weekly Rakudo status meetings with phase transitions: Tue 19:00 UTC | IR clogs at irclog.perlgeek.de/phasers/today
Set by moderator on 12 April 2011.
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moritz pre-report: thought about and discussed new error spec 16:42
conclusion: error classification will be made by mixing roles into... things (either other roles or classes) 16:43
EOR
sorear all I did this week was to make niecza properly parse m:g// and friends 16:48
mberends++ and pmurias++ have done much more 16:49
mberends you're too kind
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sorear blockers: $distracted 16:53
tadzik that must be a global variable 16:55
jnthn So we'll all potentially become less distracted at the same time? :) 16:58
tadzik so THAT's what coding together is for 16:59
$distraction doesn't attack the herds
sorear well, except when there's more than one herd 17:12
tadzik oh yeah
then the distraction is distributed
sorear I am currently distracted from #perl6 into a different herd 17:13
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Util Pre-report: Still distracted by hardware; will be late for #phasers. EOR 18:14
pmichaud report: There's a good chance I'll have tuits over the next couple of days; if there are any specific things I should hack on, let me know. (Esp. w/nqp) 18:40
afk
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masak o/ 19:01
mberends o/
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jnthn o/ 19:01
isBEKaml o/ 19:02
moritz /o
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tadzik o^ 19:03
jnthn aww
masak hugs tadzik
moritz backlos 19:04
moritz finishes backlogging
jnthn sees preports by sorear++ and moritz++
masak my report: held a class on Friday. not entirely Perl 6-related, but could be in the future. attendance far beyond expectations. in the weekend, been working on a new, better Indexing::Multidim. progress is very promising. still haven't forgotten about the Web.pm grant. will act on it. eor.
jnthn here's mine 19:05
Over the last week...
* More little bits of progress with NQP with regard to package handling
* Started getting some more 6model documentation done; will get it up somewhere soon
Good news: my tuit situation is improving! Will get to have whole days for Perl 6 again \\o/
Major goals:
* Finish the package refactor
* Complete the compile time meta-object branch
* Do the plumbing to have natively typed attributes in NQP
* Do the plumbing to have the nqp::foo abstractions
* Start to bring all this goodness to rakudo/nom
I expect to make a serious dent in this work over the coming week.
EOR
tadzik what's a "serious dent"? 19:06
jnthn | <- undented
( <- slightly dented
< <- seriously dented
masak :)
isBEKaml deflate the ego of "unfinished taskers"
tadzik oic :)
jnthn tadzik: I mean, get a significant amount of stuff done. 19:07
isBEKaml so unfinished tasks get a "reality check" themselves!
tadzik suddenly became more afraid of dentists
masak tadzik: dentists take dents out, they don't put serious ones in :P 19:08
masak gets more serious
isBEKaml dentists fill dents.
:P
tadzik I accidentally incremented $distraction 19:09
jnthn Anyone else have a report? :)
tadzik . o O ( acciDENTally ). Damnit!
masak .oO( incre-dent )
tadzik yeah, I have one
so, I merged the new ecosystem into the old one, moved modules.perl6.org to the new one, introduced a new badge for the panda-and-the-newest-specs compatibility 19:10
also wrote an announcement for perl6-users and blag that too, so that mberends can read it too :) 19:11
mberends :) 19:12
masak tadzik++
mberends aye, tadzik++
jnthn tadzik++ # ecosystem hacking
tadzik I think I should clear out to which file and how should the modules be added, to avoid confusion
isBEKaml (everyone)++
tadzik hmm. I also introduced flussence++'s Str.indent into Rakudo core, and made him add the spectests for that. It passes, so we have something to show off in hte Changelog :) 19:13
masak \\o/
and phew!
flussence++ 19:14
jnthn Indeed
tadzik possible plans: thinkabout wrapping Select PMC so we can have some sort of async IO in Rakudo
blockers: mips assembly, Java, stupid exams and labolatories, and this week's star: the b0rked arm! 19:15
that'd be it methinks
EOR
mberends ++tadzik++ 19:16
tadzik: I haz some draft ideas about a select() implementation to feed into your PMC design, I'll get them to you later. 19:17
tadzik cool, that'd be valuable, for I don't really have an idea of what do I want to do :) 19:18
mberends++
sorear btw, I'm here today
if anyone wants to talk .. 19:19
masak sorear: anything to report?
sorear masak: No, I've been distracted 19:20
masak ok.
and not by dents, I suppose. 19:21
mberends The results of the p6cc on Niecza are in: 21 scripts, 19 crashes, 2 runs with wrong results. Details to follow in a blog post. 19:22
tadzik where does your blog live?
masak mberends: oh wow! mberends++! 19:23
I presume "crashes" are not as bad as it sounds. 19:24
mberends somewhere in blogs.perl.org, not sure exactly, will see after it's posted.
masak just that Niecza isn't there yet.
but the wrong results sound highly interesting.
mberends about half the crashes are Parse errors, meaning viv gave up.
masak interesting.
mberends the other half are various CLR exceptions 19:25
masak really looks forward to the blog post
mberends so that's my .eor 19:26
moritz too 19:27
mberends I hope the p6cc entries can be patched (by the original contestants or others) to run on Niecza.
masak mberends: maybe make it a collaborative effort somewhere? 19:28
mberends hmm, nice idea.
masak mberends: I'd probably want to chip in. not sure I'd like to do all the work myself, but a part of it, sure.
mberends :)
moritz mberends: throw them all into perl6-examples
masak something like that.
mberends yes, ok 19:29
masak and discussion could take place in the Niecza github issue queue, or on #perl6 :)
sorear mberends: nitpick: niecza doesn't use viv anymore 19:30
niecza has its own instance of STD
github issue queue is probably better 19:31
tadzik who's the release manager this month? Rakudo I mean
mberends sorear: thanks, I should have remembered that 19:32
jnthn sorry, back, family phone call... 19:41
moritz tadzik: PerlJam++ does the release 19:42
jnthn pmichaud: If you want to work on something in NQP, the nqp::foo abstraction layer - or working out how to factor it - is a nice, isolated piece that needs doing. 19:43
PerlJam blah. Did I miss #phasers? 20:02
tadzik seems so 20:03
PerlJam obiwan error on my hours today.
tadzik PerlJam: could you make sure flussence is listed as one of the contributors to the thursday's release?
obiwan error?
isBEKaml star wars. :)
obi wan kenobi
PerlJam www.catb.org/jargon/html/O/obi-wan-error.html
tadzik: aye. 20:04
tadzik oh, I know starwars, I just didn't know the error 20:05
tadzik sees no connection 20:06
masak tadzik: sound similarity.
PerlJam off-by-one is phonetically similar to obiwan
masak "off-by-one" -- "obi-wan"
I agree it's a bit of a weak connection.
PerlJam it's funny that the jargon file entry doesn't have a link to fence post errors. 20:07
oh, you have to pass through "off-by-one-error" to get there
aaaaannnnnd I've got a meeting to attend. 20:09
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TimToady may the farce be with you 20:11
isBEKaml May the fjords be with you! 20:12
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