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disbot <antononcube> Well, the other, regression part of "stargazer" is handled by "Math::Fitting", to a point. It does not produce fitting "p-value tables", and that is low in my priority list. 10:57
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icovnik hello, I have a question about raku module usage 12:16
I installed Template6 with zef and now I want to change that module 12:17
disbot <librasteve> sure - what's your question
<librasteve> hi!
<librasteve> change? how?
icovnik I found it installed in a directory containing rakudo
I changed it - but it didn't run my changes 12:18
I suspect the module is precompiled or cached somewhere
disbot <librasteve> zef uninstall Template6 / zef install Template6 12:19
icovnik So my question is: how to remove that installed module from cache, OR how to cache it with my modifications OR how to install it locally and use that instead of "system-wide" module
disbot <librasteve> find the .precomp subdirectory and delete it 12:20
<librasteve> rakubrew is great for having multiple (local) environements 12:21
<librasteve> rakubrew.org 12:22
<librasteve> otherwise you can tell zef where to put your modules (check out the readme in raku.land) 12:23
icovnik OK, I will try 12:26
Is there some mechanism like PERL5LIB in raku?
and/or setting current path where to find modules inside raku script? 12:27
disbot <librasteve> i often work on module code, when you are in the module root dir, you can run raku -I. script (where the script has use Module;) or specify the include path instead of the .
<librasteve> oh yeah there''s an ENV for that too 12:28
<librasteve> docs.raku.org/programs/03-environm...le_loading 12:29
<librasteve> RAKULIB
icovnik I found .raku/precomp directory and also /path/to/raku/share/perl6/site/precom - which to delete? 12:30
the .../raku/.../site/precomp seems to be the correct one
but what does the ~/.raku directory do?
disbot <antononcube> @icovnik I assume you know what you doing Raku programming wise. I would suggest the following: (1) Uninstall "Template6" with zef uninstall Template6. (2) Find the code base of "Template6" and Git-clone it. (3) Program your changes. (4) Install the updated package with zef install . --force-install executed in the directory of the Git-clone of "Template6".
<librasteve> @antononcube - yeah that's what I do (explained better) 12:31
<librasteve> ++
<librasteve> probably that's the dir where your raku is installed ;-) 12:32
icovnik @antononcube: OK, understand
but I really don't know what I am doing Raku-programming-wise :)
disbot <librasteve> yeah probably not good to mess with the precomps (since that is automated) - the precomps are hashed so that when you make a source change locally (as Aoton says) the change and all the deps are recompiled automatically 12:33
<antononcube> Hmm.. then even more so, use a Git clone. 12:34
icovnik librasteve: well my raku is downloaded as binary tar.gz, extracted in place - and that's it. I set PATH to raku binaries and use it like that. The directory got set somehow automatically, maybe by zef?
disbot <librasteve> sorry I am not sure how that works exactly... 12:35
icovnik no problem 12:36
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icovnik I will try the git-clone version 12:36
this is only a minor problem, what I want to do is change Template6 a bit (I came from Perl+Template Toolkig) to be more like I expect it to be 12:37
disbot <librasteve> good luck! 12:38
icovnik thanks
disbot <librasteve> yeah TT is a good thing!
icovnik true, I use it all the time 12:39
well one more question
how to coerce (is that the right name for this?) a parameter for new object? 12:40
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disbot <librasteve> can you share some code? 12:41
<antononcube> Filed an issue: github.com/raku-community-modules/.../issues/33
<librasteve> please
icovnik I have a class: class Node { has IO::Path $.path; method process {...} };
I use it in script and pass the path to it from command line as an argument
disbot <librasteve> so Node.new( path => 'file'.IO) should work 12:42
icovnik and if I pass it a directory, it gets "/" on the end of the arg
yes, that works
but what I want - each time I create new Node object, I want it to remove trailing slash 12:43
I managed to do it inside method new (IO::Path $path) {...}
but it doesn't look... right to me 12:44
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icovnik I'd like something like "coerce" option in Perl's Moo 12:45
disbot <antononcube> @icovnik It is better if you forget Perl. 12:46
<antononcube> ... when working with Raku.
icovnik @antononcube that would be quite hard after 20 years of Perl and 3 days of Raku :)
disbot <antononcube> Raku and Perl are separated by common ideas and cultural baggage. 12:47
<librasteve> class MyNode { has $.file; has $.dir; method new { Node.new( $!dir.subst( //$/, '') ... maybe (dunno) 12:48
crnlskn feels vaguely like an XY problem to me; why is important that the IO attribute itself does not contain the trailing slash? 12:49
disbot <antononcube> @icovnik Ok. At least read docs.raku.org/language/5to6-nutshell , but I am not sure it covers OOP. 12:50
<antononcube> Mm... not just the "nutshell" guide. Here are all of them: docs.raku.org/language/5to6-overview 12:51
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disbot <antononcube> @librasteve Do you use TT (Template Toolkit) ? 12:54
<librasteve> used to back in the day - I just like the way the syntax flows - I have done a bit of crotmp recently (which is a lovely new syntax from jnthn) that feels very perl/raku natural 12:59
<librasteve> of course, at heart I am allergic to templates and like to write Air::Functional html 13:00
<librasteve> harcstack.org/ shows that a bit
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icovnik sorry, real life attacked me right now 13:27
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icovnik the trailing slash is important (I think) because I use it next to create sub-directory paths and use that in web 13:27
and I don't want paths like /dir1/dir2//file.html (note the double slash) 13:29
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icovnik now after studying docs for IO::Path I know there is something like "some/path".IO.add("subdir") but currently all of this didn't "click" in my head 13:31
so I feel like some lumberjack in china shop 13:32
so much to learn
OK, thank you all, you have given me some information to process 13:34
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icovnik heh I need more help, really basic 13:56
I encountered this: ".return with %!data{$query};"
how to get info about "with"?
e.g. don't want the info about "with", but how to get that info by myself? 13:57
I tried to search on docs.raku.org/ but "with" is too broad search term
crnlskn it's the 8th item under the "composite" heading in the search results for me 14:04
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crnlskn the list being scrollable is a bit non-obvious 14:04
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icovnik oh, I saw that but it didn't seem to be what I was looking for 14:07
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icovnik oh, I saw that but it didn't seem to be what I was looking for 14:07
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crnlskn it should be; `with orwith without` in language/control is exactly where those keywords are explained :) 14:10
icovnik yes, I found it, thak you 14:11
...thank you of course 14:12
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disbot <antononcube> @icovnik Use LLMs -- later models know Raku very well. 14:52
<librasteve> I share your thoughts about the searchbox on docs.raku.org - a new version of the dos site is underway - please raise an issue here github.com/Raku/doc-website/issues to share your concern with the team 15:06
<librasteve> my worry is that since raku has many very english words as operators - my, our, has, with and so on that any good search will need to be designed for raku. We really need some careful hand curation of the searchbox results that recognizes and priorotizes these. Anyway, please share back the link to your new issue here and we can all add our thoughts 15:09
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disbot <nahita3882> old website seems to do better for search purposes; i wonder why/how they changed it 15:58
<nahita3882> this is new^
<nahita3882> cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/768...9aff1&
<nahita3882> ^this is old 15:59
<nahita3882> cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/768...e1774&
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