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weekly Rakudo status meetings with phase transitions: Tue 19:00 UTC | IR clogs at irclog.perlgeek.de/phasers/today Set by moderator on 12 April 2011. |
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| moritz | pre-report: thought about and discussed new error spec | 16:42 | |
| conclusion: error classification will be made by mixing roles into... things (either other roles or classes) | 16:43 | ||
| EOR | |||
| sorear | all I did this week was to make niecza properly parse m:g// and friends | 16:48 | |
| mberends++ and pmurias++ have done much more | 16:49 | ||
| mberends | you're too kind | ||
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| sorear | blockers: $distracted | 16:53 | |
| tadzik | that must be a global variable | 16:55 | |
| jnthn | So we'll all potentially become less distracted at the same time? :) | 16:58 | |
| tadzik | so THAT's what coding together is for | 16:59 | |
| $distraction doesn't attack the herds | |||
| sorear | well, except when there's more than one herd | 17:12 | |
| tadzik | oh yeah | ||
| then the distraction is distributed | |||
| sorear | I am currently distracted from #perl6 into a different herd | 17:13 | |
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| Util | Pre-report: Still distracted by hardware; will be late for #phasers. EOR | 18:14 | |
| pmichaud | report: There's a good chance I'll have tuits over the next couple of days; if there are any specific things I should hack on, let me know. (Esp. w/nqp) | 18:40 | |
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| masak | o/ | 19:01 | |
| mberends | o/ | ||
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| jnthn | o/ | 19:01 | |
| isBEKaml | o/ | 19:02 | |
| moritz | /o | ||
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| tadzik | o^ | 19:03 | |
| jnthn | aww | ||
| masak hugs tadzik | |||
| moritz backlos | 19:04 | ||
| moritz finishes backlogging | |||
| jnthn sees preports by sorear++ and moritz++ | |||
| masak | my report: held a class on Friday. not entirely Perl 6-related, but could be in the future. attendance far beyond expectations. in the weekend, been working on a new, better Indexing::Multidim. progress is very promising. still haven't forgotten about the Web.pm grant. will act on it. eor. | ||
| jnthn | here's mine | 19:05 | |
| Over the last week... | |||
| * More little bits of progress with NQP with regard to package handling | |||
| * Started getting some more 6model documentation done; will get it up somewhere soon | |||
| Good news: my tuit situation is improving! Will get to have whole days for Perl 6 again \\o/ | |||
| Major goals: | |||
| * Finish the package refactor | |||
| * Complete the compile time meta-object branch | |||
| * Do the plumbing to have natively typed attributes in NQP | |||
| * Do the plumbing to have the nqp::foo abstractions | |||
| * Start to bring all this goodness to rakudo/nom | |||
| I expect to make a serious dent in this work over the coming week. | |||
| EOR | |||
| tadzik | what's a "serious dent"? | 19:06 | |
| jnthn | | <- undented | ||
| ( <- slightly dented | |||
| < <- seriously dented | |||
| masak | :) | ||
| isBEKaml | deflate the ego of "unfinished taskers" | ||
| tadzik | oic :) | ||
| jnthn | tadzik: I mean, get a significant amount of stuff done. | 19:07 | |
| isBEKaml | so unfinished tasks get a "reality check" themselves! | ||
| tadzik suddenly became more afraid of dentists | |||
| masak | tadzik: dentists take dents out, they don't put serious ones in :P | 19:08 | |
| masak gets more serious | |||
| isBEKaml | dentists fill dents. | ||
| :P | |||
| tadzik | I accidentally incremented $distraction | 19:09 | |
| jnthn | Anyone else have a report? :) | ||
| tadzik | . o O ( acciDENTally ). Damnit! | ||
| masak .oO( incre-dent ) | |||
| tadzik | yeah, I have one | ||
| so, I merged the new ecosystem into the old one, moved modules.perl6.org to the new one, introduced a new badge for the panda-and-the-newest-specs compatibility | 19:10 | ||
| also wrote an announcement for perl6-users and blag that too, so that mberends can read it too :) | 19:11 | ||
| mberends | :) | 19:12 | |
| masak | tadzik++ | ||
| mberends | aye, tadzik++ | ||
| jnthn | tadzik++ # ecosystem hacking | ||
| tadzik | I think I should clear out to which file and how should the modules be added, to avoid confusion | ||
| isBEKaml | (everyone)++ | ||
| tadzik | hmm. I also introduced flussence++'s Str.indent into Rakudo core, and made him add the spectests for that. It passes, so we have something to show off in hte Changelog :) | 19:13 | |
| masak | \\o/ | ||
| and phew! | |||
| flussence++ | 19:14 | ||
| jnthn | Indeed | ||
| tadzik | possible plans: thinkabout wrapping Select PMC so we can have some sort of async IO in Rakudo | ||
| blockers: mips assembly, Java, stupid exams and labolatories, and this week's star: the b0rked arm! | 19:15 | ||
| that'd be it methinks | |||
| EOR | |||
| mberends | ++tadzik++ | 19:16 | |
| tadzik: I haz some draft ideas about a select() implementation to feed into your PMC design, I'll get them to you later. | 19:17 | ||
| tadzik | cool, that'd be valuable, for I don't really have an idea of what do I want to do :) | 19:18 | |
| mberends++ | |||
| sorear | btw, I'm here today | ||
| if anyone wants to talk .. | 19:19 | ||
| masak | sorear: anything to report? | ||
| sorear | masak: No, I've been distracted | 19:20 | |
| masak | ok. | ||
| and not by dents, I suppose. | 19:21 | ||
| mberends | The results of the p6cc on Niecza are in: 21 scripts, 19 crashes, 2 runs with wrong results. Details to follow in a blog post. | 19:22 | |
| tadzik | where does your blog live? | ||
| masak | mberends: oh wow! mberends++! | 19:23 | |
| I presume "crashes" are not as bad as it sounds. | 19:24 | ||
| mberends | somewhere in blogs.perl.org, not sure exactly, will see after it's posted. | ||
| masak | just that Niecza isn't there yet. | ||
| but the wrong results sound highly interesting. | |||
| mberends | about half the crashes are Parse errors, meaning viv gave up. | ||
| masak | interesting. | ||
| mberends | the other half are various CLR exceptions | 19:25 | |
| masak really looks forward to the blog post | |||
| mberends | so that's my .eor | 19:26 | |
| moritz too | 19:27 | ||
| mberends | I hope the p6cc entries can be patched (by the original contestants or others) to run on Niecza. | ||
| masak | mberends: maybe make it a collaborative effort somewhere? | 19:28 | |
| mberends | hmm, nice idea. | ||
| masak | mberends: I'd probably want to chip in. not sure I'd like to do all the work myself, but a part of it, sure. | ||
| mberends | :) | ||
| moritz | mberends: throw them all into perl6-examples | ||
| masak | something like that. | ||
| mberends | yes, ok | 19:29 | |
| masak | and discussion could take place in the Niecza github issue queue, or on #perl6 :) | ||
| sorear | mberends: nitpick: niecza doesn't use viv anymore | 19:30 | |
| niecza has its own instance of STD | |||
| github issue queue is probably better | 19:31 | ||
| tadzik | who's the release manager this month? Rakudo I mean | ||
| mberends | sorear: thanks, I should have remembered that | 19:32 | |
| jnthn | sorry, back, family phone call... | 19:41 | |
| moritz | tadzik: PerlJam++ does the release | 19:42 | |
| jnthn | pmichaud: If you want to work on something in NQP, the nqp::foo abstraction layer - or working out how to factor it - is a nice, isolated piece that needs doing. | 19:43 | |
| PerlJam | blah. Did I miss #phasers? | 20:02 | |
| tadzik | seems so | 20:03 | |
| PerlJam | obiwan error on my hours today. | ||
| tadzik | PerlJam: could you make sure flussence is listed as one of the contributors to the thursday's release? | ||
| obiwan error? | |||
| isBEKaml | star wars. :) | ||
| obi wan kenobi | |||
| PerlJam | www.catb.org/jargon/html/O/obi-wan-error.html | ||
| tadzik: aye. | 20:04 | ||
| tadzik | oh, I know starwars, I just didn't know the error | 20:05 | |
| tadzik sees no connection | 20:06 | ||
| masak | tadzik: sound similarity. | ||
| PerlJam | off-by-one is phonetically similar to obiwan | ||
| masak | "off-by-one" -- "obi-wan" | ||
| I agree it's a bit of a weak connection. | |||
| PerlJam | it's funny that the jargon file entry doesn't have a link to fence post errors. | 20:07 | |
| oh, you have to pass through "off-by-one-error" to get there | |||
| aaaaannnnnd I've got a meeting to attend. | 20:09 | ||
| PerlJam wanders off | |||
| TimToady | may the farce be with you | 20:11 | |
| isBEKaml | May the fjords be with you! | 20:12 | |
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