anton Antonov | weekly: rakuforprediction.wordpress.com/20...megrammar/ | 13:48 | |
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| Nemokosch | I don't think the bot listens through the bridge | 14:00 | |
| although it would be cool | |||
| Voldenet | btw, recently I've seen discord bridge that colored names in IRC, it was pretty nice | 14:02 | |
| regarding things that would be cool | 14:03 | ||
| Nemokosch | I think that was actually turned off | ||
| because of complications | |||
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| mst | I'd be happy to talk through strategies for how to avoid ending up with complications if somebody makes a second attempt | 14:10 | |
| I've spent 15+ years now dealing with the logistical side of channel and network management, so I've both made and seen a lot of things go wrong and can hopefully help whoever's looking at it skip past those so we can get to the making new and exciting mistakes part sooner | 14:12 | ||
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| El_Che | a shorter nick than "< discord-raku-bot><$nick> would be appreciated. It's really hard to parse messages from people on that bot. | 14:19 | |
| (mentally parse) | |||
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| Nemokosch | test | 14:20 | |
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| El_Che | whut? who said that? | 14:20 | |
| Nemokosch | 🤣 | 14:21 | |
| El_Che | :) | ||
| Nemokosch | #onlyIRCThings | 14:22 | |
| <drb> when | 14:23 | ||
| support.github.com/ticket/personal/0/2000413 | 14:26 | ||
| needed for msgpack.org actually showing the Raku version because the crawler willingly ignores forks, bruh | |||
| > We need a request from the admin\owner account to perform this action. Please, add them to this case and let them approve this request. | 14:33 | ||
| Welp, if somebody happens to be the admin/owner of that account, and also understands what "let them approve" looks like... please ^^ | |||
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| patrickb | guifa: Did you notice my DateTime::Timezones PR? | 16:39 | |
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| tonyo | . | 17:22 | |
| cfa | , | 17:26 | |
| Nemokosch | m | 17:30 | |
| tonyo | mst++ | 17:31 | |
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| pingu | maybe I should use regex rather than trying to check if a scalar list is assigned to a certain data type | 19:22 | |
| ^[a-zA-Z0-9](?:[a-zA-Z0-9 ._-]*[a-zA-Z0-9])?\.[a-zA-Z0-9_-]+$ for filename+extension | 19:23 | ||
| it would be a little more efficiant to store the file paramaters as pointers, rather than copying them to a new scalar list | 19:24 | ||
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| Anton Antonov | I tried to upload to raku.land using fez twice today. I got confirmation messages, but I do not see the distributions in raku.land. Is this expected, or “it is just me” ? | 19:39 | |
| Nemokosch | do you see your distribution in this file? 360.zef.pm/ | 19:43 | |
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| ugexe | to be clear you don't upload to raku.land | 20:24 | |
| raku.land is just a site that reads meta data from other sources | |||
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| Anton Antonov | No -- good point! | 20:31 | |
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| japhb | Anyone have any luck installing Doc::TypeGraph + Documentable + p6doc ? There seems to be auth confusion between `github:JJ` and `zef:jjmerelo`, and that seems to make zef very confused. | 21:04 | |
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| Nemokosch | I don't think anybody will try that in the future as that stack is being sunset | 21:21 | |
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| cokebot9000 waves from elsewhere. | 21:34 | ||
| coleman | beep boop | 21:38 | |
| cokebot9000 | ^_^ | 21:42 | |
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| PipStuart | Does anyone happen to know how I might go about locating or generating an updated to current version of HTTPS://FinAnalyst.GitHub.IO/ModuleCitation ? | 22:04 | |
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| Nemokosch | another thing on my kilometer long bucket list... | 22:06 | |
| cokebot9000 | ping @finanalyst | ||
| guifa | patrickb : I did not. | 22:07 | |
| guifa checks | |||
| approved! | 22:08 | ||
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| guifa | thank you for that find | 22:08 | |
| Nemokosch | raku.land/zef:lizmat/Ecosystem this is the module wanted to use | ||
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| cokebot9000 could probably regen the module citation with raku.land/zef:coke/App::Zef-Deps | 22:11 | ||
| Nemokosch | I think the "what depends on what" part is simpler than what I was mostly concerned about: retrospectively filling the graph | 22:12 | |
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| ugexe | zef rdepends Foo::Bar | 22:25 | |
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| patrickb | guifa: I rebased the PR, but I don't have merge permissions, so you'll have to push the button. ;-) | 22:38 | |
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