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| arVM/string_pressure: 6463edb | (Timo Paulssen)++ | src/gc/ (2 files): relieve pressure in the gc instead of allocated_string |
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| jnthn | rurban: Was it you who suggested me as a mentor on wiki.enlightenedperl.org/gsoc2014/ideas for "Fix NQPLexPad for parrot threads"? | 16:39 | |
| Either way, anybody whose registered there, plesae remove me. | 16:40 | ||
| Woulda been polite for whoever did it to ask. | |||
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| rurban | sorry | 16:59 | |
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| rurban | yes it was me. you are the only one I could think of as you wrote this part | 17:03 | |
| And it would be beneficial, because you still fail to see why lock-less parrot threads scale better than locking moarvm threads | 17:04 | ||
| jnthn | Your ignorance is utterly astounding. :/ | 17:11 | |
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| timotimo | rurban: fwiw, forcing (or "encouraging", depending on your interpretation of what you did) jnthn to mentor a project for that won't necessarily make him change his mind in your favor either way | 17:12 | |
| rurban | I just wrote: Possible mentor | 17:21 | |
| Because I cannot think of anyone else. | |||
| But I forgot to ask, yes | |||
| timotimo | ah, i think possible mentor is more like "a student can choose from these mentors" | 17:22 | |
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| [Coke] | At this point, we're at "people who are willing to mentor a student" | 17:42 | |
| Looks like it's been removed. Danke. | 17:44 | ||
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| [Coke] | regarding the actual work of getting rakudo-parrot to implement the concurrency stuff, I think there's enough in place now for someone to try it out - we have a working set of code running on rakudo-jvm, so we have a good idea of what we want it to look like from that end. someone "just" needs to wire the rakudo end into the parrot end. | 17:53 | |
| I believe that work has already started on moarvm. | |||
| timotimo | we've already started parallelism stuff on moar, aye | 17:54 | |
| rurban | so who is willing to mentor for nqp-p? | 18:10 | |
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| FROGGS | rurban: you are talking about "Fix NQPLexPad for parrot threads" ? | 18:17 | |
| rurban | yes | 18:19 | |
| this is really a perl6 issue, not parrot | 18:20 | ||
| [Coke] | You'll get a slightly better response in #perl6 rather than #moarvm | 18:22 | |
| TimToady | Mebbe. I gave up predicting what people would do a long time ago... :) | 18:31 | |
| [Coke] | looking at github.com/perl6/nqp/issues/67 and at the nqplexpad class in nqp, I have no idea what needs to be done. | 18:34 | |
| (which only tells me I ain't the guy to work on this, at least right now) | 18:35 | ||
| rurban | that's why I said only jnthn could help, realistically | 18:51 | |
| FROGGS | rurban: I would like to mentor it, but at the same time I fear I'm unable to do so | ||
| TimToady | rurban: the pragmatics problem here (quite apart from the technical issues) is that you gave the /appearance/ of trying to guilt-trip jnthn into helping with something that is *way* down on his list of priorities, and most of the jnthns I know don't respond well to that sort of approach | 19:15 | |
| and you kinda ignored the fact that this particular jnthn has developed a bit of an allergy for parrots, so has to avoid 'em, or he starts to sneeze | 19:16 | ||
| so realistically, no, jnthn can't help | 19:17 | ||
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| masak | rurban: some tips for next time you are interested in getting someone's help: saying "because you still fail to see why [I'm right about something and you are wrong]" hasn't been known to make someone *more* eager to pitch in, ever. | 20:48 | |
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| masak | rurban: it would have antagonized jnthn to helping you if he, you know, wanted to in the first place. | 20:49 | |
| rurban: it's nice to see you here on this channel, but it tends not to be full of people convinced of Parrot's superiority in the threading department. ;) | 20:51 | ||
| rurban | hey, I wanted to attract help for you. I don't really care for rakudo nor nqp that much | 21:30 | |
| well, I decided to stay quiet on diakopters famous claims when he made them. It was just too off. the parrots threads author should have defended it | 21:31 | ||
| but, in summary, it's nonsense. | 21:32 | ||
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