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| Xliff | timotimo: MVM_JIT_DISABLE didn't do anything. I am still getting the segfault, and this one I can't trace back to a location. | 00:47 | |
| timotimo | so in "bt" you don't see any frames that have a tc? | 00:48 | |
| oh, perhaps you've got a moarvm with --debug=0 | |||
| i'm not sure if it would have enough info left to figure out where tc lives | 00:49 | ||
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| Xliff | timotimo: I rakudobrew my stuff. Is there a way to get one with a greater debug? | 00:57 | |
| timotimo | rakudobrew has a switch that lets you give an option to moar's configure.pl | ||
| that's where --debug=3 would go | |||
| if you need to dig around in the local variables and such, you'll get a whole lot of "value optimized out" if your --optimize isn't =0 | |||
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| Xliff | Dynamic variables are a PITA. | 01:20 | |
| buggable | New CPAN upload: Algorithm-AhoCorasick-0.0.11.tar.gz by TITSUKI modules.perl6.org/dist/Algorithm::A...an:TITSUKI | 01:52 | |
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| [Coke] | tbrowder___: I believe that has already been reported. Not sure if someone has taken the ticket. | 02:48 | |
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| Geth | doc: 20d6a3c5c0 | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Test.pod6 Remove rogue space in `subtest` |
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| synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/type/Test | ||
| Geth | doc: 80fbb15ef3 | Coke++ | doc/Language/create-cli.pod6 whitespace |
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| doc: 418f54fd14 | Coke++ | doc/Language/create-cli.pod6 standardize word |
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| synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/language/create-cli | ||
| doc: bbe693ca30 | Coke++ | doc/Language/create-cli.pod6 Don't over-process the sub when compiling |
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| buggable | New CPAN upload: App-Perl6LangServer-0.0.1.tar.gz by AZAWAWI cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/A/AZ/...0.1.tar.gz | 07:42 | |
| El_Che | ^---- a milestone | 07:43 | |
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| El_Che | weekly: New CPAN upload: App-Perl6LangServer-0.0.1.tar.gz by AZAWAWI | 08:10 | |
| notable6 | El_Che, Noted! | ||
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| nwellnhof | p6: $_='###/';say TR/\#/x/ | 08:46 | |
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Please backslash # for literal char or put whitespace in front for comment at <tmp>:1 ------> 3$_='###/';say TR/\#7⏏5/x/ |
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| nwellnhof | But I did backslash # | 08:47 | |
| Anyway, are comments in tr search lists even allowed? | |||
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| jmerelo | nwellnhof: why not? They should | 08:51 | |
| nwellnhof: and it's right, it's backslashed | 08:52 | ||
| p6: $_='###/';say TR/ \# /x/ | |||
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Please backslash # for literal char or put whitespace in front for comment at <tmp>:1 ------> 3$_='###/';say TR/ \#7⏏5 /x/ |
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| jmerelo | p6: $_='###/';say tr/ \# /x/ | ||
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Please backslash # for literal char or put whitespace in front for comment at <tmp>:1 ------> 3$_='###/';say tr/ \#7⏏5 /x/ |
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| jmerelo | p6: $_='\\\/';say tr/ \ /x/ | 08:53 | |
| camelia | StrDistance.new(before => "\\\\/", after => "\\\\/") | ||
| jmerelo | nwellnhof: the problem with TR is that it takes every character individually | 08:54 | |
| p6: $_='###/';say TR/ '#' /x/ | |||
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Please backslash # for literal char or put whitespace in front for comment at <tmp>:1 ------> 3$_='###/';say TR/ '#7⏏5' /x/ |
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| jmerelo | p6: $_='###/';say TR/ \\# /x/ | 08:56 | |
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Please backslash # for literal char or put whitespace in front for comment at <tmp>:1 ------> 3$_='###/';say TR/ \\#7⏏5 /x/ |
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| jmerelo | p6: my $hash = Q'#'; $_='###/';say TR/ $hash /x/ | 08:57 | |
| camelia | ###/ | ||
| jmerelo | p6: my $hash = Q'#'; $_='###/';say TR/ $hash /x/; say $hash | ||
| camelia | ###/ # |
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| jmerelo | p6: say "###/".trans(<#> => <x>) | 08:59 | |
| camelia | xxx/ | ||
| jmerelo | nwellnhof: so there you go | ||
| nwellnhof | Doesn't help for code golf :) | 09:00 | |
| p6:$_='###/';say TR/\x23/x/ | |||
| evalable6 | xxx/ | ||
| jmerelo | nwellnhof: that is better allright | ||
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| nwellnhof | This still looks like a bug. Rakudo *always* complains about # in search or replacement lists. | 09:01 | |
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| nwellnhof | I just filed github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/2365 | 09:07 | |
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| nwellnhof | Oh, this was already reported: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/2118 | 09:12 | |
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| Geth | doc: 86dca71606 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/subscripts.pod6 Eliminates 'subscript adverb' category refs #1410 |
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| doc: bb7d63e9c1 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/subscripts.pod6 Indexes flattening semicolon Also adds examples. Closes #2379. |
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| synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/language/subscripts | ||
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| Geth | doc: 6a34efc47f | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/subscripts.pod6 Fixes POD error and reflows |
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| synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/language/subscripts | ||
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| ufobat___ | what happens if i do $foo ~~ sub { say @_ }, Assuming $foo is Str:D | 11:10 | |
| Ah Accepts of Code is smart :-) does exactly the right thing | 11:12 | ||
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| Geth | doc: cb7233b0f2 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | doc/Language/create-cli.pod6 Tweaks in headers and levels |
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| synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/language/create-cli | ||
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| Geth | doc: 2f97dd41f1 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | doc/Language/create-cli.pod6 X<>'s that were not supposed to show |
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| synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/language/create-cli | ||
| Xliff | m: sub a ($a, $b) { say "$a/$b" }; my @a(3, 4); a(@a.List) | 11:31 | |
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| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Unexpected closing bracket at <tmp>:1 ------> 3b a ($a, $b) { say "$a/$b" }; my @a=3, 47⏏5); a(@a.List) |
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| camelia | Too few positionals passed; expected 2 arguments but got 1 in sub a at <tmp> line 1 in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| Xliff | m: sub a ($a, $b) { say "$a/$b" }; my @a=(3, 4); a(@a.Seq) | ||
| camelia | Too few positionals passed; expected 2 arguments but got 1 in sub a at <tmp> line 1 in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| Xliff | m: sub a ($a, $b) { say "$a/$b" }; my @a=(3, 4); a(|@a) | ||
| camelia | 3/4 | ||
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| Xliff | .tell jnthn Thanks for the help with Supplies. I have a final signal handler pattern set up. You can see that, here: | 11:37 | |
| yoleaux | Xliff: I'll pass your message to jnthn. | ||
| Geth | doc: 085dc971b4 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | doc/Language/create-cli.pod6 Document policy wrt to MAIN_HELPER |
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| synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/language/create-cli | ||
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| lizmat | something wrong with Travis on doc: 501 Protocol scheme 'https' is only supported if IO::Socket::SSL is installed <URL:www.w3.org/> | 11:51 | |
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| Geth | doc: 39ef5bb822 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | doc/Language/functions.pod6 Remove old MAIN documentation from functions And replace it by a stub referring to the new CLI page |
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| synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/language/functions | ||
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| Xliff | Is there a module that will determine the MIME type of an IO::Path or open file? | 15:03 | |
| Oh, and modules.perl6.org is returning an error on search | 15:04 | ||
| MasterDuke | Xliff: just worked for me, found modules.perl6.org/dist/File::LibMa...rth.org%3E | 15:06 | |
| Xliff | \o/ | ||
| My first PR for p6-GtkPlus! 8-D | 15:07 | ||
| MasterDuke: Yep. Thanks. Weird, tho. | |||
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| buggable | New CPAN upload: App-Perl6LangServer-0.0.2.tar.gz by AZAWAWI modules.perl6.org/dist/App::Perl6La...an:AZAWAWI | 15:33 | |
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| Geth | doc: 083f7c15cd | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Language/glossary.pod6 Add decont to glossary |
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| synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/language/glossary | ||
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| Geth | doc: 41d2504847 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 3 files Reword "in future language versions" - We *are* deprecating some features on language level in 6.d, even if the Rakudo implementation currently can't issue per-language-version deprecation warnings on methods - Just because an implementation doesn't short-circuit Junctions yet, doesn't mean that's defined behaviour on language level |
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| doc: bab87c0c8b | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Language/glossary.pod6 Fix formatting/Pod code |
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| synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/language/glossary | ||
| Geth | doc: 1745a13c12 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Language/glossary.pod6 dalek not longer daleks |
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| Xliff | How would you pass type objects to a sub? | 16:14 | |
| my sub c ($a) { say $a.^name }; class A {}; c(A); | 16:15 | ||
| evalable6 | A | ||
| geekosaur | a type object is a value like any other | 16:16 | |
| Xliff | my use NativeCall; sub c ($cast-to, $a) { nativecast($cast-to, $a); }; class A {}; class B {}; say c(A, B.new).^name; | 16:17 | |
| m: \my use NativeCall; sub c ($cast-to, $a) { nativecast($cast-to, $a); }; class A {}; class B {}; say c(A, B.new).^name; | |||
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Type 'use' is not declared at <tmp>:1 ------> 3\my use7⏏5 NativeCall; sub c ($cast-to, $a) { nati Malformed my at <tmp>:1 ------> 3\my7⏏5 use NativeCall; sub c ($cast-to, $a) { |
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| Xliff | m: my use NativeCall; sub c ($cast-to, $a) { nativecast($cast-to, $a); }; class A {}; class B {}; say c(A, B.new).^name; | ||
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Type 'use' is not declared at <tmp>:1 ------> 3my use7⏏5 NativeCall; sub c ($cast-to, $a) { nati Malformed my at <tmp>:1 ------> 3my7⏏5 use NativeCall; sub c ($cast-to, $a) { |
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| Xliff | m: use NativeCall; sub c ($cast-to, $a) { nativecast($cast-to, $a); }; class A {}; class B {}; say c(A, B.new).^name; | ||
| camelia | Native call expected return type with CPointer, CStruct, CArray, or VMArray representation, but got a P6opaque (B) in sub nativecast at /home/camelia/rakudo-m-inst-1/share/perl6/sources/24DD121B5B4774C04A7084827BFAD92199756E03 (NativeCall) line 68… |
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| Xliff | Oops. :/ | ||
| timotimo | yeah, missing "is repr" | 16:18 | |
| Xliff | Yeah, well I am trying to wrap nativecast so callers won't need to "use NativeCall" to get it. | ||
| timotimo | no need to wrap it, you can just re-export it :) | ||
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| Geth | doc: 5e36e9da70 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Type/Promise.pod6 Make it easier to see defaults for Promise.keep/cause |
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| Geth | doc: 13b8134711 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Type/Promise.pod6 Improve Promise:U.kept/broken - Fix incorrect default value listed for .broken - Make it easier to see .kept's default value |
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| SmokeMachine | m: role R { method r {...} }; class C does R { method r {} }; class C2 does R { has R $.a handles <r> is required }; say C2.new: :a(C.new) # should it die? Isn’t `r` implemented on `C2`?! | 19:15 | |
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Method 'r' must be implemented by C2 because it is required by roles: R. at <tmp>:1 |
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| Guest97756 | If you aren't sure about a Unix command, you can use apropos or man -k to look up possibly related terms. | 20:00 | |
| Is there something equivalent for p6doc? | |||
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| El_Che | Guest97756: I don't think so, but maybe some people here will know | 20:04 | |
| Zoffix | Guest97756: not aware of something like that. You could file an Issue requesting such a feature: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/new (be sure to mention you're talking about p6doc utility). I think in 2019 there will be some decent work done with searchability on docs site/p6doc utility | 20:05 | |
| yoleaux | 19:27Z <samcv> Zoffix: I think that is right. all our other tests are that way where we print the + | ||
| 19:32Z <samcv> Zoffix: ok this is why: sprintf('%b', -1) #> 1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 | |||
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| Guest97756 | El_Che I figured if the knowledge is anywhere, it's here' | 20:05 | |
| Zoffix | Thanks. | ||
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| masak | oh hai, #perl6 | 20:08 | |
| Guest97756 | "Learning Perl 6" has just hit the local libraries, so I'm looking through it to see what questions it might provoke. That was #1. :-)* | ||
| masak | so, I've started re-reading the Apocalypses | ||
| reading them, I'm filled with a flood of emotions I felt when I first got excited about Perl 6 | 20:09 | ||
| there's a sense in those documents that not only is everything going to be *improved*, but everything is going to be *extensible* in sane ways | |||
| Geth | doc: uzluisf++ created pull request #2381: Add some information to the input section |
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| masak | macros and slangs (at least seen with the clarity of hindsight) play a large part of that sane extensibility, and they're mentioned all over the Apocalypses | 20:10 | |
| Geth | doc: 920e243a32 | (Luis F. Uceta)++ | doc/Language/py-nutshell.pod6 Add some information to the input section Change variable name: entered -> user_input Add some information to the section and reflow text. |
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| doc: 153a33c0bf | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/py-nutshell.pod6 Merge pull request #2381 from uzluisf/master Add some information to the input section |
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| Zoffix currently doesn't see how slangs could become non-experimental considering you have to mutate arguably internal parts of the compiler ATM | 20:12 | ||
| Guest97756: FWIW, we also have "User Experience" repo: github.com/perl6/user-experience You could catalogue the provoked questions in an Issue there :) | 20:13 | ||
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| Geth | user-experience: 1a5f5f964a | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | Getting-Perl6/README.md Gemove getperl6.com website idea It was poo-pooed and domain already expired |
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| timotimo | did someone park getperl6.com? | ||
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| El_Che | timotimo: it looks unregistered | 20:46 | |
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| masak | Zoffix: that's a statement of what you'd have to do now. so I don't think I'm in disagreement in any way. | 22:12 | |
| Zoffix: in general, providing macros in a language also means you have to be *painfully* public about your compiler internals. | 22:13 | ||
| 'night, #perl6 | |||
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| Geth | doc: uzluisf++ created pull request #2382: Add minor fixes, rephrase sentences and reflow text |
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