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🦋 Welcome to the IRC channel of the core developers of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org #rakulang). This channel is logged for the purpose of history keeping about its development | evalbot usage: 'm: say 3;' or /msg camelia m: ... | Logs available at irclogs.raku.org/raku-dev/live.html | For MoarVM see #moarvm Set by lizmat on 8 June 2022. |
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| MasterDuke | jdv++ | 01:33 | |
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| lizmat | m: say Q|foo(42)|.AST | 17:13 | |
| camelia | ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling Undeclared routine: foo used at line -1. Did you mean ''? |
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| lizmat | nine: ^^ I'd say that is wrong, it should complain at EVAL time if there is truly no sub found | 17:14 | |
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| patrickb | I have just uploaded the binary release archives for 2023.06 to rakudo.org. Yay! | 18:18 | |
| lizmat | patrickb++ | 18:20 | |
| nine | m: foo(42) | 19:16 | |
| camelia | ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp> Undeclared routine: foo used at line 1 |
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| nine | lizmat: that's just the same. Subroutine calls are resolved at compile time and we complain if we can't do that. | ||
| lizmat | I guess we then need some post CHECK time or something like that | 19:17 | |
| because I could be building an AST with the .AST function, which references foo | 19:18 | ||
| and then later combine that AST with another AST that *does* contain the "foo" sub | |||
| that currently doesn't work :-( and makes Formatter more convoluted atm | 19:20 | ||
| so it feels to me we need a AST CHECK time functionality, and an EVAL CHECK time functionality | |||
| I mean, we should see RakuAST as building blocks, no? | 19:22 | ||
| nine | Sure, RakuAST nodes are building blocks. .AST is a debugging aid | 19:25 | |
| lizmat | well, I'm at a bit of a conundrum re q:o/%s/ being compile time then | 19:29 | |
| in the current code, this references some helper subs that are in scope | |||
| however, they do not get properly QASTed, or maybe bytecoded, probably because these subs are not in the sc | 19:30 | ||
| so I'm not adding the ASTs of these subs to the generated AST, and those ASTs are generated from the code of the original subs using .AST | 19:32 | ||
| this for maintenance / development convenience | |||
| nine | So....there is some bug and you are trying to work around that but that is tedious so you use a debugging aid that was never meant for such a thing and it doesn't work out well? | 19:42 | |
| lizmat | from a conversation with jnthn I gathered that it would be hard to fix, these missing subs | 19:45 | |
| nine | When has that ever kept us from fixing things? :D | 19:46 | |
| Well, except for the still existing race condition in MoarVM's expression JIT compiler... | |||
| lizmat | ok, let's see if I can golf it | ||
| nine; golfed gist.github.com/lizmat/91930d595ca...9953a8f26a | 19:58 | ||
| afk for a bit& | 20:05 | ||
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| timo | nine: why is there a race condition in the exprjit compiler, we never run more than one thread that does speshing and jitting | 22:40 | |
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| ugexe | github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/ec62...y.pm6#L178 Shouldn't this read be protected? | 23:45 | |
| yep, it was broken in github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/95...03b53597ba | 23:48 | ||
| the Lock::Soft code was eventually reverted but the original protected block wasn't returned | |||