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| lizmat | hmmm... raku.org/downloads still mentions 2020.01 Rakudo Star | 09:31 | |
| as does rakudo.org/star/ | |||
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| sena_kun | I did a blin check twice and both times there are more or less modules (a couple of dozens!) with "Could not obtain blocking, exclusive lock: Failed to lock filehandle: 35", anything rings the bell? | 09:34 | |
| rba | so far there is only a a src and linux binary release of rakudo star. | 09:35 | |
| tellable6 | 2020-05-31T15:30:33Z #raku-dev <patrickb> rba colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_lo...05-31#l191 | ||
| lizmat | ok, I'm going to pull the R* announcement from this weeks RWN | 09:38 | |
| rba | s/linux binary release/windows binary release/ | 09:43 | |
| lizmat | notable6: weekly | 09:55 | |
| notable6 | lizmat, 8 notes: gist.github.com/344af4d0c7ece502b4...29f21cb02f | ||
| lizmat | notable6: weekly reset | 10:02 | |
| notable6 | lizmat, Moved existing notes to “weekly_2020-06-01T10:02:06Z” | ||
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| lizmat | and yet another Rakudo Weekly News hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2020/06/01/2020-...by-wenzel/ | 11:44 | |
| Kaiepi | m: proto sub succ(|) {*}; multi sub succ(Int:D $x) { $x + 1 }; multi sub succ(**@xs) { @xs.map(*.succ) }; say succ 1 | 11:45 | |
| camelia | 2 | ||
| Kaiepi | does the Int:D candidate here get selected at compile-time? | ||
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| Kaiepi | ah, forgot i could add stuff to the proto body to check | 11:56 | |
| lizmat | afk for a few hours& | 12:01 | |
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| timotimo | it randomly occurs to me that we may want to offer loading a module with a specific structure for stringification in the REPL, controllable via an environment variable (OTOH, security concerns) | 12:31 | |
| (after seeing RAKU_REPL_OUTPUT_METHOD in the weekly) | |||
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| Geth | rakudo/rakuast: 41 commits pushed by (Jonathan Worthington)++ review: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/compare/c...c0ae462af8 |
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| jnthn | Just a rebase | 13:25 | |
| Geth | ¦ rakudo: tbrowder self-assigned docs/compiler_overview.pod needs updating github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/3734 | 13:35 | |
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| [Coke] | m: dd "SOMETHING".Date | 13:57 | |
| camelia | Invalid Date string 'SOMETHING'; use yyyy-mm-dd instead in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| [Coke] | Can someone invoke a bot and tell me when that changed? | ||
| timotimo | bisectable6: dd "SOMETHING".Date | 13:58 | |
| bisectable6 | timotimo, Bisecting by output (old=2015.12 new=62adc88) because on both starting points the exit code is 1 | ||
| timotimo, bisect log: gist.github.com/8c087e89ff98de84bf...03e2edc9e0 | 13:59 | ||
| timotimo, (2016-09-27) github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/22...0f14b9c05c | |||
| AlexDaniel` | 6c: dd "SOMETHING".Date | ||
| committable6 | AlexDaniel`, gist.github.com/c1422803ddb5cfb5b9...d3beb2d8cd | ||
| AlexDaniel` | [Coke]: ↑ which change are you interested in? | 14:00 | |
| if the most recent one, then | 14:02 | ||
| b: old=2020.02.1 dd "SOMETHING".Date | |||
| bisectable6 | AlexDaniel`, Bisecting by output (old=2020.02.1 new=62adc88) because on both starting points the exit code is 1 | ||
| AlexDaniel`, bisect log: gist.github.com/c6e13f4023a676e0b6...73969a48e8 | |||
| AlexDaniel`, (2020-02-29) github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/d9...d198747f09 | |||
| [Coke] | we have a doc test that augments Str by adding Date; It is currently failing. | ||
| was trying to figure out if this was a change in Rakudo - doesn't look like it, and this test has been there since 2016, so something weird going on | 14:03 | ||
| github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3455 | |||
| AlexDaniel` | [Coke]: yes, it's caused by a change in rakudo | 14:06 | |
| bisectable can reliably tell when something changed, that is as long as your question is correct | |||
| when you don't know if it changed at all it's the wrong tool to use | 14:07 | ||
| look at the output of committable, it gives the output on all releases, so it's much easier to see the picture | |||
| after that it's easier to ask bisectable for the thing you're interested in by providing a narrower range | 14:08 | ||
| so your answer is (2020-02-29) github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/d9...d198747f09 | |||
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| AlexDaniel` | just always use committable first | 14:09 | |
| arguably bisectable6 and committable6 should trigger at the same time, or maybe both bots should be combined into one | 14:11 | ||
| [Coke] | ... this is why I asked someone else to do it. :) | ||
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| AlexDaniel` | yes yes that's very nice, I'm just curious why timotimo triggered bisectable and then disappeared 😇 | 14:12 | |
| [Coke] | AlexDaniel`++ | 14:13 | |
| AlexDaniel` | I should really fix the user interface of the bots one day, people always use bisectable first which nowadays gives misleading results because the range is so wide (from 2015 to 2020) | 14:14 | |
| [Coke] | AlexDaniel`: so if I had picked something that didn't *fail*, that would have been better, but since it just failed *differently*, that didn't help? | ||
| AlexDaniel` | maybe it's time to change the default | ||
| [Coke]: generally, yes. Then it would've used the exit code, and bisecting by exit code is always more predictable than bisection by output (because any change in the error message will be considered different and as such “new”) | 14:15 | ||
| jnthn | Could bissectable always run commitable too, and if it changed more than once in the range of commits being considered, then it can say "oh btw, this result might not be what you want" | 14:16 | |
| AlexDaniel` | jnthn: yeah, something like that, are we willing to wait though? :) | 14:17 | |
| that is, currently committable is testing 43 revisions | 14:18 | ||
| and bisectable on average tests about 12 or 13 I think | |||
| unless it hits a lot of unbuildable commits | |||
| [Coke] | (yay doc testing that found this was no longer a good example!) | 14:19 | |
| AlexDaniel` | of course I can parallelize it but then perf bisection is at risk, which I used to do relatively often | ||
| jnthn | Ah, logarithms end up being too awesome once again... :) | 14:20 | |
.oO( just bissect on the commitable release commits too ) |
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| AlexDaniel` | yeah, and committable is getting slower over time while bisectable is remaining the same | ||
| because even doubling the amount of commits in the range will only require one more test, while committable will get twice slower. Logarithms are nice indeed | 14:22 | ||
| hmmm | 14:24 | ||
| jnthn: I mean… let's see if I can do it in one evening… | |||
| I'll keep existing functionality the same but will add autobisect: feature | 14:25 | ||
| ok I'll also change what bisectable does by default when you address it… | 14:32 | ||
| or maybe what it does by default in general… | |||
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| Xliff | jnthn: Hi there! How can you access rows using Spreadsheet::XLSX? I can see columns and cells, but not rows. | 15:59 | |
| m: my @a[3;2]; | 16:03 | ||
| camelia | ( no output ) | ||
| jnthn | You mean row metadata, or the cells in a row? | 16:04 | |
| Xliff | The cells in the row | ||
| jnthn | You need to index the cells | ||
| .cells[$row;$col] | |||
| There's not yet any sugar for pulling out a whole row at once | 16:05 | ||
| Xliff | Ah. So that's a rakudo limitation? | ||
| Is that something that is just NYI? | |||
| jnthn | Probably something the module should provide | ||
| Xliff | m: my @a[3;2] = [ rand xx 2 ] xx 2; @a.gist.say | 16:06 | |
| camelia | [[0.6994475307350786 0.3987772143997744] [0.445755831174833 0.8148259960965093] [(Any) (Any)]] |
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| camelia | [[0.6824559234434973 0.8812132385490395] [0.37053142664719985 0.794236344412102] [0.007650594138133071 0.7298466325525138]] |
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| Xliff | m: my @a[3;2] = [ rand xx 3 ] xx 2; @a[1].gist.say | ||
| camelia | Index 2 for dimension 2 out of range (must be 0..1) in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| camelia | Index 2 for dimension 2 out of range (must be 0..1) in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| camelia | Index 2 for dimension 2 out of range (must be 0..1) in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| jnthn | m: my @a[3;2] = [ rand xx 3 ] xx 2; say @a[3;*] | 16:07 | |
| camelia | Index 2 for dimension 2 out of range (must be 0..1) in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| Xliff | m: my @a[3;2] = [ rand xx 3 ] xx 2; @a[1;0].gist.say | ||
| camelia | Index 2 for dimension 2 out of range (must be 0..1) in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| jnthn | m: my @a[3;2] = [ rand xx 2 ] xx 3; say @a[3;*] | ||
| camelia | Partially dimensioned views of shaped arrays not yet implemented. Sorry. in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| jnthn | That's what I was looking for. | ||
| Yeah, that isn't implemented yet | |||
| m: my @a[3;2] = [ rand xx 2 ] xx 3; say @a[3] | |||
| camelia | Partially dimensioned views of shaped arrays not yet implemented. Sorry. in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| Xliff | OK, thanks! | ||
| jnthn | And that is a Rakudo-level limitation | ||
| Xliff | jnthn: So what's the best way to get the actual size of the worksheet? | 16:09 | |
| jnthn | Implement support for dimensions, I guess :) | ||
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| Xliff | LOL. Just found out Cells doesn't implement .shape, so yeah. | 16:11 | |
| jnthn | Yeah, it's there in the XML, just nothing pulls it out yet | ||
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| Geth | rakudo/rakuast: 308f398ae7 | (Jonathan Worthington)++ | 6 files Add basic RakuAST support for calls The new RakuAST::Name node will be used in a few further places that currently use strings also. For now, only non-flattening positional arguments are supported. |
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| Xliff | jnthn: Oh! I see that, now. | 16:17 | |
| (Looking at the source as we talk) | |||
| jnthn: Your solution is rather elegant in a lazy-loading way. To get the dimensions might actually require a full document walk. | 16:21 | ||
| jnthn | Xliff: But some document generators tell us up front by emitting a dimensions tag, which would save that :) | ||
| Xliff | Ah. Need to find that tag in the specs. | 16:22 | |
| jnthn | grmbl, there's a really nice site with the spec and I can never find it if I don't have it open in a tab | 16:23 | |
| Xliff | jnthn: Getting this when attempting to read my spreadsheet: Missing attribute 'spans' on 'row' | 16:27 | |
| jnthn: Full backtrace, here: pastebin.com/am0d2tZe | 16:29 | ||
| jnthn | Hm, that ain't mandatory? :/ | ||
| (Excel always emits it...) | 16:30 | ||
| Xliff | Yeah, these were generated by an online tool | ||
| jnthn | Ah...hmm. That could be a small nuisance | ||
| Xliff | I can give you an example if you give me a second to sanitize the data. This is for $dayJob | ||
| Ah, damn. To save it, I'd have to go through OpenOffice and it would recreate the file...possibly eliminating the evidence. | 16:33 | ||
| :/ | |||
| jnthn: Do you mean this one? download.microsoft.com/download/3/E...Basics.ppt | 16:34 | ||
| Geth | rakudo/rakuast: ad93a0f7c4 | (Jonathan Worthington)++ | 2 files Implement basic method calls in RakuAST |
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| Xliff | Hmmm... isn't there an easy way to take column "ABC" and turn it into a decimal index? | 16:52 | |
| jnthn | Xliff: No...that's just a high-level overview. | 16:54 | |
| I think I've got the other one at home on a browser tab...will add a reference to it in the module | |||
| Can't believe that the most detailed reference I found for it is so hard to re-find... | |||
| Xliff | my $c = 'ABC'; my $posV = 26 ** ($c.chars - 1); my $index = 0; for $c.comb -> { $index += (.ord - 64 * $posV); $posV /= 26 }; $index.say | 16:56 | |
| m: my $c = 'ABC'; my $posV = 26 ** ($c.chars - 1); my $index = 0; for $c.comb -> { $index += (.ord - 64 * $posV); $posV /= 26 }; $index.say | |||
| camelia | Too many positionals passed; expected 0 arguments but got 1 in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| camelia | Too many positionals passed; expected 0 arguments but got 1 in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| Xliff | m: my $c = 'ABC'; my $posV = 26 ** ($c.chars - 1); my $index = 0; for $c.comb { $index += (.ord - 64) * $posV); $posV /= 26 }; $index.say | 16:57 | |
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Missing block at <tmp>:1 ------> 3 $c.comb { $index += (.ord - 64) * $posV7⏏5); $posV /= 26 }; $index.say expecting any of: statement end statement modifier … |
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| Xliff | m: my $c = 'ABC'; my $posV = 26 ** ($c.chars - 1); my $index = 0; for $c.comb { $index += (.ord - 64) * $posV; $posV /= 26 }; $index.say | ||
| camelia | 731 | ||
| Xliff | m: my $c = 'Z'; my $posV = 26 ** ($c.chars - 1); my $index = 0; for $c.comb { $index += (.ord - 64) * $posV; $posV /= 26 }; $index.say | ||
| camelia | 26 | ||
| Xliff | m: my $c = 'AA'; my $posV = 26 ** ($c.chars - 1); my $index = 0; for $c.comb { $index += (.ord - 64) * $posV; $posV /= 26 }; $index.say | ||
| camelia | 27 | ||
| Xliff | m: my $c = 'AZ'; my $posV = 26 ** ($c.chars - 1); my $index = 0; for $c.comb { $index += (.ord - 64) * $posV; $posV /= 26 }; $index.say | ||
| camelia | 52 | ||
| Xliff | m: my $c = 'AAA'; my $posV = 26 ** ($c.chars - 1); my $index = 0; for $c.comb { $index += (.ord - 64) * $posV; $posV /= 26 }; $index.say | 16:58 | |
| camelia | 703 | ||
| Xliff | m: my $c = 'BA'; my $posV = 26 ** ($c.chars - 1); my $index = 0; for $c.comb { $index += (.ord - 64) * $posV; $posV /= 26 }; $index.say | ||
| camelia | 53 | ||
| Xliff | \o/ | ||
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| tyil | .tell hankache maybe you can help here stackoverflow.com/questions/621372...in-windows | 18:36 | |
| tellable6 | tyil, I'll pass your message to hankache | ||
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| lizmat | weekly: perlmonks.org/?node_id=11117564 | 19:56 | |
| notable6 | lizmat, Noted! (weekly) | ||
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| [Coke] | <hagrid>I Shouldn't'a read that</hagrid> | 20:22 | |
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