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| disbot6 | <rcmlz> Did you notice that Thiobe is not showing Raku anymore? | 14:04 | |
| <rcmlz> www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ | |||
| <antononcube> Yeah, but R is up. | 14:06 | ||
| <rcmlz> Perl is back in Top 10 too | |||
| <antononcube> I blame @jubilatious1_98524 . (I conjecture he apparently uses R more often than Raku.) | 14:07 | ||
| <rcmlz> LOL | |||
| <librasteve> realistically, Raku has O(10^3) community and (e.g.) Python has O(10^7) - I think that in 2026 we should focus on getting from O(10^3) to O(10^4) ... so we need 9000 recruits to do this which is 0.1% of Python coders ... | 14:10 | ||
| <rcmlz> Maybe it is time for a DDOS to google.com using „Raku language“ as search string or alternatively everytime „raku“ is started on any machine it fires up an async task that executes a couple of queries to search engines. | 14:11 | ||
| <librasteve> the real question is not "why are we so low in the rankings" but how can we get an "attention, interest, decision" loop going in the wider dev world... | 14:12 | ||
| <librasteve> @rcmlz lol | |||
| <rcmlz> Or we sneak in a Python module „numpyr“ or similar named that does that | |||
| <antononcube> @librasteve Yes and 10^5 or them a AI-bots. | 14:13 | ||
| <antononcube> @librasteve > "why are we so low in the rankings" but how can we get an "attention, interest, decision" l Because of Raku's LLM packages. (I think, I am not sure...) | 14:14 | ||
| <librasteve> OK - let's make a raku.org page for that ... and see if we can get some traction | 14:16 | ||
| <librasteve> interested? | 14:17 | ||
| <antononcube> You about LLms -- of course! | |||
| <librasteve> yes Raku LLM | 14:18 | ||
| <librasteve> cool ... | |||
| <antononcube> I recently checked Google's opinion about that -- it is pretty favorable. | |||
| <antononcube> (Google's AI opinion about Raku's LLM functionaliies.) | 14:19 | ||
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| disbot6 | <librasteve> here's an issue ... github.com/Raku/raku.org/issues/284 | 14:20 | |
| <librasteve> pleaes chuck your ideas in here | |||
| <rcmlz> I am currently more in the humoristic side: Alternatively we are making the server behind „raku.org“ constantly fire „Raku Language“ queries when idle? (maybe via some thor/onion, to get different IP addresses anf AI changed queries to fake it?) as long cost of running the server do stay the same? | 14:22 | ||
| <librasteve> hmm ChatGPT says that Raku LLM lacks the maturity of Pythin, Rust, JS options chatgpt.com/share/69401996-13e8-80...d9b9c433ae ... do you have ink or text to Google opinion ? | 14:23 | ||
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| disbot6 | <antononcube> ChatGPT does not know shit!! | 14:26 | |
| <antononcube> I am looking through my saved searches / requests... | 14:27 | ||
| <antononcube> Just made a new search / comparison: | 14:34 | ||
| <antononcube> cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/768...64e33& | |||
| <librasteve> cool - please can you post this text in the issue so that I can find it later? | 14:35 | ||
| <antononcube> Here is the initial query: | 14:36 | ||
| <antononcube> cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/768...925df& | |||
| <antononcube> I will do that after 2-3 hours. (Have to do things at work...) | 14:37 | ||
| <librasteve> tx! - I will do some mulling | |||
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| disbot6 | <librasteve> Here is a poll on Reddit - replies from Raku beginners are mist welcome ... www.reddit.com/r/rakulang/comments...exemplars/ | 15:06 | |
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