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github.com/moarvm/moarvm | IRC logs at colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_logs/moarvm Set by AlexDaniel on 12 June 2018. |
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| brrt | \o | 19:49 | |
| nwc10 | o/ | 19:50 | |
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| lizmat | And another Rakudo Weekly News hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2019/12/09/2019-...-starring/ | 20:10 | |
| brrt | lizmat++ | 20:11 | |
| sena_kun | lizmat++ | 20:20 | |
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| brrt | I have this longish post pending... but I want to share with you my main thesis | 21:50 | |
| Scripting happens when there's two preconditions that are met | |||
| One, a system with an interesting amount of complexity has matured to the point of being encapsulated (e.g., an RDBMS) | 21:52 | ||
| Two, there is greater demand for computational services than can be reasonably met by the typical application languages, and more to the point | |||
| Application languages are almost always unpractical for scripting because they emphasize a model-centric structure that is redundant for scripts (the model might just be the data itself). | 21:54 | ||
| System programming languages are unsuitable since they tend to expose concerns that are relevant to system programmers (because systems tend to be developed at the edge of the 'possible'; this is because systems provide services, and we always want as much service for as little as possible) | 21:55 | ||
| but those concerns are irrelevant for scripts, since scripts will typically leverage systems (i.e. the 'actual work' is done by some library or server) | |||
| the main concern for scripting, instead, is to have as little 'barrier' to interfacing with the systems as possible | 22:00 | ||
| (this is why, e.g. python3's decision to make str() a proper-unicode-type, *and* use that for operating system interfaces, is the wrong answer for a scripting language; the proper type of a string representing an external-resource, is whatever-fits-the-external-resource, for a scripting language, correctness be damned) | 22:02 | ||
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