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🦋 Welcome to the IRC channel of the core developers of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org #rakulang). This channel is logged for the purpose of history keeping about its development | evalbot usage: 'm: say 3;' or /msg camelia m: ... | Logs available at irclogs.raku.org/raku-dev/live.html | For MoarVM see #moarvm Set by lizmat on 8 June 2022. |
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| elcaro | Liz has you covered: raku.land/zef:lizmat/Adverb::Eject | 05:51 | |
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| Geth | roast: 503f521e29 | usev6++ | 4 files [JVM] Skip tests for broken multi dispatch See github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/5037 |
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| patrickb | o/ Quickly dropping by. Still have very limited time at hand (my first child was born three weeks ago and we had a rough start). If someone needs to reach out for me, I do look at my mail regularly and skim IRC, but can't guarantee that some ping on IRC won't slip through. | 10:26 | |
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| patrickb | Where can I read up on how distributions and the stuff in META6.json is meant to work? I'm wondering, why resources and modules are explicitly stated, while scripts (stuff in bin/) and tests (stuff in t/ and xt/) is implicit. I guess this isn't an accident, but don't manage to think of a reason why this should be so. | 10:31 | |
| lizmat | not sure why scripts aren't mentioned: I think that would actually be helpful for introspection | 10:32 | |
| as to tests: I feel that's an internal thing, really shouldn't matter on the actual content of the distribution on usage | |||
| so I completely understand why that is not in the META | 10:33 | ||
| patrickb: docs.raku.org/language/modules#ind...META6.json is the only thing I could find quickly | 10:34 | ||
| patrickb | Thanks. | 10:36 | |
| nine | I'm to blame for the implicit bin/ thing. Seemed like a good idea at the time, but I probably would do it differently today. | 10:41 | |
| patrickb | I'm waiting for someone to set up a subdomain on rakudo.org (See github.com/Raku/RakudoCIBot/issues...19143800). Anyone knows who to ping? Progress on the RCB isn't blocked by this, but I do not like working with a temporary domain longer term. Links will start appearing and then back compat is an issue. | 10:42 | |
| Hi nine! Hope you have / had a good vacation. | |||
| lizmat | patrickb: pinged the RSC | 10:44 | |
| patrickb | nine: So that files in bin/ are scripts and installed as such isn't an accident, but a behavior that one can rely on? It always felt like a not-entirely-implemented-yet thing to me. | 10:45 | |
| lizmat: Thanks! | |||
| nine | patrickb: yes, that behavior is now set in stone. At least for this META version. We may want to be more explicit in a future version, but that must be clearly marked thus. | 10:54 | |
| patrickb | ok, thanks for clarifying. | 10:55 | |
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| Kaipei | i'm looking into whether or not [List|Array].STORE multis can be simplified while making *all* of them delegate to just one that does over-iterator | 12:12 | |
| it's a bit tricky - it wants to reify at least the eager values, and i'm not very familiar with how Array does containers | 12:13 | ||
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| Geth | roast: 36cc3ad363 | usev6++ | 9 files [JVM] Fudge new failing test This should make "make spectest" usable again and should help with catching further regressions. |
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| gfldex | lizmat: would it make sense to special case method splice for Junctions to speed things up? | 19:36 | |
| lizmat | splice is already a multi dispatch nightmare | 19:37 | |
| if I remember correctly | |||
| gfldex | aye :) | ||
| That's why I was asking. I do like reading Rakudos source. But not all of it at once. :-> | 19:38 | ||
| lizmat | it could be well worth implementing a new implementation for 6.e, to allow for easy comparison | 19:39 | |
| gfldex | m: my @a = 1,2,3,4; @a.splice(1|2,1); say @a; | 19:40 | |
| camelia | [1 3] | ||
| gfldex | That is much nicer then: | ||
| m: my @a = 1,2,3,4; @a.[1,2]:delete; say @a; | |||
| camelia | [1 (Any) (Any) 4] | ||
| gfldex | m: my @a = 1,2,3,4; @a.[1,2]:delete; say @a.join(‘♥’); | 19:41 | |
| camelia | Use of uninitialized value of type Any in string context. Methods .^name, .raku, .gist, or .say can be used to stringify it to something meaningful. 1♥♥♥4 in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| gfldex | I wish SemiLists would be a real type, not a grammar level construct. | ||
| lizmat | if they could be a real type, they could be developed in module space :-) | 19:42 | |
| gfldex | And they could be used in subs. They are really useful and it's a shame they only work in subscripts. | 19:43 | |
| lizmat | my mind is more in rak territory atm, but if you could describe in more detail in a gist, that would be great :-) | 19:49 | |
| perhaps even a blog post ? | |||
| gfldex | The :sdelete/:but/splice(Junction)-thing is first on the blog-list. | 19:50 | |
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| Geth | rakudo: 90709d5334 | (Christian Bartolomäus)++ | t/02-rakudo/18-pseudostash.t [JVM] Un-todo now passing tests for pseudostash |
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