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brrt | good * #moarvm | 06:00 | |
nwc10 | good *, brrt | ||
brrt unfortunateky didnt bring his laptop while commuting | 06:01 | ||
so no hacking... :-( | |||
nwc10 | more thinking time | ||
brrt | aye. | ||
and staring out of windows | 06:02 | ||
as in, made of glass windows | |||
isn't it funny how there are only a small number of options to solve nearly any problem... | 06:06 | ||
caching is one. Moving from singulars to sets, and from sets to specially structured sets | 06:08 | ||
is anothrer | |||
nwc10 | neither "another layer of indirection" nor "bigger hammer" seem to be in your list :-) | 06:09 | |
brrt | another layer of indirection is one :-) but not my favorite | ||
very easy to get lost in those | 06:10 | ||
TimToady | caching is an off-by-one-layer-of-indirection error :) | 06:11 | |
brrt | something like it but not the same: 'move it to another phase' | ||
nwc10 | which is often useful, because that phase might be "never" | 06:12 | |
brrt has to ponder that for a bit | |||
nwc10 | don't ponder so hard that you miss your stop | ||
TimToady | speaking of off-by-one | ||
brrt | still have 20 minutes | 06:13 | |
practical suggestion: why not store the args in the buffer and compact them later | 06:14 | ||
(that was only meant as a note-to-self) | |||
nwc10: if I could summarise your talk it'd be 'without mug-throwing the perl community would have muddled through the last 15 years much like php and python and ruby' | 06:17 | ||
nwc10 | yes. instead of muddling through it a different way | 06:18 | |
brrt | ergo it would not have strived towards greatness like perl6 does | ||
nwc10 | I missed mentioning one thing that I'd put the clues in the slides for | ||
the "Cube" project starts in 2007 | |||
why didn't it use/reuse the JavaScript VMs, or the approach taken, or whatever? | 06:19 | ||
brrt | what was that again? | ||
nwc10 | Answer - the JS speed wars didn't start until 2009 | ||
that was the sort-of-Parrot/Pynie/MoarVM | |||
with all the suble problems of Parrot/Pynie and MoarVM :-) | |||
brrt | oh right. with the better vtables | ||
nwc10 | yes, but no threads | 06:20 | |
because refcounting | |||
brrt | oh yes | ||
brrt wonders about TimToady's off-by-one | 06:21 | ||
nwc10 suspsects it's an off-by-one error in his bed, which he's now corrected | |||
TimToady | sounds more like it was an on-by-one error | ||
nwc10 | oh, I'm wrong | 06:22 | |
keeps happening. | |||
brrt takes his time to parse that | |||
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brrt | decommute& | 06:26 | |
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dalek | arVM: 7b6c092 | moritz++ | Configure.pl: Configure: explicit use lib ".". Closes #403. |
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timotimo | any reason we're not moving stuff into a lib/ folder instead? | 15:43 | |
moritz | yes, more effort, larger diffs :-) | 15:45 | |
timotimo | OK | ||
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travis-ci | MoarVM build errored. Moritz Lenz 'Configure: explicit use lib ".". Closes #403.' | 16:29 | |
travis-ci.org/MoarVM/MoarVM/builds/159348434 github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/compare/3...6c0925597b | |||
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timotimo | ^- not actually b0rked build | 16:36 | |
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