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lizmat Files=1336, Tests=113586, 221 wallclock secs (29.32 usr 8.82 sys + 3104.14 cusr 293.65 csys = 3435.93 CPU) 09:21
Altai-man Anyone against bumping moar/nqp? 09:44
lizmat not me :-) 09:45
Altai-man ship it!
Geth nqp: ea2e8f0808 | Altai-man++ | tools/templates/MOAR_REVISION
[MoarVM Bump] Brings 14 commits

MoarVM bump brought: github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/compare/2...g590bac47e 590bac47e Add MVM_str_hash_next_nocheck, which skips the MVM_str_hash_at_end check. e3ad7ced6 Refactor while((foo = MVM_str_hash_current(...)) { ... } loops. 1ef6a37ba Replace MVMIter's use of MVM_hash_end with MVM_hash_start. fbfc8a0ff Testing `hashtable->cur_items == 0` is a better idea in MVM_str_hash_first. ... (10 more lines)
Altai-man HMMMMMMM.
Geth rakudo: 1e552d21cf | Altai-man++ | tools/templates/NQP_REVISION
[NQP Bump] Brings 7 commits

NQP bump brought: github.com/perl6/nqp/compare/2020....gea2e8f080 ea2e8f080 [MoarVM Bump] Brings 14 commits 74ae45df1 Merge pull request #665 from fooist/patch-2 4d62fc9be Merge pull request #664 from fooist/patch-1 37a09fcf1 fix typo b21f9b06f update copyright in update-submodules to 2020 c461d5978 update copyright in Configure.pl to 2020 6784ed98b update copyright date to 2020
Altai-man I wonder if bumps should be branched, by the way.
Altai-man Feels like yes.
Altai-man runs Blin
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Geth rakudo/no-camels: 8e6931f588 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 3 files
Decamelify easter eggs
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rakudo: lizmat++ created pull request #3908:
Decamelify easter eggs		 09:53
Altai-man m: spurt 'hehe', :bin; 10:38
camelia Too few positionals passed; expected at least 2 arguments but got only 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Altai-man m: spurt 'hehe', 'foo', :bin;
camelia Unexpected named argument 'bin' passed
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Altai-man bisectable6, spurt 'hehe', 'foo', :bin;
bisectable6 Altai-man, Will bisect the whole range automagically because no endpoints were provided, hang tight
Altai-man, More than 4 changes to bisect, please try a narrower range like old=2020.05.1 new=HEAD 10:39
Altai-man, Output on all releases: gist.github.com/b711ae06e11739329e...a916038696
Altai-man bisectable6, old=2020.02 new=HEAD spurt 'hehe', 'foo', :bin; 10:40
bisectable6 Altai-man, Bisecting by output (old=2020.02 new=1e552d2) because on both starting points the exit code is 1
Altai-man, bisect log: gist.github.com/6a555daab2553e414e...890447b5e1
Altai-man, (2020-05-17) github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/da...776dcddca9
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sena_kun perl6book.com should be updated to rakubooks.com, no? 12:10
ping rba ^ 12:11
moritz sena_kun: that's my domain, akshually 12:13
sena_kun moritz, I see. Well, I was going to buy rakubooks.com but then thought we have (or supposed to have) an organized common infrastructure point for making such things, so pinged rba. 12:24
rba sena_kun: pong 12:44
tellable6 2020-08-06T09:57:06Z #raku-dev <tbrowder> rba ref camelia and security and installing modules on demand, could it be done more securely server side by a cron job instead of relying on pushes from a bot?
2020-08-12T02:24:04Z #raku <melezhik> rba: looks like there is no longer ssh connection to brezeleisen for rakudist users
2020-08-15T02:56:41Z #raku <melezhik> rba: ssh brezeleisen issue resolved
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sena_kun rba, hey! Hopefully you are doing well. I have maybe 2 things to ask about: 1)the blin server can likely be used for Rakudist and for whatever projects need it, as I now run blin on my hardware; 2)about raku-books.org above, I'd like to contribute to buying this domain and join it to existing infra, what should I do? 12:58
Oops, *raku-books.com
rba sena_kun: 1) The blin server is used for blin and for rakudist. 13:10
sena_kun: 2) Domain topic: You may buy it yourself or if itā€™s a page from communty interesst, I could do it and add it the oraganisation at gandi I have all these domains for raku. Or if you want just the dns server and/or the page hosted we can just add them. 13:12
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rba 2) Or you may use books.raku.org, maybe? 13:14
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Xliff . 13:16
sena_kun rba, I am not sure about pros and cons of raku.org subdomain, hmm. 13:19
[TuxCM] Rakudo version 2020.08.2-64-g1e552d21c - MoarVM version 2020.08-91-g590bac47e
csv-ip5xs0.982 - 1.238
csv-ip5xs-2010.167 - 11.963
csv-parser25.355 - 29.464
csv-test-xs-200.391 - 0.391
test7.884 - 10.077
test-t2.044 - 2.100
test-t --race0.870 - 0.934
test-t-2032.624 - 35.825
test-t-20 --race9.093 - 10.200
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sena_kun releasable6, status 14:55
releasable6 sena_kun, Next release in ā‰ˆ7 days and ā‰ˆ4 hours. 2 blockers. Changelog for this release was not started yet
sena_kun, Details: gist.github.com/f13c7c0b5209da42b7...5998be0055
Geth Ā¦ rakudo: Altai-man assigned to Kaiepi Issue Blin 2020.09, round 1 github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/3909 14:59
Ā¦ rakudo: Altai-man assigned to lizmat Issue Blin 2020.09, round 1 github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/3909
timotimo we haven't developed enough if there's so few new failures 15:03
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MasterDuke [TuxCM]: those aren't great numbers. under load? 16:05
timotimo Altai-man: i seem to recall there used to be a link to full blin output in the reports, is that gone? can i see how exactly the different modules fail, like the flappers and such? 16:17
Altai-man There was no such link, but I can provide you whole output, want some? 16:28
timotimo, clbin.com/YtA1F <- enjoy 16:30
timotimo ah, that's raw :) 16:32
Altai-man Well...
timotimo aaahaha, it's a frickin null byte in the name of the distribution 16:33
that's brilliant, i love it
Xliff How did that get there, I wonder? 16:44
timotimo i assume it's part of the group of modules designed to cause insufficiently careful ecosystem-handling tools to break loudly, so they can be fxed 16:46
we have some that depend on each other circularly, for example
gfldex While we are on the subject of the ecosystem. Would it be reasonable to ask jonathanstowe to hand over control of META6 and Test::Meta to raku or raku-comminuty-modules? 18:09
Both modules are kinda blockers for changes to the ecosystem. 18:10
lizmat gfldex: is RabidGravy not open to pull requests and such ? 18:12
I thought they were pretty responsive usually? 18:13
[Coke] +1 to leaving things out of raku-community whenever possible. 18:19
Xliff gfldex: He's not as active as he once was. 18:35
.seen RabidGravy
tellable6 Xliff, I saw RabidGravy 2017-12-17T01:40:19Z in #perl6: <RabidGravy> that's perl6advent.wordpress.com/2017/12/...ier-title/ if you want to get in early
Xliff Er sorry... I meant lizmat
lizmat meant me in what sense? 18:37
MasterDuke lizmat: i assume "He's not as active as he once was." was meant as a reply to "is RabidGravy not open to pull requests and such ? I thought they were pretty responsive usually?" 18:53
lizmat aaah... ok 18:55
gfldex I got a PR open right now. So I will be able to report in a few days.
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ggoebel are the ecosystem-handling tools documented anywhere in one place? 20:27
tellable6 2020-09-12T11:04:03Z #raku <JJMerelo> ggoebbel Not finished yet, and I don't want to skew responses by posting them; however, in a day or two I will probably close it and post results at the p6-survey repo.
ggoebel .tell timotimo are the ecosystem-handling tools collectively documented anywhere in one place? If so, would mention of that in rakudo repo's CONTRIBUTORS.md be welcome? Noting that only the rakudo repo has a CONTRIBUTORS.md... would the rakudo docs subdirectory be the place to put an ecosystem-tools.md? 20:32
tellable6 ggoebel, I'll pass your message to timotimo
gfldex ggoebel: what is documented can be found at docs.raku.org/language/modules
ggoebel: I would not spend much time on improving it. Most of the ecosystem is in need of improvement. 20:33
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ggoebel gfldex: I was thinking of ecosystem as being more expansive than modules. Things like blin, ci, things that generate reports, summaries, and statistics, etc. 20:37
is it documented anywhere how one would hand over control of a module to raku or raku-community-modules? 20:39
lizmat AlexDaniel` might know 20:42
MasterDuke ggoebel: ask JJMerelo, he just transfered some to raku-community-modules from somebody, i forget who
timotimo interesting idea
tellable6 hey timotimo, you have a message: gist.github.com/c39a1a91167709e866...5947d8d846
timotimo a relatively wide net could be cast to catch stuff that interacts with the ecosystem 20:46
for example, the whateverable bots have one that will search through all modules
ggoebel .JJMerlo Thank you for doing the survey. -MasterDuke mentioned you helped someone transfer some of their modules to raku-community-modules. Is that process documented anywhere? 20:50
MasterDuke ggoebel: you probably want to `.tell JJMerelo <...>` 20:51
ggoebel .JJMerelo Thank you for doing the survey. -MasterDuke mentioned you helped someone transfer some of their modules to raku-community-modules. Is that process documented anywhere? 20:53
thx.
.tell JJMerelo Thank you for doing the survey. -MasterDuke mentioned you helped someone transfer some of their modules to raku-community-modules. Is that process documented anywhere?
tellable6 ggoebel, I'll pass your message to JJMerelo
AlexDaniel` if you have write access in the community-modules org you should be able to transfer 20:58
I did my best to autoinvite everyone to the org, so it should just work for most people
ggoebel: arguably tools should be in the ecosystem too, in App:: namespace 20:59
that doesn't always happen and sometime there are reasons for that 21:00
sometimes* :)
ggoebel regarding ecosystem... looks like "there is a repo for that" github.com/Raku/ecosystem
timotimo yeah that's where the list of urls to meta.json files lives 21:01
there's a place that collects all these and makes one big json file out of the contents 21:02
ggoebel AlexDaniel: where is community-modules? how does a new contributor get invited? I've looked at docs.raku.org/language/modules and github.com/Raku/ecosystem but I'm missing any mention of raku-community-modules or community-modules... 21:04
timotimo github.com/raku-community-modules/ - this here
AlexDaniel` github.com/raku-community-modules/
ggoebel thx 21:05
timotimo: so ecosystem in this context is very module specific
AlexDaniel` ggoebel: I can invite you, but can you please check github.com/Raku/please-turn-off-th...ch-feature
ggoebel: because sometimes people are very unhappy when they get autosubscribed to hundreds of repos :) 21:06
timotimo ggoebel: ah, yes, i was specifically only referring to "all the modules we have publicly listed" i guess 21:17
ggoebel AlexDaniel: done. thx 21:21
AlexDaniel` invitations sent 21:23
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