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releasable6 Next release in ≈6 days and ≈15 hours. There are no known blockers. Please log your changes in the ChangeLog: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/ChangeLog-Draft 03:00
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gfldex adding symbols to a package at BEGIN time is not specced. Should it? 07:59
nine I'm pretty sure that's an intended use case for BEGIN blocks 08:02
gfldex I'm asking because my last blog post is largely unspecced. :) 08:04
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Altai-man_ It seems there are some segfaults on master, as well as "normal" breakages. New Blin ticket is done. 08:59
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nine "Spit – Fail, Bisected: de6ebd4e7d432a5f4375e61e648b3ab12c915c16" that's...surprising considering that commit only changes some comments 09:13
Btw. Blin results would be even nicer if they were grouped by identified commit 09:14
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lizmat Files=1306, Tests=111379, 216 wallclock secs (28.97 usr 8.46 sys + 3024.36 cusr 286.67 csys = 3348.46 CPU) 09:18
Altai-man_ Can simply search by sha on page if necessary. Most of are not so bad like list return type change.
nine Sure I can search. Grouping would give a better overview though and one could see at first glance which regression has the most impact. But anyway, that's really just nit picking on an incredibly useful tool 09:23
Altai-man_ Agreed. 09:43
MasterDuke huh. i just tried to do `raku -I lib t/http2.t` in a cro-http checkout, but it dies with `Error while importing from 'Cro::Uri': no such tag 'encode-percents'at /home/dan/Source/perl6/modules/cro-http/lib/Cro/Uri/HTTP.pm6 (Cro::Uri::HTTP):1------> ::Uri :decode-percents, :encode-percents⏏;` 09:50
Altai-man_ This is really weird... MasterDuke are you using master? 09:53
MasterDuke yeah
Altai-man_ Is `-I lib` correct as well as `-Ilib`, I assume?
MasterDuke is Cro::URI a separate module? should it be in the depends?
Altai-man_ TIL 09:54
nine Probably missing a version requirement in the dependency specification
Altai-man_ MasterDuke, can you try update Cro::Core?
MasterDuke hm, zef says i have Cro::Uri installed
Altai-man_ github.com/croservices/cro-core/co...5b203766cc 09:55
Is included since 0.8.2.
MasterDuke upgrading to 0.8.3 09:56
ugh. this might be that mismatch between my system raku and locally built raku again 09:57
afk for a while 09:58
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[Tux] Rakudo version 2020.05.1-285-g813447053 - MoarVM version 2020.05-85-g02c8cf777
csv-ip5xs0.803 - 0.832
csv-ip5xs-207.688 - 7.957
csv-parser24.223 - 25.613
csv-test-xs-200.387 - 0.388
test7.729 - 7.764
test-t1.898 - 2.010
test-t --race0.864 - 0.875
test-t-2030.979 - 31.851
test-t-20 --race8.652 - 9.046
much better, but not quite there yet
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AlexDaniel Xliff: I have to admit you were right, the commit SHAs need to be links, otherwise blin output pasted as a gist kinda sucks 10:35
tellable6 AlexDaniel, I'll pass your message to Xliff
AlexDaniel Altai-man_: how do you run Blin? 10:42
Altai-man_: I'm wondering why does it say 26a7869b38986dfde6558b7c433a74f857fffb65 (26a7869b38986dfde6558b7c433a74f857fffb65)
linkable6 (2020-06-13) github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/26a7869b38 Bump NQP to get double-free fix
AlexDaniel instead of HEAD (26a7869b38986dfde6558b7c433a74f857fffb65) 10:43
Altai-man_ AlexDaniel, last time was simple `time podman run -ti -v /var/tmp/Blin-volume:/mnt myblin --old=2020.05.1 --new=26a7869b38986dfde6558b7c433a74f857fffb65`.
AlexDaniel Altai-man_: why not --new=HEAD ?
Altai-man_: also why provide --old and --new at all? :) 10:44
Altai-man_: old defaults to the last release
and --new to HEAD
Altai-man_ Because when something like a bump happens and I want to test exactly that, but I don't know is the build is here, I can run it with the commit I want and it dies if there is no build yet. But with HEAD I need to look at the output to make sure it decided HEAD is the commit I want. 10:45
I know it is a rare case.
And usually the builds are here, but I like it this way. The note of --old having default is very cool!
AlexDaniel whatever makes you comfortable, it just triggers me that it says 26a7869b38986dfde6558b7c433a74f857fffb65 (26a7869b38986dfde6558b7c433a74f857fffb65) xD 10:46
linkable6 (2020-06-13) github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/26a7869b38 Bump NQP to get double-free fix
Altai-man_ I think I'll remove --old from now on, this seems handy. AlexDaniel++
AlexDaniel I'll fix it now though
Altai-man_: any requests while I'm touching the code? 10:50
Altai-man_ AlexDaniel, grouping by commit was requested above, I think. Not sure how should it really look like, though. 10:51
AlexDaniel Altai-man_: but it's already grouped?
nine: please submit things like this as tickets, I love nitpicking :) 10:54
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AlexDaniel nine: grouping is already there, but sorting is not which is maybe why you didn't notice grouping :) 10:55
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AlexDaniel nine: you want what, biggest regressions to come first? Or last? 10:57
if they're first then you'd need to scroll down for everything else, if they're last, then… hmm
MissingDependency Whateverable 10:59
sena_kun: by any chance do you know which one is it? 11:02
sena_kun: like in the json output, or something?
sena_kun AlexDaniel, let me see...
"output": null, 11:04
"version": "1.0.9"
AlexDaniel it doesn't include warnings in json output? I see
sena_kun Possibly. 11:05
Geth Blin: 5973a34917 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | bin/blin.p6
Write the values directly

Makes the code a bit shorter.
Blin: 877058da8b | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | bin/blin.p6
Change output → output-new in json output

Because that's what it is.
Blin: b5a2661335 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | bin/blin.p6
Include errors in json output

Otherwise it can be hard to figure out why something has a missing dependency and such.
sena_kun AlexDaniel++ 11:16
Geth Blin: 46ebf46482 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | bin/blin.p6
Linkify rakudo SHAs

It was expected that the produced markdown would be pasted as a rakudo ticket, but it seems that sharing the output as a gist is also very common.
  Xliff++ for introducing this idea originally (which I reverted)
AlexDaniel ===> Failed to find dependencies: sake 11:23
patrickb: it's kinda weird… locally I tried to install `sake` and it works, but Travis and Blin both seem to be unhappy about it because zef fails to install it as a dependency. I don't remember now, but I think there was some kind of bug or something 11:25
tellable6 AlexDaniel, I'll pass your message to patrickb 11:26
AlexDaniel patrickb: but nevermind, just letting you know. I just changed the dep in whateverable and it should be fine
tellable6 AlexDaniel, I'll pass your message to patrickb
Geth Blin: 75a822a4c6 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | bin/blin.p6
Sort the list by the number of broken modules

The output was already grouped so that modules broken by the same commit were near each other, but now those commits that caused most broken modules will be on the bottom.
  @niner++ for the idea.
AlexDaniel sena_kun: how do I trigger docker image rebuild?
sena_kun AlexDaniel, the one used for running blin? 12:36
AlexDaniel sena_kun: ye
sena_kun AlexDaniel, it's a local process, I'll do it now. 12:37
AlexDaniel cool
let me know if I broke something :)
ah 12:45
sena_kun: I think I figured out the missing dep issue: github.com/Raku/ake/commit/720c250...03b2d28702 12:48
sena_kun AlexDaniel, great! I am building a new image now, will run another blin tonight. 12:49
AlexDaniel it's possible that it will fail depending on how fash zef gets to know this commit above
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MasterDuke if i run `zef list --installed`, and some modules are found in ~/.raku and some are found in my --prefix directory, how do i know why some are in ~/.raku ? 15:55
is it just finding things that have been precomped? i.e., the things in ~/.raku are just modules i've used when doing a `-I <something>` vs `zef install <something>` 15:57
nine No, we actually can't enumerate precomp cache contents 16:13
Geth rakudo: 6f6b2dfeb9 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 2 files
Make positional captures stored in an Array again

Apparently there are too many modules in the ecosystem depending on this behaviour. Basically reverts f627d2c85955b2a7d7478d
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Geth rakudo: 219199bb68 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/core.c/Match.pm6
Don't use separate method for recursing

  - basically reverts ed65d733c667455f628e9
  - apparently, objects in a Match structure *can* be visited multiple
   times, and when they do, create a different result in the structure.
Since the SUBMATCH method did *not* check for visitedness, this resulted in a different value being returned, which upset a lot of modules in the ecosystem. Not sure I want to rework the Match object to make it lazy anymore. :-(
Altai-man_ lizmat++ for all the amazing deeds. 17:26
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releasable6 Next release in ≈5 days and ≈19 hours. There are no known blockers. Please log your changes in the ChangeLog: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/ChangeLog-Draft 23:00
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