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Set by lizmat on 6 September 2022.
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[Coke] On behalf of the docs team, thank! 00:09
s!
guifa_ can we define constants with RakuAST? 00:16
ugexe looks like the google links to docs all 404 now because they don't have .html at the end
docs.raku.org/type/Str vs docs.raku.org/type/Str.html 00:17
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Nemokosch yes, the server is in beta stage, simply put 00:19
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Geth ¦ doc-website: coke assigned to dontlaugh Issue URLS shouldn't require .html github.com/Raku/doc-website/issues/147 00:26
[Coke] ugexe: opened github.com/Raku/doc-website/issues/147
coleman thanks ugexe 00:27
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Geth doc-website/rewrite-rules: 9e98814f4c | (Coleman McFarland)++ | 3 files
Add rewrite rule
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doc-website/rewrite-rules: 1d9656ba8a | (Coleman McFarland)++ | default.conf
Add root
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Geth doc-website/rewrite-rules: 3c537f74a6 | (Coleman McFarland)++ | default.conf
default.conf is what we need to edit

podman run -p 8080:80 -v ./default.conf:/etc/nginx/conf.d/default.conf \
   quay.io/colemanx/raku-doc-website		 01:30
doc-website/rewrite-rules: a94b7ac7f3 | (Coleman McFarland)++ | 2 files
Add rewrites for .html; switch to caddy

This might seem like a drastic change, but it's really not a big deal, since we aren't using advanced configs anyways.
Caddy's configuration language is much saner for our use-case, and it even opens the door to api-based config.		 01:52
coleman Opened a PR for the rewrite thing 01:55
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Geth doc-website/main: a12436b52a | (Coleman McFarland)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 2 files
Add rewrites for .html; switch to caddy (#148)

This might seem like a drastic change, but it's really not a big deal, since we aren't using advanced configs anyways.
Caddy's configuration language is much saner for our use-case, and it even opens the door to api-based config.		 05:38
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[Coke] raku.org is pointing at colabti 06:11
coleman: before I press the button, it's "new build", yes? any env vars I need to set 06:14
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grondilu Hello. Anyone wants to help me figure out what I am doing wrong in this grammar: gist.github.com/grondilu/50e1143c3...20e344f659 ? 09:58
It's supposed to parse Wolfram language, the most simple form of it : Head[arg1, arg2, ...] 09:59
Where 'Head, arg1, arg2' are atoms (identifiers or numbers) or other expressions. 10:00
It shouldn't be hard, yet I can't for the sake of me write a working grammar. 10:01
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guifa_ The thing that jumps out to me is 10:43
rule expression { ……… | <expression> …… }
that has the potential to hang because it'll generate an infinite loop 10:44
Anton Antonov Also, with rule you are saying — I think — that there should be a space between Head and square brackets. 10:45
grondilu yeah Nemokosch is currently trying to explain that to me on discord 10:47
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grondilu left recursion and stuff. 10:47
guifa_ How about this? 10:48
rule expression { <atom> <argument>* }
token argument { '[' ~ ']' <expression>* % [',' \s*] }
that passes all of your tests
It also passes ok Wolfram.parse('Foo[bar][arg1, arg2, Foo[bar]]'); 10:49
Which I assume is also valid
grondilu it does, but as I was discussing with Nemokosh, it makes it difficult for me to extract the Heads.
in the correct order, that is. 10:53
like say I have 'foo[one][two]' 10:54
it's an expression whose head is 'foo[one]'
I'm not sure how I can get it from the match object.
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Anton Antonov You need to change your rule definition to explicitly use rule for the “head’ expression. 10:55
grondilu that hangs too. 10:58
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grondilu (see second revision of gist above) 10:58
Anton Antonov See here : github.com/antononcube/Raku-Mathematica-Grammar
grondilu ah, nice. I knew someone else had to have worked on this before. 10:59
Anton Antonov The section “Grammar derivation” discusses “your issue” in point 4. 11:00
grondilu I'll check this out, thanks. 11:01
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Manifest0 Hi! The search function in the docs.raku.org isn't working anymore :-( 12:46
There are some errors in the browser console: i.imgur.com/lw0Wro8.png 12:48
oh... I needed to disable the localcdn extension. 12:50
It works now
lizmat Manifest0 perhaps make an issue for that so that it can be put in a FAQ ? 12:53
Manifest0 I have to say that i like this new website and how the documention is now organized.
lizmat: sure
Voldenet Wow, those new docs look amazing 12:54
Manifest0 done: github.com/Raku/doc-website/issues/150 13:00
Nemokosch it's safe to say that the search is a WIP 13:05
it was becoming kind of urgent to actually deploy so the compromise to make was that some things won't be perfectly sorted out at the beginning 13:07
lizmat and yet another Rakudo Weekly News hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2023/02/27/2023-...u-renewed/ 13:12
Voldenet btw, regarding the styles on the page: developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/W...yle_sheets 13:15
lizmat Voldenet: you'd probably want to mention that on the #raku-doc channel, or make a doc-website issue ? 13:17
Voldenet lizmat: I will use that channel, thanks
Nemokosch what's with the styles on the page? 13:18
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[Coke] guesses from the URL of the weekly that the doc site note was included. ;) 13:29
lizmat [Coke]: it was :-) 13:30
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rf morning folks 13:55
frost lizmat++
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Geth doc/main: c7f4f08475 | (Brian Duggan)++ | CREDITS
update credits
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Voldenet Nemokosch: basically, firefox has this theme switching feature (also other browsers) that didn't even require js 14:23
tellable6 Voldenet, I'll pass your message to Nemokosch
Voldenet so dark/light skins could be switched from the menu 14:24
moritz it still exists 14:25
View -> Page Style
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="..." title="name to be shown in the menu" /> 14:26
Voldenet I know, that's why I mentioned it :P
but it doesn't exist in chrome, which became current version of "the internet"
moritz ah, why did I read "had" instead of "has"? :-)
haven't tried it, but I'd bet Opera had it at some point as well 14:27
Voldenet your instincts told you that this feature might've been gone… :)
[Coke] yah, the themes in new docs site are manual, if we can make it automatic in firefox, that'd be great.
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grondilu /j raku 14:31
[Coke] can someone open a ticket on doc-website regarding the themes? 14:33
Nemokosch it would be good to have a solution that does not make the whole theme switching useless for those who don't have (or just simply don't use) this particular browser-specific feature 14:36
prefers-color-scheme is respected iirc, courtesy of Zephyr 14:39
shmup can i see a screenshot of what y'all are experiencing 14:41
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[Coke] nemokosch - yes, we won't take away existing theme functionality on chrome. 14:44
Nemokosch 🍬 14:48
Voldenet [Coke]: added the issue with that (and my findings on the topic) github.com/Raku/doc-website/issues/151 15:00
el C:\Users\jack9\Documents\raku\Super>fez upload =<< ERROR: Failed to write 67 bytes to filehandle: Bad file descriptor 15:06
help
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i upgraded the windows version 15:06
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[Coke] is sad that App::Uni doesn't seem to work well on windows. /me wonders if it needs some kind of font backfill for emojis. 15:35
Geth doc/main: 9975aef048 | raiph++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | CREDITS
Fix my email address

I don't want credit, but also don't want an email address that I consider lost to hackers (many years ago) to appear to belong to me.		 15:36
doc/main: e622fdff0f | raiph++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | CREDITS
Fix my email address

Last "fix" wasn't correct. Sorry.		 15:37
Nemokosch is there no verbose mode? 15:40
el no
[Coke] wonder if it's possibly a MAX_PATH issue. 15:42
ugexe el gatito: when you said you upgraded windows version what exactly did you do 15:44
like a patch level upgrade, 10 -> 11 upgrade, etc
el updated from windows 1507 to 1803
[Coke] what does this say: systeminfo | findstr /B /C:"OS Name" /C:"OS Version" 15:45
(my version of sw_vers for windows) 15:46
ugexe I don't see where uploading in fez would open a file handle
[Coke] (I ask because my number is an order of magnitude bigger than 1803)
ugexe: doesn't it upload a tarball?
ugexe it looks like its just passing a path as an argument to curl (which should interact with the handle, not raku itself)
[Coke] ah 15:47
el [Coke
ugexe unless "Failed to write 67 bytes to filehandle: Bad file descriptor" is a curl error
el [Coke
[Coke]: OS Name: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OS Version: 10.0.17134 N/A Build 17134 OS Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation OS Configuration: Standalone Workstation OS Build Type: Multiprocessor Free 15:48
[Coke] Thanks. 15:49
I personally have not used zef on windows.
ugexe github.com/tony-o/raku-fez/blob/4d...akumod#L30 removing the :out, :err from that line should output whatever curl would to stdout 15:50
[Coke] You can clone fez locally, make that mod, and either run it from the clone or install the modified version.
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ugexe you could also clone it locally, make that change, and then run `RAKULIB=/path/to/cloned/repo fez upload ...` I think 15:51
it might also help if it was ran with --ll-exception, but alas there is no env flag for that so I think you'd have to do this little trick of loading the CLI as a module: `raku --ll-exception -MFez::CLI -e '' upload ...` 15:53
[Coke] oh, I've been running irssi on a remote, old mac mini, and ssh'ing in and running tmux from various clients. using windows terminal (available from MS store) is a huge quality of life improvement when sshing from windows. unicode support, and links in irc are clickable! 15:54
ugexe winget is pretty cool too 15:55
i use it to install various packages (similar to chocolately)
liek visual studio
now if rakubrew could be installed via winget... 15:56
[Coke] 👍 15:57
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Nemokosch well, what needs to be done for that? 16:04
Geth doc-website/clean-up-caddyfile: c73c8ee592 | (Coleman McFarland)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | Caddyfile
Clean up Caddyfile

Remove unused "named" matcher rule. Fix spacing.		 16:06
el no same error message PS C:\Users\jack9\documents\raku\Super> fez upload =<< ERROR: Failed to write 67 bytes to filehandle: Bad file descriptor 16:08
Geth docker/2023.02: 2f4a2aa423 | (Daniel Mita)++ | 5 files
Bump to 2023.02
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docker: m-dango++ created pull request #53:
Bump to 2023.02		 16:11
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[Coke] docs.raku.org/type/Int now working in prod. 16:19
Nemokosch I haven't seen this footer before, looks cool 16:21
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Geth ¦ doc-website: dontlaugh self-assigned How to test changes to Tooling without affecting production? github.com/Raku/doc-website/issues/152 16:51
tonyo el gatito: do you have a non-typical tmp dir setup? 16:55
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Geth ¦ doc-website: coke assigned to dontlaugh Issue Proc::Async is generated as Proc/Async github.com/Raku/doc-website/issues/149 16:59
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Geth doc-website/reflog_defaults_to_doc_without_value: f833cb9f21 | finanalyst++ | Website/plugins/git-reflog/add-ref-hash.raku
make reflog fail softly if no reflog obtained
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doc-website/caddycolons: 50c6cfe515 | (Will Coleda)++ | Caddyfile
Support old-style Proc::Async URLs

go live only supported /Proc/Async, this restores the old functionality - many links to the docs depend on this style.
Part of #149		 17:24
doc-website/main: f05bc2f743 | (Will Coleda)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | Caddyfile
Support old-style Proc::Async URLs (#158)

go live only supported /Proc/Async, this restores the old functionality - many links to the docs depend on this style.
Part of #149
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[Coke] Oof, so many lines. 17:27
Geth doc-website/clean-up-caddyfile: f05bc2f743 | (Will Coleda)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | Caddyfile
Support old-style Proc::Async URLs (#158)

go live only supported /Proc/Async, this restores the old functionality - many links to the docs depend on this style.
Part of #149		 17:29
doc-website/clean-up-caddyfile: 7380f0ff27 | (Coleman McFarland)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | Caddyfile
Merge branch 'main' into clean-up-caddyfile
doc-website/main: c73c8ee592 | (Coleman McFarland)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | Caddyfile
Clean up Caddyfile

Remove unused "named" matcher rule. Fix spacing.		 17:32
doc-website/main: 7380f0ff27 | (Coleman McFarland)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | Caddyfile
Merge branch 'main' into clean-up-caddyfile
doc-website/main: 0f73ed75aa | (Coleman McFarland)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | Caddyfile
Merge pull request #154 from Raku/clean-up-caddyfile

Clean up Caddyfile
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tbrowder .seen ufobat 17:37
tellable6 tbrowder, I saw ufobat 2020-10-08T09:28:19Z in #raku: <ufobat> can one write libs in raku, compile them into a jar and use it in java/kotlin projects?
[Coke] moving doc-website & doc geth updates to just raku-doc...
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[Coke] ... per request, leaving doc here. -website is moved 17:39
tonyo looks good 17:40
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tbrowder anyone know of @ufobat's status? (Time::Crontab) 17:43
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lizmat they seem to have become a lot less active on Github since 2020 17:51
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cfa morning 18:11
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lizmat cfa o/ 18:27
El_Che hello 18:28
cfa hey lizmat, El_Che
[Coke] docs.raku.org/type/Proc::Async and realted URLS should be working again. 18:33
*related
cfa looks like there's a regression in 2023.02, found via a failing doc examples test 18:36
m: multi sub infix:<||=>($a, $b) is equiv(&infix:<+=>) { $a || $b }; my $foo = 0; $foo ||= 1;
camelia ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp>
No such method 'op_props' for invocant of type 'Block'
at <tmp>:1
cfa bisectable6: multi sub infix:<||=>($a, $b) is equiv(&infix:<+=>) { $a || $b }; my $foo = 0; $foo ||= 1;
bisectable6 cfa, Will bisect the whole range automagically because no endpoints were provided, hang tight
cfa, Output on all releases: gist.github.com/2fee0c5bf19d849b59...462c98261e 18:37
cfa, Bisecting by exit code (old=2022.12 new=2023.02). Old exit code: 0
cfa, bisect log: gist.github.com/0f5e79e87f0273fbd1...ea5f7e19d1 18:39
cfa, Bisecting by exit code (old=2016.12 new=2017.01). Old exit code: 1
cfa, bisect log: gist.github.com/c3c1aac555c8f401c3...5bf8073dcb
cfa, (2017-01-09) github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/a7...cbbf8694a6
cfa, Output on all releases and bisected commits: gist.github.com/56a6497914763c6a0e...d696228cfd
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shmup cfa: i have things to fix. sorry if you see weird output from the irssi script. aka an extra > throws off the grep. gotta fix that 18:44
aka i.imgur.com/iF2GM2A.png 18:45
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cfa shmup: sure thing 18:49
shmup should be better now cfa. if ur perl is strong, maybe you'll see a prob idk. github.com/shmup/irssi-scripts/blo...mer.pl#L33 19:11
just lazied it
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cfa bisectable6: multi sub infix:<||=>($a, $b) is equiv(&infix:<+=>) { $a || $b }; my $foo = 0; $foo ||= 1; say $foo 20:11
bisectable6 cfa, Will bisect the whole range automagically because no endpoints were provided, hang tight
cfa, Output on all releases: gist.github.com/76206dee2e26324b4b...ccad04701e 20:12
cfa, Bisecting by exit code (old=2022.12 new=2023.02). Old exit code: 0
cfa, bisect log: gist.github.com/eb01bf61dcb88f5a7a...9425b60cc8 20:13
cfa, Bisecting by exit code (old=2016.12 new=2017.01). Old exit code: 1
cfa, bisect log: gist.github.com/0574ca270d5d9b027e...f7d3fae0d8 20:14
cfa, (2017-01-09) github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/a7...cbbf8694a6
cfa, Output on all releases and bisected commits: gist.github.com/9516f200dc2befcf57...c3743e9935
cfa hopefully captured in github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/5221 20:17
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siberia-man hello, everyone 21:07
Nemokosch 👋 21:08
siberia-man Would you be so kind as to let me know the meaning of the "@@" in raku, please? And where can I read more about it and possibly other magics? 21:10
Nemokosch can you point at the context where it appeared? 21:12
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Geth raku.org: zag++ created pull request #180:
Update index.html		 21:16
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rf How can I append a string to a buf 21:35
Buf.append('str'.ords); 21:36
I feel like that kind of isn't great
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tonyo m: my Buf[uint8] $b .=new; $b.append('str'.encode); $b.decode.say; 21:46
camelia str
ugexe $buf ~= "str".encode
tonyo siberia-man: in regexes? 21:47
tellable6 tonyo, I'll pass your message to siberia-man
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