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releasable6 Next release in ≈6 days and ≈15 hours. 2 blockers. Please log your changes in the ChangeLog: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/ChangeLog-Draft 03:00
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sena_kun releasable6, status 09:24
releasable6 sena_kun, Next release in ≈6 days and ≈9 hours. 2 blockers. Changelog for this release was not started yet
sena_kun, Details: gist.github.com/3086b4f8af55dcf780...829d4e13a3
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Geth Blin: 4088ce6d23 | (Haytham Elganiny)++ | lib/Blin/Tester/Pakku.rakumod
* auto update Pakku from main branch.

Although this will re-install `Pakku` every run, it's better than pulling updates manually.
Blin: 43bb459860 | (Haytham Elganiny)++ | lib/Blin/Tester/Pakku.rakumod
Move the note to the top
Blin: 5068260423 | Altai-man++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | lib/Blin/Tester/Pakku.rakumod
Merge pull request #27 from hythm7/pakku-auto-update

Pakku auto update
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tellable6 hey bartolin, you have a message: gist.github.com/de1e36e69a931d1752...ea2e1763d9 13:35
bartolin oops :)
Geth rakudo: 44d037d7a8 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 3 files
Revert "Make @a[int $i] about 2x as fast"

This reverts commit f6a33b8b3504f887201d5e1ed8a2f6f86b438f28.
More research is needed, as removal of the int candidates definitely makes other situations worse.
Altai-man Oh, I am just creating a blin ticket with blaming some of regressions on this commit. :) 13:50
lizmat ah, it caused regressions ?
Altai-man Hmm, or it did not. Investigating~ 13:51
lizmat or was it 3e6e15e620 ? 13:52
linkable6 (2020-11-14) github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/3e6e15e620 Make simple native shaped array access about 5x as fast
Altai-man lizmat, I'll publish it very soon when make sure all flappers are removed from the list...
lizmat oki
Geth rakudo: Altai-man assigned to lizmat Issue Blin 2020.11, round 1 github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/4031
5cbe14e8c8 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/core.c/Str.pm6

Commit 97d473b9a5768add0d3 hid the conversion of the "\r\n" synthetic behind the "\r" handling. Fixed this by moving the check for "\r\n" forward, so that the speed increase could be maintained.
lizmat 1 down
Altai-man lizmat++ # thanks for you perseverance 14:31
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travis-ci Rakudo build errored. Elizabeth Mattijsen 'Revert "Make @a[int $i] about 2x as fast" 14:38
travis-ci.org/rakudo/rakudo/builds/743740544 github.com/rakudo/rakudo/compare/f...d037d7a81c
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lizmat "An error occurred while generating the build script." 14:54
that's one of the reasons I stopped using Travis for my personal projects, too many false negatives
Altai-man Azure builds are ok. 14:55
lizmat yeah, maybe we should retire Travis altogether ?
Altai-man That's what I was thinking we are going to do, but the efforts was maybe not coordinated enough.
lizmat I mean, I'm using Github Actions for my own projects now, which typically comes back within minutes if there's something wrong 14:56
Travis generally took over an hour to get back, and then often wrong
Altai-man I think what blocks that is 1)unclear status of e.g. build restart action availability for all core devs; 2)unclear status if azure completely covers _everything_ travis covers.
lizmat I realize it could well be how it was set up, put I didn't want to put in the effort to figure out how to make that work better
and then we have rakudist :-) 14:57
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Altai-man patrickb++ did some amazing efforts into the "better CI" direction. 14:59
Geth rakudo: 75574bea9b | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 2 files
Native shaped array access needs a decont

Spotted by breakage of Font::FreeType
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lizmat bisectable6: dd DateTime.new(2016,4,23,11,0,0).timezone 15:14
bisectable6 lizmat, Will bisect the whole range automagically because no endpoints were provided, hang tight
lizmat, Output on all releases: gist.github.com/9271cf0244911e51cd...a7a256ede9 15:15
lizmat, Bisecting by exit code (old=2016.01.1 new=2016.02). Old exit code: 1
lizmat, bisect log: gist.github.com/a61f84c04b849ffb1b...6c86e93601
lizmat, (2016-02-15) github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/b1...3710f98ebd
lizmat, ⚠ New output detected, please review the results manually
lizmat, Output on all releases and bisected commits: gist.github.com/e0506c120ca245949d...bc16f979a2
AlexDaniel` heh, the feeling when a rare code path is finally hit :) 15:16
although arguably it could've ordered the results a bit better, but it's still good 15:17
lizmat Altai-man: found the issue with App::Football, considering options on fixing 15:38
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patrickb o/ 15:48
tellable6 2020-11-06T21:21:36Z #raku-dev <[Coke]> patrickb: clicked on the "join now" in each email, in each case, taken to a page that gives me a 401 not allowed. (all mentioning my [email@hidden.address] account)
2020-11-10T21:39:33Z #raku <El_Che> patrickb I saw your mention on the github ticket, but I hadn't had the time to read it. Just moved and right away started demolishing walls and rooms on the old place. Tired :)
patrickb Altai-man: Can you explain why you consider github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/3996 a blocker? 15:49
[Coke]: I have no idea what might be wrong. I just re-sent the invite for the "Rakudo" organization. Can you give it a second try? 15:51
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travis-ci Rakudo build passed. Elizabeth Mattijsen 'Native shaped array access needs a decont 16:16
travis-ci.org/rakudo/rakudo/builds/743748696 github.com/rakudo/rakudo/compare/5...574bea9b08
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Geth rakudo: 9443fba84d | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/core.c/DateTime.pm6
Datetime.local should default to $*TZ

Not the internal logic for default timezone offset, because one could have a outer lexical $*TZ with different semantics (which is what testing of App::Football does).
rakudo/empty-spurt: f2ea0a65b3 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 2 files
Allow for a contentless spurt

To give "touch" like capability. This can already be achieved by explicitely specifying "", so maybe we should emphasize that in the documentation instead.
rakudo: lizmat++ created pull request #4032:
Allow for a contentless spurt
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Geth_ rakudo: 1cb2df807d | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 2 files
Make Whatever slice work on 1 dim native shaped arrays
rakudo: fa2013db40 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 9 files
Don't use "perl" in identifiers unless needed

No functional changes.
[Coke] .tell patrickb - got the latest invite... brings me to a 401 page still. ah well 18:16
tellable6 [Coke], I'll pass your message to patrickb
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Geth_ z/fix-q: 6124ea79c7 | (Stoned Elipot)++ | 2 files
Fix 'q' command

While here add support for VISUAL environment variable.
z: stoned++ created pull request #8:
Fix 'q' command
rakudo: stoned++ created pull request #4033:
Fix mode
rakudo: b129f31051 | (Stoned Elipot)++ | src/core.c/IO/Path/Parts.pm6
Fix mode
rakudo: 2a5dd9e6ec | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | src/core.c/IO/Path/Parts.pm6
Merge pull request #4033 from stoned/fix-mode

Fix mode
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vrurg Altai-man: ping? 20:29
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Geth_ rakudo/master: 29 commits pushed by (Vadim Belman)++
review: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/compare/2...090e04dcd4
roast/master: 8 commits pushed by (Vadim Belman)++
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Altai-man vrurg, pong 21:24
vrurg Altai-man: I've done it already. Wasn't sure if it's ok to merge the PR.
lizmat Travis strikes again with "An error occurred while generating the build script." in one of the builds 21:25
vrurg Hope there will be no problems with it.
Altai-man vrurg, I'll put another blin run tomorrow. 21:27
vrurg Altai-man: So far, I took care of the few fallouts it had. Let's see if your run will find any more. :) 21:28
Altai-man vrurg, sure! Thanks for your hard work.
vrurg Same to you! :) 21:31
I'm not sure if release work is any easier... 21:34
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travis-ci Rakudo build errored. Elizabeth Mattijsen 'Merge pull request #4033 from stoned/fix-mode 21:56
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travis-ci Rakudo build errored. Vadim Belman 'Merge pull request #3891 from vrurg/raku_1285 22:13
travis-ci.org/rakudo/rakudo/builds/743807050 github.com/rakudo/rakudo/compare/2...090e04dcd4
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vrurg Is it a travis problem or something in our setup? 22:15
Altai-man Given how persistent it is I am not sure it is a travis flapper, really. 22:16
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melezhik2 Hi Raku devs. I am thinking about raku.play service allow to run Raku code snippets in various Rakudo versions, commit SHA. Will it it be useful for Raku developers? 22:31
It could allow on my view to test rakudo commits, using web UI and share results within team ... 22:32
I also think one can optionally use Raku modules within those snippets and raku.play will automatically handle this for user ...
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MasterDuke melezhik2: committable6 allows that here, but not to easily use modules. that would be a nice addition 22:36
melezhik MasterDuke sure. Actually I am thinking about web application, with some form/text area so that user could put all the details and trigger a code build 22:38
not an irc client
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melezhik and I already have 99 code for that ( implemented for Rakudist ) 22:38
99 -> 99 %
it will also be possible to run them code/snippet in bulk for various versions/commits 22:39
the same fashion rakudist does 22:40
and because code would run in mortal docker containers, it even will be possible to install system packages, if use wish so, so for example to check external libraries code 22:41
use -> user 22:42
MasterDuke that could be nice 22:43
melezhik yeah, just wanted some feed back from possible users before start implementing this :-))
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releasable6 Next release in ≈5 days and ≈19 hours. 4 blockers. Please log your changes in the ChangeLog: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/ChangeLog-Draft 23:00
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