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🦋 Welcome to the MAIN() IRC channel of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org). Log available at irclogs.raku.org/raku/live.html . If you're a beginner, you can also check out the #raku-beginner channel! Set by lizmat on 6 September 2022. |
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| Nemokosch | Apple can always underperform my ever-so-low expectations of them | 06:45 | |
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| Coke: thank you for the JSON link, I finally got to it | 07:05 | ||
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| Is there an exposed <number> token somewhere? For matching numbers in a regular expression | 08:55 | ||
| I found it in Rakudo, then NQP, then HLL but I wouldn't want to copypaste it to an own script | |||
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| Re: lifting ! negation over junctions - how do I express "if at least one element is not an Array"? | 11:53 | ||
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| lizmat | m: dd ([],[],[]).are ~~ Array | 12:13 | |
| camelia | Bool::True | ||
| lizmat | m: dd ([],[],()).are ~~ Array | ||
| camelia | Bool::False | ||
| lizmat | Nemokosch ^^ | ||
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| lizmat | sadly not documented yet | 12:14 | |
| .are returns the type that is common to all values given | |||
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| Nemokosch | oh wow | 13:06 | |
| thank you | |||
| El_Che | p6steve: you should give podman a go. You can run the same setup on mac, win and linux and no root needed on Linux to run the containers | 13:23 | |
| tellable6 | El_Che, I'll pass your message to p6steve | ||
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| tonyo | Podman++ | 15:08 | |
| Doesn't eat 30gb of ram to run a 512mb container either | |||
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| El_Che | when developing I put my external services like keycloak and mysql in containers to run "author tests" | 15:55 | |
| using podman make this very portable | |||
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| ugexe | i'm soliciting ideas for for a zef-focused tpf grant. i was thinking maybe lockfile support, but that doesn't do much good unless we can change/disable the default repos (such that a script can be run using *only* an external repo, i.e. no site repo) | 17:49 | |
| change/disable the default repos *in raku* | |||
| lizmat | there's Zef::Configuration that allows you to do that | ||
| ugexe | no, that can change zef configuration, not what repositories a raku implementation uses | 17:50 | |
| `raku -I inst#whatever my-script.raku` will always include the site/home/vendor repos | |||
| which makes a lockfile mostly pointless | 17:51 | ||
| lizmat | ah, ok :) | ||
| ugexe | basically $*REPO.repo-chain should be settable via some ENV var | 17:52 | |
| like entirely settable, not just additive | |||
| patrickb | ugexe: There is the use case of rakubrew which I'd like to prevent installation into the installation repos, but into the home dir one (or one entirely separate). I think write protecting the repo dirs would word but is non portable. Some way to cleanly and transparently making the rakubrew installed zef do that would be nice. There might already be a related bug report. | 17:53 | |
| ugexe | then one can do `MY_ONLY_REPO=inst#foo raku my-scrip.raku` and only use modules in the inst#foo repo | ||
| patrickb | s/word/work/ | ||
| ugexe | patrickb: there is a zef config to default to home | 17:54 | |
| github.com/ugexe/zef/blob/6a14c383...ig.json#L5 | |||
| changing that to 'home' makes it install to 'home'. 'auto' installs to 'site' if it is writable, else 'home' | |||
| see: github.com/ugexe/zef/blob/6a14c383...kumod#L408 | 17:56 | ||
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| El_Che | ugexe: If you don't take it as an insult, I would suggest refactoring the cli UI. One of the talks at raku conf described as a wall of text. | 17:59 | |
| (if you don't take it as constructive criticism, I apologize) | |||
| ugexe | yeah it sucks, but its a raku problem | 18:00 | |
| El_Che | a grant may provide you some time to work on that front? | ||
| Nemokosch | well, it can be improved. Maybe not elegantly. | 18:04 | |
| Confer GetOpt::Long and related attempts | |||
| ugexe | i guess im more inclined to work on an area i have particular expertise in since i can know beforehand what is possible and the actual scope. i dont know enough about argument parsing to pick up that torch | ||
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| Nemokosch | that's fair enough | 18:06 | |
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| In fact, I suppose anybody with enough time and patience could improve the feedback of failed argument parsing | 18:08 | ||
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| El_Che | fair enough | 18:34 | |
| ugexe | another thing is using CUR::Staging which means things would only be precompiled once (currently it happens twice; once when testing when they are loaded with a CUR::FileSystem and once when it gets installed to a CUR::Installation). the problem with this is that 1) `zef test .` would need to reinstall the dist in `.` to the temp CUR::Staging repo each time (which also would re-precompile everything, | 18:36 | |
| something that doesn't happen with CUR::FileSystem) and 2) CUR::Staging workflow doesn't work when installing to repos other than site/home/vendor (i.e. no custom install locations) | |||
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| patrickb | ugexe: I'd love to see you tackle the double precomp behavior. | 19:15 | |
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| tonyo | ugexe: something like pyenv/venv? | 20:16 | |
| tbrowder | lizmat: i’m looking at yr Git::Status module seeking good practices. why do you use := here: “my $proc := run <…>, :out”? | 20:18 | |
| and so on inside the block? anything to do with .precomp? | 20:20 | ||
| tonyo | not sure if you saw last night tbrowder but i finally finished the cro tut deathbykeystroke.com/articles/2022...art-b.html | 20:23 | |
| tbrowder | tonyo: you da man! i need to look closer, but it looks like it’s the ultimate cookbook recipe for wannabe website hosts. you really should publish it as a Raku book, or at least part of one. | 20:28 | |
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| tonyo | heh, i think it might make more of a pamphlet unless i add in stuff about how to set up DNS and all the other stuff to consider when choosing a host, etc | 22:35 | |
| but, tyvm | |||
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