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patrickb timo: I've added a big comment to the longjmp PR. I think we should keep the fixes for all the archs where MS tries to do stack unwinding even if we don't JIT yet. It doesn't hurt and we can then rely on the semantics of longjmp(). 14:07
timo, ab5tract: If you don't object, I'd like to keep the longjmp PR the way it is now (i.e. don't extend the build system to detect the stack unwinder and only run the fix in affected scenarios). 14:10
I think trying to be smart about the longjmp situation might actually hurt. What if we do a build on a system where the fix isn't needed and then try to distribute the build to other Windows systems? 14:11
timo OK, that sounds reasonable 14:14
do you think it's too close to the next release to merge it?
lizmat there's been no blin run yet, so I think it'd be ok 14:16
timo we don't blin for windows, do we? 14:18
lizmat fwiw, I don't think we do
so in that respect the question is moot anyway
timo we don't have a big number of people who build moar&nqp&rakudo from main/main/main every day 14:19
patrickb lizmat: Has the pumpking situation for the next release been resolved? 14:20
lizmat ? you mean the release manager ? 14:21
patrickb Yes
lizmat not yet... [Coke] said he'd consider it
timo en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_shoe is wearing those a prerequisite? 14:22
lizmat I don't think so :-) 14:23
timo they are spelled "pumps" in german, too, but pronounced like ... pöms? doesn't really translate to text, IPA says /pœmps/ 14:26
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumps actually these look kinda different from the ones in the en.wikipedia.org article that it links to as "the english version of this" 14:28
patrickb timo: Just curious, do you know why it's possible for you to push to a branch that lives under /patrickbkr/MoarVM ?
timo yes, there's a setting you can set on a pull request 14:30
i think it's called something like "allow maintainers to edit" or some such
patrickb Ah! Cool. I didn't know about that.- 14:31
timo the comment is very good btw
patrickb Thanks! 14:32
[Coke] Yes, it's too close to the release. 15:25
Having my crappy blin run be the arbiter of "safe" is not entirely ... safe.
(also yes, I have not yet agreed :)
But am guessing I am the only blin alternative at this point. 15:27
pumps in english is more of a lady's shoe with heels, I think. 15:28
not "opera pumps".
lizmat and yet another Rakudo Weekly News hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2024/11/18/2024-...butterfly/ 17:07
timo so, accessing a stale hash table's control structure currently oopses moarvm ... but does it really have to? 19:06
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timo do we want to investigate pthread thread cancellation? 20:12
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lizmat nicholas originally implemented that to prevent random crashes: at least now we haz an exception? 22:07
timo well, an oops is more than just an exception 22:08
it can't be caught, it exits moar ASAP
lizmat true, but at least it points at a specific cause 22:10
timo sure 22:17