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🦋 Welcome to the MAIN() IRC channel of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org). Log available at irclogs.raku.org/raku/live.html . If you're a beginner, you can also check out the #raku-beginner channel! Set by lizmat on 6 September 2022. |
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| SmokeMachine | usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/.../image.png | 01:23 | |
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| Geth | ecosystem/main: c7db26fcdd | 0racle++ | META.list Remove Exportable (move to zef) & wig (deprecate) |
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| nemokosch | ❤️ | 15:25 | |
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| the raku.org rework is looking quite good so far, only minor issues, although I can imagine that a certain one will turn out to be more complicated | 16:11 | ||
| lizmat | is there a preview? | 16:12 | |
| nemokosch | Well, there is not much to view. The current aim is to reproduce the same pages. | 16:15 | |
| lizmat | ack, ok :-) | 16:16 | |
| nemokosch | let me ask this again: do we know anything about the infrastructure side, how it is deployed and how should the required modules be installed? | 16:17 | |
| lizmat | no, actually I don't, but people on #raku-infra should know | ||
| nemokosch | roger, I will ask | 16:18 | |
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| is there syntax for creating a none() junction? | 17:19 | ||
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| lizmat | don't think so | 17:24 | |
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| lizmat | m: sub infix:<!>(*@a) { none(@a) }; dd 42 ! 666 # meh, looks like an infix:<!> would need a grammar tweak | 17:26 | |
| camelia | ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp> Negation metaoperator not followed by valid infix at <tmp>:1 ------> sub infix:<!>(*@a) { none(@a) }; dd 42 !⏏ 666 # meh, looks like an infix:<!> wo expecting any of: infi… |
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| lizmat | m: sub infix:<§>(*@a) { none(@a) }; dd 42 § 666 | 17:27 | |
| camelia | none(42, 666) | ||
| lizmat | m: sub infix:<§>(*@a) { none(@a) }; dd 42 § 666 § 137 | ||
| camelia | none(none(42, 666), 137) | ||
| lizmat | heh | ||
| m: sub infix:<§>(*@a) is prec{ :assoc<list> } { none(@a) }; dd 42 § 666 § 137 | 17:31 | ||
| camelia | none(42, 666, 137) | ||
| teatime | did you pick 137 because it is prime | 17:32 | |
| ... disregard | |||
| why do I recognize 137 as a 'special' number | 17:33 | ||
| lizmat | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/137_(number)#In_physics | 17:34 | |
| teatime | heh, yes I think that is why, ty | 17:37 | |
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| librasteve | true … it is a big improvement on C and very fast and powerful … but I struggle with meeting all the constraints that it imposes and prefer a fast and easy route (except when I need the speed) | 18:49 | |
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| JohnLaw | my &f = {map {:3(.base(2))%2 },[X+&] ^2**$_ xx 2} | 19:54 | |
| this is the function for calculating the Walsh matrix. | 19:55 | ||
| but when I type it into the interpter it truncates the output if it is large. | |||
| how to make it print it all? | |||
| like for f(4) | |||
| [10] > f(3) | 19:56 | ||
| (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1) | |||
| [11] > | |||
| is ok cause it is small enough. | |||
| but f(4) not so much. | |||
| [11] > f(4) | 19:57 | ||
| (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 ...) | |||
| [12] > | |||
| ... is not what I want | |||
| Nahita | yeah it shows the gist of it | ||
| nemokosch | lizmat made an environment option recently | ||
| Nahita | like .gist | ||
| you can .raku for more | |||
| nemokosch | an environment option that lets you set how the REPL stringifies by default | ||
| JohnLaw | ok, I just downloaded this. Any more clues would be great | 19:58 | |
| but thanks | |||
| .raku | 19:59 | ||
| to you | |||
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| nemokosch | what version? | 19:59 | |
| JohnLaw | latest one for windows 64 | ||
| just got it | 20:00 | ||
| rakudo-moar-2023.06-01-win-x86_640msvc.msi | |||
| rakudo-moar-2023.06-01-win-x86_64msvc.msi | 20:01 | ||
| nemokosch | .raku always works but hang tight, I'm gonna check this environmental variable, I don't remember the name... | ||
| RAKU_REPL_OUTPUT_METHOD | |||
| JohnLaw | what do I do with that string? | 20:02 | |
| nemokosch | how do you start the repl? | ||
| JohnLaw | I have a thing on my task bar for Radudo REPL | 20:03 | |
| I just punch it | |||
| then this window pops up and I define my function, f | |||
| then I type f(4) | |||
| and it eats it | |||
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| nemokosch | yeah I don't know if it's convenient to set an environment variable, then... | 20:05 | |
| JohnLaw | I can try, what do I set? | ||
| varialbe and value? | |||
| nemokosch | RAKU_REPL_OUTPUT_METHOD to raku | ||
| JohnLaw | ok will do thanks | 20:06 | |
| nemokosch | the default value is "gist", hence the difference | ||
| JohnLaw | that explains why this used to work long ago when I wrote my article. | ||
| www.thespoof.com/spoof-news/scienc...rakudocide | 20:07 | ||
| thanks alot | |||
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| JohnLaw | Hi notna | 20:08 | |
| enjoy this www.thespoof.com/spoof-news/scienc...rakudocide | |||
| nemokosch | the spoof xD | 20:09 | |
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| JohnLaw | yeah cool stuff | 20:10 | |
| nemokosch | is it like The Onion? | 20:11 | |
| JohnLaw | more like garlic | 20:14 | |
| it really stinks | |||
| nemokosch | XD | 20:15 | |
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| SmokeMachine | Now there is a prototype of a documentation badly written and even worse formatted: github.com/FCO/RakuCron | 20:20 | |
| JohnLaw | thanks everyone.. got to reboot now to get the effect | 20:31 | |
| bye | |||
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| tbrowder__ | i can't top JohnLaw's spoof, but i would like to revisit using Rakudo and zef on a multi-user Linux system. | 21:02 | |
| i would like to have root maintain the rakudo installation for all users (but each can of course have their own setup if desired). | 21:04 | ||
| gfldex | That's what I do. | 21:05 | |
| tbrowder__ | the problems i have had are keeping separate zef installations for root and other users. | ||
| i have been using the rakudo-pkg installation method for many years now, but i unfortunatl | 21:07 | ||
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| gfldex | I didn't have trouble with that so far but would consider it not well tested. zef does a fairly good job to keep things separate. | 21:07 | |
| tbrowder__ | *unfortunately i seem to mix them. | ||
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| tbrowder__ | which causes all kinds of problems. | 21:08 | |
| actually there is only on host with a problem. i'm going to purge rakudo and root's zef and start over. | 21:10 | ||
| also i don't really understand debian's new way of handling sudo users and that hasn't helped the situation. | 21:11 | ||
| if that doesn't cure my problem, i'll be back. | 21:13 | ||
| gfldex: do you use debian? | 21:24 | ||
| regardless, how do you execute zef as root? (1) "sudo zef ..." or (2) "sudo su; zef ..." or (3) some other way? | 21:27 | ||
| gfldex | I do use debian and I build Rakudo from source and I don't use sudo at all. I don't need to blur the line between root and users, so I don't. | 21:30 | |
| If I need scripts to do root-stuff, I write a demon. | 21:31 | ||
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| Geth | ecosystem/main: e6cb6804a0 | 0racle++ | META.list Remove Net::Netmask (move to zef) |
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| tbrowder__ | gfldex: so, if you have multiple users, you would have each install their own rakudo (or do it for them)? | 23:36 | |
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