| flussence | for some reason the code it compiles there just emits nothing, trying to figure out why... | 00:00 | |
| I'm at a complete loss; when I extract the C and the commands Configure.pl runs and do them manually it works fine | 00:05 | ||
| timotimo | wow, crap. | 00:06 | |
| how does it communicate that outwards? printf? | |||
| flussence | it's a printf("%u\n" thingy | 00:08 | |
| timotimo | mhm | ||
| you said when you run it manually it works, eh? o_O | |||
| flussence | this is failing in the middle of a gentoo ebuild, mind you | ||
| but still, this *used* to work | |||
| argh | |||
| I'm really struggling to figure out why it doesn't all of a sudden | 00:09 | ||
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| timotimo | it gets killed by a signal or something? | 00:11 | |
| flussence | nope, the program just... doesn't print anything | 00:13 | |
| timotimo | o_O | ||
| so some #define not working out? | |||
| flussence installs gdb | 00:15 | ||
| let's see if I can remember how to use this thing... | |||
| and it's only doing it on one machine /o\ | 00:19 | ||
| timotimo | oh lord | 00:20 | |
| flussence | one out of three, that's fun. maybe I should just reboot it and see if that unscrews things... | 00:24 | |
| timotimo | i hope thta machine still comes up :S | 00:25 | |
| sounds shaky | |||
| flussence | still no good, gah | 00:35 | |
| ...doh | |||
| disabling distcc fixes it. | |||
| which doesn't make sense, cause I've got that on this other comp and it works fine there. | 00:36 | ||
| eh, whatever. nobody's going to hit it but weirdos like me :) | 00:44 | ||
| timotimo | we could just try it 4 times before giving up | 00:49 | |
| if we get the '' output, that is | |||
| flussence | wait a sec... why doesn't it just `use Config`? | 00:51 | |
| m: use Inline::Perl5; say Inline::Perl5.new.run('use Config; $Config{ptrsize}'); # that specifically | 01:00 | ||
| camelia | rakudo-moar d714e5: OUTPUTĀ«===SORRY!===ā¤Could not find Inline::Perl5 in:ā¤ /home/camelia/.perl6/2015.12-316-gd714e50ā¤ /home/camelia/rakudo-m-inst-2/share/perl6/siteā¤ /home/camelia/rakudo-m-inst-2/share/perl6/vendorā¤ /home/camelia/rakudo-m-inst-2/share/perl6ā¤ ā¦Ā» | ||
| flussence | star: use Inline::Perl5; say Inline::Perl5.new.run('use Config; $Config{ptrsize}'); | 01:01 | |
| camelia | star-m 2015.09: OUTPUTĀ«===SORRY!===ā¤Could not find Inline::Perl5 in any of:ā¤ file#/home/camelia/.perl6/2015.09/libā¤ inst#/home/camelia/.perl6/2015.09ā¤ file#/home/camelia/star-2015.09/share/perl6/libā¤ file#/home/camelia/star-2015.09/share/perl6/vendor/libā¤ file#/homeā¦Ā» | ||
| flussence | aw nuts | ||
| but yeah, that oneliner is a biiiiiit simpler and more reliable than trying to reinvent the wheel :) | 01:02 | ||
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| timotimo | flussence: i just now thought about this: how do we do cross-compilation if we just use Perl5 to get that value? | 09:46 | |
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| flussence | cross-compilation is hardcoded in a separate sub to use 4 :) | 12:24 | |
| timotimo | umm ... m) | 12:25 | |
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| brrt | good * #moarvm | 13:30 | |
| jnthn | o/ brrt | 13:31 | |
| brrt | \o jnthn | ||
| long time little overlap in irc presence :-) | |||
| how are things | |||
| jnthn | Not too bad | 13:33 | |
| Energy levels and stuff slowly improving. | |||
| brrt | thats good to hear :-) | 13:34 | |
| jnthn | Still not "recovered", though at least more motivated and back to enjoying working on stuff. Mostly $dayjob stuff of late. :-) | ||
| Though plugged us some leaks in MoarVM :) | 13:35 | ||
| And trying to untangle the Perl 6 versioning story... | 13:36 | ||
| brrt | i saw that. it looks complex | ||
| as in, a difficult job to do | 13:37 | ||
| jnthn | Yeah. | 13:42 | |
| brrt | it basically means getting the whole community on a single line | ||
| maybe even reducing commit bits for rakudo | |||
| although that may not be necessary | |||
| given that there is always revert | 13:43 | ||
| jnthn | Well, you'll never get everyone to agree on these things, but so far I think I've just about managed to tread a course that hasn't caused a lot of strong disagreement. | ||
| I'd be surprised if we'd have to resort to anything like taking away commit bits. As you say, there's revert, but more than that I trust the folks who have them. :) | 13:45 | ||
| brrt | i think your proposal is quite reasonable | ||
| hmmm... true | |||
| #perl6 is remarkably nonhierarchical | |||
| and pleasant, imho :-) | 13:46 | ||
| jnthn | Yes. In fact, even the repos with really liberal commit bit policies have seen nearly no issues. | 13:47 | |
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| jnthn | (That arose from that policy) | 13:47 | |
| heh, that moment when you wonder why Visual Studio Code's autocomplete just busted randomly...then realize when you come back from grabbing a cuppa that you were doing the edits in Atom. | 13:51 | ||
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| brrt actually never uses autocomplete | 14:29 | ||
| jnthn rarely does either | |||
| I tried to write C# without it and then realized I didn't *know* the class libraries well, I just autocomplete my way to using them. :/ | 14:30 | ||
| Funny thing though. I did a couple of .Net certs once. Microsoft's naming schemes are consistent and predictable enough that I could just look at a name and be like "nah, they'd never call the method *that*" and pass the cert. :P | 14:31 | ||
| nwc10 | that's an interesting failure mode for multiple choice tests | 14:32 | |
| brrt | that is an extremely common failure mode for multiple choice tests | ||
| that is basically how i got my bachelors degree | |||
| :-P | |||
| nwc10 | "which of these is not an Elbonian word?" ... "congratulations, you scored >80% and we will award you a certificate in Elbonian" | 14:33 | |
| ilmari can't remember a single multiple-choice test during his bachelor's studies | 14:34 | ||
| but that was a) in .no, and b) 10-15 years ago | |||
| every time I think about how long ago uni was I feel old | 14:35 | ||
| geekosaur | (tell me about it... early 1980s) | 14:39 | |
| jnthn | Yeah. Thankfully, I don't need to worry about doing certs any more. :) | 14:43 | |
| ...or university :P | 14:45 | ||
| Though uni was at least fun :) | |||
| brrt | it can be | 14:51 | |
| if you want it | |||
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