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Geth doc: 4ac7549c08 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Language/experimental.pod6
Document :collation ain't an experiment no more

De-experementalized in github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/20c41ca5de		 07:42
synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/experimental
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jmerelo Hi, lizmat 08:05
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Geth doc: 314ce72cef | (JJ Merelo)++ | 2 files
Moves pod to correct place, refs #2420
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doc: 1952ca28bc | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Type/Routine.pod6
Moves links and reflows refs #2420
synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/type/Routine
doc: d2a09fe0ee | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Type/Routine/WrapHandle.pod6
Clarifies privacy

Also clarifies example, closes #2420
synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/type/Routine::WrapHandle
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Geth doc: 58853e6d04 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/pragmas.pod6
Avoids duplicate 'use' by rephrasing
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synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/pragmas
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jmerelo releasable6: status 08:15
releasable6 jmerelo, Next release will happen when it's ready. 0 blockers. 492 out of 531 commits logged
jmerelo, Details: gist.github.com/af80f9f385dbdc8227...fe52f023b0
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Geth doc: fe6c917e8a | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/variables.pod6
Document %*ENV values are allomorphic

Propspec: github.com/perl6/roast/commit/9cf499254		 08:33
synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/variables
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Geth ¦ perl6-pod-to-bigpage: tbrowder self-assigned Defn is not handled by this module yet github.com/perl6/perl6-pod-to-bigpage/issues/31 09:57
doc: tbrowder self-assigned Error when building the documentation with: make html github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2424
7bfc6a8978 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 5 files

So remove it from the documentation. If you really want to have your own BUILDALL, you should *really*, **really** know what you're doing (and know what you'll be throwing away in terms of optimizations).
So BUILDALL should be more in a "guts" type of documentation, if any.
Please revert if consensus is that BUILDALL should stay documented and recommended as a way of unfluencing object creation.		 09:58
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AlexDaniel El_Che: ping? :) 11:26
El_Che lo 11:28
AlexDaniel El_Che: colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_lo...10-27#l579 11:29
El_Che AlexDaniel: seems to work here: 11:31
travis-ci.org/perl6/rakudo-pkg-canary
make sure to be logged in with github
AlexDaniel :o
:O 11:32
El_Che mm
the commit looks old, though
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AlexDaniel El_Che: here it only shows appveyor: github.com/perl6/rakudo-pkg-canary...its/master 11:32
El_Che I don't get it, there is no appveyor in master 11:34
ok, triggering a build to see what happens 11:35
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tbrowder___ does anyone know the exact dates for TPC::NA 2019? 11:38
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El_Che AlexDaniel: " There was an error updating your hook: These events are not allowed for this hook: membership " on the travis integration services of github 11:39
mm
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tbrowder___ website (if you can find it: perlconference.us) just say june 11:39
El_Che AlexDaniel: removed the travis integration to add it again 11:40
keep you posted
AlexDaniel: it works now 11:43
AlexDaniel: you can stop the running build if the tar is not the correct one 11:44
travis-ci.org/perl6/rakudo-pkg-can.../447365654
AlexDaniel El_Che: yay! Though I botched the tar for the canary so it'll take a bit of time to regenerate…
El_Che I don't get what the problem was. Github is depreciating the integration in favour of webhooks, but they haven't kill it yet
I just removed what we had, and created a new one according to the new docs 11:45
which is btw way easier
just login to travis with github and enable the repo
no need to enable the integration 11:46
timotimo .o( what do the docs want with one accordion? )
El_Che the webhooks appears automatically in the repo
timotimo: An accordion is always a win :)
"Learn Raku today and receive a free accordeon" 11:47
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timotimo ooh, unfluencing, he? 12:25
that's a funny word
lizmat well... if you look at docs.perl6.org for how to create objects, it was one of the first things you'd see 12:28
it should be more or less the last thing to be seen, if ever
imo :-)
especially since BUILDALL is now generated for each class 12:29
timotimo right 12:35
i should check again whether TWEAK still looks like an "alternative to BUILD" 12:36
rather than "the first thing you should reach for, unless you have very specific needs"
jmerelo lizmat: but are we going to have that documentation? 12:42
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lizmat jmerelo: my initial feeling is: no 12:44
but I'm open to persuasion :-)
and revert :-)
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Voldenet m: 1 (elem) 1..* 13:13
camelia WARNINGS for <tmp>:
Useless use of "(elem)" in expression "1 (elem) 1.." in sink context (line 1)
Voldenet m: say so 1 (elem) 1..*
camelia False
Voldenet Hmm, I guess lazy list can't be a set 13:14
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Geth ecosystem: 835f0fb964 | 0racle++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list
Add Exportable to ecosystem
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lizmat m: say 1 (elem) 1..* 13:17
camelia Cannot (elem) a lazy list
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
lizmat Voldenet: the "so" disabled the failure that that returns
afk for a bit& 13:18
Voldenet right, it makes sense now
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stanrifkin just rakudo 2018.06 on windows 10 installed. got problems with this Linenoise module when trying perl6 interactive 13:43
i searched the web and in a forum they claimed that it is already solved. 13:44
ugexe i think you'll want 2018.09 for linenoise to work 13:47
on windows
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Geth doc: 987f600642 | Coke++ | xt/word-variants.t
Allow more unicode-specific variances.
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AlexDaniel El_Che: no tar? travis-ci.org/perl6/rakudo-pkg-can...5662#L8115 15:21
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Geth doc: 587d1d4ab2 | (Tom Browder)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Pod/Block/Named.pod6
don't use as user examples named blocks with all lower- (or upper-) case names

Per S26, such names are reserved for the language.		 17:20
synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/type/Pod::Block::Named
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timotimo wakelift.de/p/64c6606a-2052-4e86-b...742e5a254/ - I'd love to have a few eyes to go over my latest development report blog post :) 17:49
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Ulti .win 5 18:21
buggable Ulti, Thank you for entering Accidental /win Lottery! The next draw will happen in 3 days, 5 hours, 38 minutes, and 27 seconds
Ulti yay
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Xliff m: my (%hash1, %hash2); for (%hash1, %hash2) -> $hash { say $hash.VAR.name } 18:43
camelia Nil
Nil
Xliff m: my (%hash1, %hash2); for (%hash1, %hash2) -> $hash { say $hash.VAR.^name }
camelia Scalar
Scalar
Xliff Is there any way to get that to say %hash1 %hash2?
moritz try .name, not .^name 18:44
Xliff That was the first try. They both came out as "Nil"
AlexDaniel m: my (%hash1, %hash2); for (%hash1, %hash2) -> $hash { say $hash.name }
camelia %hash1
%hash2
Xliff LOL!
AlexDaniel++ 18:45
AlexDaniel well, it's moritz++ :)
Xliff m: my (%hash1, %hash2); for (%hash1, %hash2) -> $hash { say $hash.name.substr(1) }
camelia hash1
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Geth whateverable: e0c8c53246 | MasterDuke17++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | lib/Whateverable/Builds.pm6
Make sure to pick up 2015.12 in 6.c shortcut
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AlexDaniel MasterDuke: I'd love a test for that also, because it used to work and then regressed… 19:04
6c: say ‘2015.12 tag found’ if $*PERL6.compiler.version ~~ v2015.12 19:05
committable6 AlexDaniel, gist.github.com/cfcd5bf4c6eaf7e7e5...6964b44c78
AlexDaniel 6c: say ‘2015.12 tag found’ if $*PERL.compiler.version ~~ v2015.12 19:06
committable6 AlexDaniel, ¦6c (33 commits): «»
AlexDaniel 6c: say ‘2015.12 tag found’ if $*PERL.compiler.version == v2015.12
committable6 AlexDaniel, gist.github.com/08fd04f1ef02e90a13...06dcc8a8cf 19:07
AlexDaniel arrrrrrr
6c: say ‘2015.12 tag found’ if $*PERL.compiler.version eq v2015.12
committable6 AlexDaniel, ¦6c (33 commits): «»
AlexDaniel c: 2015.12,2016.05 say ‘2015.12 tag found’ if $*PERL.compiler.version eq v2015.12
committable6 AlexDaniel, ¦2015.12: «2015.12 tag found␤» ¦2016.05: «»
AlexDaniel MasterDuke: there :)
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buggable New CPAN upload: Font-FreeType-0.1.0.tar.gz by WARRINGD modules.perl6.org/dist/Font::FreeTy...n:WARRINGD 20:22
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Zoffix What are "value-less" `next`/`last` etc? Are there value-full forms or are these test descriptions simply wrong? github.com/perl6/roast/blob/master...#L468-L480 20:59
AlexDaniel maybe it's about labels? 21:00
Zoffix That would imply those return some sort of value
Zoffix s/value/label/ in descs 21:05
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AlexDaniel Zoffix: could it be about `leave`? I'm not sure how `leave` is supposed to work in a loop, but that's the closest that I can recall 21:16
ah, label-less 21:17
ok
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AlexDaniel u: 🛫🛬 22:30
unicodable6 AlexDaniel, U+1F6EB AIRPLANE DEPARTURE [So] (🛫)
AlexDaniel, U+1F6EC AIRPLANE ARRIVING [So] (🛬)
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timotimo m: say "🛫".succ 22:32
camelia 🛫
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SmokeMachine Does anyone here knows any job position outside Brazil? I don’t want to live in a country where Jair Bolsonaro is the president... 22:44
timotimo i feel for you 22:52
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El_Che SmokeMachine: it's shocking 22:58
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SmokeMachine El_Che: :( 23:49

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